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Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011

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story here

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:07:57 2011, in response to Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011.

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So OBS was right! LOL

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:13:25 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:07:57 2011.

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I don't remember what he said. I just know that people down here have no respect for walkers. Sometimes I drive to the St. Pete Times Forum and walk a big chunk of the length of the TECO Car or around the Convention Center.

One thing I miss about Queens is the walkability. That's one reason why I'm moving back next year.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:31:13 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:13:25 2011.

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Walking is good. We do a helluva it around here too. But ya gotta watch out for da bears. They don't say please and thank you. :)

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:37:39 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:31:13 2011.

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Here it's dogs that chase you. Idiots don't keep them on a leash. That's why I go downtown to walk around with the regular walkers and runners. But it's really hot here and most people join a gym to walk.

I check ny1 weather and cry over how nice the weather is in NY compared to here. I should spend Labor Day up north.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:38:30 2011, in response to Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011.

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wow...

The first four are in FloriDUH, Must be the water.

Figures NYC is not in the top ten, we know how to jaywalk.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:40:35 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:37:39 2011.

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Indeed! Telethon's coming too ... no better time to be in New York. :)

Dogs ... LOL. Maybe it's just my magnanimous personality, but dogs either ignore me or run like hell. Dogs. LOL.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:41:35 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:38:30 2011.

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Yeah, well the chances of any car getting up to ramming speed in the city is pretty freaking nil ... :)

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:41:36 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:13:25 2011.

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>>>>That's one reason why I'm moving back next year.<<<

Please don't. We're full up with racist fucktards.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:43:07 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:40:35 2011.

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WOOF.....moo...WOOF

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:43:20 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:41:36 2011.

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. We're full up with racist fucktards.

no wonder you like it up there so much. you fit right in.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:43:23 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:40:35 2011.

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WOOF.....moo...WOOF

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:45:02 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:38:30 2011.

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We don't drink the water down here.



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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:45:40 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:37:39 2011.

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>>>>I should spend Labor Day up north. <<<


PLEASE.....stay the fuck away. But, of course, we all know you never left. "Cause you're full of shit......LOL



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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:46:15 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:43:20 2011.

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lame lame

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:46:42 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:41:36 2011.

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Please don't. We're full up with racist fucktards.



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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:50:23 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:43:07 2011.

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And not necessarily in that order. :)

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:53:13 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:45:40 2011.

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I'm going to shop at Macy's to buy Burberry Brit.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 05:00:48 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 19 04:41:35 2011.

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true 'dat

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 05:03:13 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:45:02 2011.

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Hoe would you know? You are, and have always been, In QUEENS.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 05:07:15 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:53:13 2011.

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Have a good time. BTW how is this relevant???? Oh never mind. . , I forgot I was talk to "Mr Deflection"

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 05:10:53 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 05:03:13 2011.

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I wish. I'd have Rosa's Pizza on 69th in Maspeth if I was in Queens. I always did that when in Queens.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 06:52:15 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:13:25 2011.

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Are you going to come back by plane?

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 06:53:12 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:38:30 2011.

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And most of the rest are in places that are far too hot to live.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 19 08:47:52 2011, in response to Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011.

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The Times had a more detailed article. Along with lack of driver respect, one big problem in Orlando is that bus stops can be halfway between two lights. So people cross there. If they just moved the stops to the traffic lights they'd remove a major temptation.



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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Aug 19 10:36:09 2011, in response to Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011.

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Interesting.....NYC is no where to be found on the list. I'm suprised considering some of the city streets have been sited in the pass as being dangerous, like Queens Blvd in Queens.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by AlM on Fri Aug 19 10:51:40 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by streetcarman1 on Fri Aug 19 10:36:09 2011.

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NYC is near the very bottom (about #54) of the list of metro areas of over 1 million.

NYC has a few dangerous roads. Orlando is a whole Metro area made of of Queens Blvds, but with higher speeds and fewer lights.


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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 10:58:33 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 19 08:47:52 2011.

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It's not even as simple as that. The distance between lights in many sunbelt cities, especially in Florida, can be a mile or more apart. It's sometimes setup so that you either have to walk miles to cross the street, take your life in your hands by crossing with cars traveling 50+ mph that do not stop or slow down for pedestrians, or drive across the street.

I've mentioned before that I once stayed in a hotel in Tampa that was across the street from a restaurant. The intersection was controlled, but they had neglected to install crosswalks or pedestrian signals. In order to cross I had to wait for the green for cars which was not only not long enough for pedestrians, but the cars did not stop and were turning in front and behind me while I was in the intersection. It was pretty scary. At another hotel in Pasco County I was at a hotel on a very busy street with lots of businesses without a car and there was literally nowehere to safely cross for miles in either direction. It's just insane. They really discourage pedestrians.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 12:06:33 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 06:52:15 2011.

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lol

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 14:40:28 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by AlM on Fri Aug 19 08:47:52 2011.

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To be honest with you, I would cross between lights if I had to cross. It's actually safer. At least it is in Tampa. Orlando might be a little different.



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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:13:43 2011, in response to Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 03:54:45 2011.

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hmmmmmm....... nowhere in california

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 15:16:41 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:13:43 2011.

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Riverside/San Bernardino made the list.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:52:55 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 15:16:41 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 15:55:07 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 15:16:41 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:59:18 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 15:55:07 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 16:04:48 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:59:18 2011.

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You thought it meant Riverside, AL.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 16:25:19 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 16:04:48 2011.

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oh no ! lol

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:55:49 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:13:43 2011.

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lol

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:56:16 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:13:43 2011.

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lol

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:56:59 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 15:55:07 2011.

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fer shere

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:57:04 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Aug 19 15:55:07 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:57:39 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 15:59:18 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 19 17:42:00 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 04:13:25 2011.

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I used to do parts of that too, Clearwater Beach is good for a walk if you're not all that far away. But in August and September...eh.

We miss walking in Minneapolis for the reasons you cited. I fully agree with you. I had wondered if Miami is easier in general, although like the other places you have to drive to walk.

There's really a combination of issues that make it all unwalkable, there isn't a silver bullet. Ever since they invented the commute things have moved this way. And then the immigration from NY and Latin America, and the icky design of society.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by orange blossom special on Fri Aug 19 17:44:29 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 10:58:33 2011.

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But to stop at a red light you're about a half mile to a mile away in Orlando, so it all works out!

Not like anyone donates any shelters, it's a ditch with a sign on the side of a highway.
Do you remember what part of Pasco County? I guess you would've probably been on US19. It's better in most of Pasco than the county south of it, I don't even like driving on that.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 19 17:47:04 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 10:58:33 2011.

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I think you were on SR 60 known as Adamo Drive or Brandon Blvd. It's dangerous for pedestrians.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 17:54:40 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:57:39 2011.

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wtf

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 18:21:43 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:57:04 2011.

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 18:22:06 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by subwaysurf on Fri Aug 19 16:56:59 2011.

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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Aug 19 21:02:31 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Aug 19 16:25:19 2011.

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LOL!


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Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians

Posted by Easy on Fri Aug 19 21:51:05 2011, in response to Re: Most Dangerous Cities For Pedestrians, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 19 04:38:30 2011.

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we know how to jaywalk

You got that right. I felt like I was the only one waiting on the pedestrian signals. Plus one huge thing that you have that makes it safer for pedestrians is no right on red. That is a pedestrian unfriendly law and shouldn't be as widespread as it is now. Many of our pedestrian accidents out here involve people making a right on red.

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