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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:30:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:24:35 2011. more to it than that..hes poison..there are folks here AGREEING with his poison..meaning either they ALWAYS had those thoughts..or his crap is spreading. He's dangerous according to his message..his message [though he might deny it]plainly states his hatred. It needs to be stopped.. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:33:59 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:23:38 2011. I don't know what you mean by "brain capacity." |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:35:14 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:30:47 2011. Yes, fact-based analysis should be abandoned in favor of touchy-feely crap that makes you feel good. That and superstition.You and people like you (especially you), make me and other rational people sick. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:35:26 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:30:11 2011. Thats what i would like to know... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:36:34 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:30:11 2011. Yeah, I heard that there is none (at least within a species). |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:38:10 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 5 10:46:56 2011. Yes. IQ, particularly g, represents one's capacity for and ease of learning.That being said, as I noted, even with different levels of g, different races specialize in different things, like the better short term memory and higher creativity of blacks or the better spatial reasoning of the Inuit. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:38:43 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:35:14 2011. Yes, fact-based analysis should be abandoned in favor of touchy-feely crap that makes you feel good. That and superstition.I cant wait to see the white people have larger brains than black people one... That statement alone can feed a few fragile egos... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:38:57 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:35:14 2011. you can eat a dick,bitch.There nothing "rational " about it. Perhaps it appeals to you so much due to the fact he saying something that You always wanted to say.. So FUCK it..lets get it out in the open.. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:44:45 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 10:52:40 2011. Intelligence is what we're talking about here, no? One's knowledge compared to others his age, while clearly impacted by environmental factors like exposure to education, is nonetheless correlated with one's IQ. The more g-loaded tests do not measure knowledge as much as pure abstract reasoning, such as the Raven's Progressive Matrices. In fact, as you'll see in the evidence I've posted for you, the more g-loaded the tests items are, the worse blacks do. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:48:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 10:55:30 2011. Great..im all in this on..AND I DONT NEED BULLSHIT CHARTS "to prove how right I am.."Have you even looked at my "bullshit charts"? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:49:19 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:38:43 2011. Fact based bullshit can kiss my ass..The FACT is ..they want to WAR over it..on the net.. with WHO CAN COMPOSE THE BEST POST BULLSHIT. Son..if EITHER of them were here..I'd whip their asses WHILE explaining to them the ERROR of their ways. Point here is..these dick heads NEED THIS RIGHT NOW. they ARE at a low point emotionally.. They NEED TO FEEL good about themselves.. It doesnt matter if its bullshit..all that matters to them is that its out there..for everyone to read..so they can add their spin to it. Morris..Brian..JAYMAN and the others..NEED this more than we do. Its fine..sometimes you gotta let your bitches run free..till they get their fill of HOE'IN..THEN you reel em back in...before you "recondition dat ass".. Thats the case here..you lets these bitches run free for a bit..then you PIMP SLAP THE HELL OUT OF EM. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:51:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 11:26:25 2011. g has basically nothing to do with learned knowledge. IQ tests that measure knowledge (say vocabulary) are valid because one's vocabulary is correlated with g (i.e., smarter people are apt to learn more), but no, it's not a pure measurement like say the non-verbal tests. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:53:15 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:49:19 2011. I just find it Interesting and deep but on that note one has to leave now, Needs Of The Service...Hopefully that question i posed to JayMan will be answered by him. Take it easy Edwards... |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:53:48 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 11:40:17 2011. It is shocking isn't it? Some of us can't help but succumb to facts. Damn it! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:55:16 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:53:15 2011. It is neither interesting nor "deep." Edwards! is shallower than a kiddie pool. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:56:38 2011, in response to Throwing Pearls at Swine (was: Re: Why Does Everything Suck?), posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 11:49:58 2011. He cited some posts and links from a month ago and I refused to get roped into this seemingly racist rant.Do facts get stale (some information does, but I didn't think everything came with an expiration date, much less one less than a month)? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:57:24 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:53:48 2011. Good post. "People" like Edwards! can do no better than to call people dicks or post other base insults. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:59:38 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:53:48 2011. What fact?I dont see any facts..all I've seen was MORE CRAP you posted spouting the same crap YOUR SAYING.. DOESNT mean its CORRECT..doesnt mean a damned thing but state that there are OTHER IDIOTS OUT THERE[like HERE] that feel the exact same way YOU do.. Does THAT make YOU correct? HELL no.. IT MEAN THAT THERE ARE A GROUP OF IDIOTS THAT BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE. Got ME..? So ..Your FACTS are as good as the toilet paper it was written on. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 14:01:33 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:57:24 2011. COOL!I've YET to insult either of you. But I AM just getting warmed up.. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 14:04:11 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:55:16 2011. SO was your mother womb..which is how you hit your head when you feel out of her. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:20:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:14:52 2011. FUCK THAT.I CAN ACCEPT..AND EVEN CHALLEGE IN A DEBATE..SOUND TRUTH.. OK. Where are your counter facts (or at least, errors in evidence I've posted)? |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:24:38 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 13:25:50 2011. >>>>White people do have larger brains than blacks, on average.Help me out here where did you get this from? Here: http://www.vdare.com/rushton/100125_nisbett.htm. I have Rushton's and Jensen's paper with charts summarizing the data if you'd like to see it. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:25:27 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 13:30:11 2011. When corrected for body size, about .40. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Apr 5 14:25:45 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:44:40 2011. Uh, what? At least explain HOW he's wrong.And no, i'm right. I know people who break the mold of what people think their capable of, including my family. So I don't throw people in a box or statistic, simply because everyone's unpredictable. "More than meets the eye" has a bigger meaning than Transformers. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:31:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:59:38 2011. What fact?I dont see any facts..all I've seen was MORE CRAP you posted spouting the same crap YOUR SAYING.. Here: THIRTY YEARS OF RESEARCH ON RACE DIFFERENCES IN COGNITIVE ABILITY. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:51:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:43:14 2011. Didn't the Portuguese & Arabic also used to go to Southern Africa to trade with the tribes there before the American slave trade?As I said, a few civilizations did develop in sub-Saharan Africa on their own. One was the the Nok culture of West Africa. But even the Southern African empires like Zimbabwe developed due to contact from Middle Easterners. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:04:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:33:59 2011. I originally said that JayMan hasn't proved that black people don't have the brain capacity to learn as many things as white people. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:07:01 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 13:49:19 2011. Actually, I agree. I'm not sure about the intentions of Spider-Pig or Terrapin Station, but JayMan seems like he's hellbent on smearing black people, mudslinging useless statistics like the average brain size between races. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:09:01 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:25:27 2011. Post proof with a link to the original source. I want to see where you pull these statistics from. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:10:26 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:38:10 2011. No, IQ tests do not assess all mental abilities, only certain ones that are apparently most important for success in life. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:12:27 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 13:44:45 2011. while clearly impacted by environmental factors like exposure to educationThat's what I was saying all along, why did it take you so long to admit that? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 15:12:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:20:08 2011. My counter is YOU..everything your done here to cause division,in the name of "science" and "facts" has brought out the worst in ALL..I refuse to play YOUR GAME..[thats what it is,isnt it/] What ever division that lingered here under the surface..has boiled over NOW TO THE SURFACE.. was THAT your intention? To bring out the worst in all..with your "truths" that only you and a few others support? You cant6 even prove anything youve presented..other than bias reports reports slanted in your favor.. If your black..I feel sorry for you.. If your WHITE..then I feel EXTRA sorry for you..since you've rallied the assholes to formation. Feel free to carry on..but know that im gonna treat THIS thread like I would any other that I feel is SPAWNED FROM HELL.. You WILL be dealt with. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:14:36 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:02:23 2011. Uh, no. LOL. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:14:57 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:04:28 2011. Per Merriam-Webster online:"a score determined by one's performance on a standardized intelligence test relative to the average performance of others of the same age " |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 15:15:45 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:10:26 2011. Success in life depends on one's environment. That's the whole reason cognitive differences evolved in different races; each developed the traits they needed to survive and thrive in their environment. There is no question that g, while not capturing every last mental ability, measures overall cognitive power, and as you leave Africa and go to points north there has certainly been a trend towards and increase in g.As my previous post shows, it's not like I have not been forthcoming with the range of mental abilities. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:16:02 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:10:58 2011. No I don't. I said nothing wrong. I have no idea what point you are trying to make in this post. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:16:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 12:15:53 2011. I already addressed that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:16:35 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:20:35 2011. You'd be wrong then. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:16:36 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:28:41 2011. How? I don't know if you're referring to earlier threads but Railman718 has contributed to the discussion. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 15:17:41 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:12:27 2011. Reread my post. It would be helpful to respond not to one statement of mine so blatantly out of context. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 15:19:22 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 15:12:50 2011. In other words, despite your earlier claim to the contrary, you refuse to debate rationally. That's all you needed to say, you should have just said so earlier. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:19:50 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 12:34:09 2011. No he's not. He's one of the nicest, most reasonable, and most intelligent people here, based on his postings. He deserves none of what you said in that post or what you just said in the above post. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:20:17 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 15:15:45 2011. There is no question that g, while not capturing every last mental ability, measures overall cognitive power, and as you leave Africa and go to points north there has certainly been a trend towards and increase in g.According to what? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:20:25 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 12:28:41 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 15:20:59 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 14:31:47 2011. And what exactly is that suppose to tell me..?That there are OTHERS out there that believe the same crap YOU DO? Using so called SCIENCE to back up there statements..must mean there is truth to it...right? All that tells ME..is YOU need it to "prove" your lame assed explanations..to validate YOURSELF.. No matter what crap you post..the ONLY LOGICAL OUTCOME to this is to see YOU FAIL..at all costs. I don't need "VALIDATION",son. I have something YOU dont..and you'll never figure out WHAT it is until you free your mind. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:21:38 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:14:57 2011. Yeah, that is NOT what you previously claimed! LOL! |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:22:31 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Easy on Tue Apr 5 13:11:46 2011. You talk to me condescendingly all the time, like the Camden thread. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:23:11 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 13:20:36 2011. IAWTP |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:24:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 15:17:41 2011. I understood your post perfectly, and the quote was just about the only part of the post relevant to my original post that sparked the debate. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 15:24:48 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 15:21:38 2011. Yes it was. |
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