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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 00:50:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Apr 4 20:10:35 2011. well..stop looking at WHATS WRONG with our youth..and focus on what could be done to improve their lot.."IT AINT WHERE YOU FROM..ITS WHERE YOUR AT" |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 5 01:03:17 2011, in response to Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Apr 3 03:59:53 2011. Because no one swallows./poor taste joke |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:03:40 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 4 23:01:21 2011. BULLSHIT COP OUT.It what goes IN THE MAN THAT MAKES HIM WICKED... You can't lead a horse to drink..nor can you make a bird fly. If you have a group of economically depressed people..racially oppressed from day one..products of your surroundings..then you get what you mold. Give a kid a good home..with the proper diet..plenty of sleep..a correct MORAL CODE WORK ETHIC..an EDUCATION..and you will get a STRONG ADULT with a strong sense of pride in him/her self to build a life accordingly. Feed them bullshit..let them "hang out" with the wrong crowd..get involved with "street life"..not be a focus in their lives[no education]..then you will get that deviant we hear about on the news..or see in the streets.. This "brain power" crap you talking, is only as good as the sidewalk poop you use to pick it up with. so sell it to the other damned idiots that would believe it..not here. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:04:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 4 23:13:00 2011. Kiss my ass with this foolishness. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 01:07:28 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 00:08:22 2011. I would dare venture that poor whites (in general) are less smart than poor blacks (in general).Whites live in a country that has always catered to them and put them ahead of other races in terms of opportunity, promotions and connections. Even when of similar socio-economic backgrounds, a white has tremendously more advantages than a Black. If a white person from a normal background lives his life out in poverty (health, disability or some other unfortunate incident notwithstanding) there is something terribly wrong with him/her. They are either dumb, lazy or both. There is no excuse for an able-bodied White to blame something or anybody other than him/herself for poverty, especially when new immigrants of all sorts of races from all over the world seize the opportunities that this country continues to offer. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:10:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 00:22:21 2011. Right...What hes trying to say..is whites are smarter than blacks..,and those with JEWISH backgrounds are SMARTER than the mainstream whites...doesn't matter what the cause of their disadvantage is..its a "proven" fact..even though this nonsense has been shown top be utter bile sent straight from hell by a group who needed to feel good about them selves. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:14:23 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Apr 4 20:10:35 2011. PORK CHOPS AND KOOLAIDE?No wonder your whining like a little bitch. Look at the crap your putting in your body? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:15:20 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 00:17:23 2011. Bite me with this crap. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Apr 5 01:20:37 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:03:40 2011. Can't argue with ya Edwards....can't argue at all.Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:21:09 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:03:40 2011. If you have a group of economically depressed people..racially oppressed from day one..products of your surroundings..then you get what you mold.Maybe you should ask the Jewish and E. Asian immigrants that came over here about how after the vast discrimination they endured things turned out for them? Give a kid a good home..with the proper diet..plenty of sleep..a correct MORAL CODE WORK ETHIC..an EDUCATION..and you will get a STRONG ADULT with a strong sense of pride in him/her self to build a life accordingly. Trading Places anyone? Twin and adoption studies would beg to differ with you. Feed them bullshit..let them "hang out" with the wrong crowd..get involved with "street life"..not be a focus in their lives[no education]..then you will get that deviant we hear about on the news..or see in the streets.. Yes, peer culture does matter—to an extent. So does nutrition, to the extent that it impacts brain development. But there is no question about the underlying importance of IQ when it comes to success. This "brain power" crap you talking, is only as good as the sidewalk poop you use to pick it up with. so sell it to the other damned idiots that would believe it..not here. Isn't it ironic that you are talking about "brain power"? |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:25:02 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:10:47 2011. What hes trying to say..is whites are smarter than blacks..,and those with JEWISH backgrounds are SMARTER than the mainstream whitesYes, on average, that is what I am saying. its a "proven" fact. As far is it is demonstrated by the population it is. What has been disputed is the cause. Evidence strongly indicates that a significant cause is heredity. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:30:43 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:15:20 2011. Edwards its not racist its just shows what some of them think and they feel in their hearts that they are right, so be it..Rather have a devil tell me hes a devil than tell me he is an angel and hes not. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 01:35:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:30:43 2011. I think Jayman is African-American. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:49:08 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 01:35:08 2011. I definitely fit in the colored category. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:01 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:49:08 2011. Your race is irrevelant to your views.See? Its already assumed that i was bringing that into it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:52 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 01:35:08 2011. One race is irrelevant to ones thinking or views..I dont look at the world that way Dad taught me that. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:56:15 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:52 2011. *Ones |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 02:25:23 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:52 2011. Excellent post.your Dad is a good man. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 02:25:23 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 01:07:28 2011. Actually, probably not. Black children from families earning considerably more than white families score lower on tests. Also, the NAEP scores (a partial proxy for IQ) from the impoverished white states show even the worst average whites scores are better than most average black scores.It's important to remember that poverty isn't just a function of IQ, it's function of what's available. Though I suspect that the Scotch-Irish of Appalachia and their descendants in the South have lower IQ's than other white Americans (considering the average IQ of Scotland and Ireland is about 93), that's likely not enough to explain the abject poverty found in places like West Virginia, Kentucky or Tennessee. The destruction of the coal industry, which is the economic base for these places, also is at play. If one reads Malcolm Gladwell's Outliers (ignoring his attempt to marginalize IQ, talent, and race differences in such) success is a function of opportunity and luck as well as talent and temperament. A poor white person, especially one coming from somewhere that is historically poor, may be cut off from opportunities to advance. |
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Posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 02:27:44 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:01 2011. Then what are you trying to say?I would assume by now most people would gather that my views are based on facts. Sometimes the facts are uncomfortable, but they are the facts nonetheless. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 02:36:09 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 4 23:19:06 2011. Besides, I don't know much about golf, but isn't Woods somewhat of the Jackie Robinson of golf?hardly. Woods wasn't spit upon and threatened when he took to the links. He didn't have teammates not wanting to play with him and adversaries spiking him. he didn't have to sleep in separate hotels and eat at different restaurants than his colleagues. He cashed in on his talent instead of using it for a greater good like Robinson did. Robinson was everything that is good in this world. Tiger Woods is everything that is wrong with this world. I never liked him from Day One. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 02:37:55 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Apr 4 23:26:18 2011. Same for many whites.Look at redneck culture. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 02:53:11 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Apr 5 01:03:17 2011. Because no one swallows.Only good girls don't swallow. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 03:02:10 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 02:25:23 2011. A poor white person, especially one coming from somewhere that is historically poor, may be cut off from opportunities to advance.A poor white person from WV or KY with an IQ of 100 and a HS diploma who moves to a generic US city with greater opportunities has a considerably higher likelihood of upward social mobility than a black person with the same IQ and education. This is because of continuing latent discrimination in America. White skin is a very positive and tangible asset in this country. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 5 04:49:49 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 00:17:23 2011. While I don't agree with your assessment that "Whites are more intelligent than Blacks, I do agree with one fact though. That intelligent people reproduce much less than unintelligent people, at least in current times. Responsible, intelligent people have less kids, as they are responsible in what they can afford to have, etc.But that goes for intelligent whites AND intelligent blacks. Unintelligent whites as well as unintelligent blacks reproduce more, thus their gene pool becomes more prevalent over time. |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Apr 5 05:11:53 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:03:40 2011. IAWTP 110%! Just because a rich kid can afford a high-class education, doesn't mean they'll USE it. Likewise, a poor kid with little education or resources, can SOAR above the competition. Plus, I find you need TWO educations in this world: School education, and LIFE (or street) education.There's more to people than sticking a percentage on them. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 06:39:22 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Apr 5 04:49:49 2011. about reproduction, I know I read a story recently about upper middle class and upper class couples marrying and reproducing while many middle to lower middle class people weren't marrying and weren't having kids like they were in the past. makes sense.I look at myself and many of my middle class friends from my middle class Queens neighborhood, and so many aren't married with kids. It's too expensive, women are too picky, and why leave home when you can live in your parents $500,000 brick two-family in Queens, troll the net, play video games, and hook up with old flames on Facebook. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:42:33 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:25:02 2011. pwn3d |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:43:01 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by SMAZ on Tue Apr 5 01:07:28 2011. Not such a smart post.... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:43:38 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by jimmymc25 on Tue Apr 5 01:20:37 2011. Yes you can. He's almost always wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:44:10 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:21:09 2011. LOL!!!! pwn3d!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:44:40 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by EastSideRider on Tue Apr 5 05:11:53 2011. Well he's wrong and therefor so are you :(Here's a tip: Edwards is usually wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:45:42 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Mon Apr 4 23:13:00 2011. pwn3d |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:47:37 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:01 2011. Oh please. Quit with the bullshit excuses. You're wrong and you know it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:48:31 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 02:27:44 2011. Yes. Notice which people on this forum are denying your facts. It is a pretty good indication of who lacks intelligence. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:49:19 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 01:55:52 2011. These are facts. They are not "a way of looking at the world." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 06:56:33 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:45:42 2011. how am I pwned? "So many Jews are doctors"? Really? Reread his statement.He's wrong if he says, "So many Jews are doctors", and he's wrong if he comes back with "So many doctors are Jews". |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:59:54 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 06:56:33 2011. You're pwn3d because you are wrong and he corrected you. That's generally how it works. And that's generally how it goes with you. You are rarely if ever correct. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 07:03:00 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:59:54 2011. first of all, I am rarely, if ever, wrong. secondly, he did not correct me. he just came out with some stats about Ashkenazi Jews. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 07:09:47 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 5 07:03:00 2011. No, you are rare, if ever, correct. Second of all, he pwn3d you fair and square. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 07:20:21 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Apr 4 20:29:59 2011. I get the point exactly. I am mocking the point.Athletes and popular musicians are more successful than physicians and lawyers. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 07:20:42 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 5 07:20:21 2011. Most of them, I mean. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 08:42:01 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 02:27:44 2011. Then what are you trying to say?All im saying is i dont agree with your Views One bit, But i do respect the fact that you will speak them and stand by them. Should have made that clear in another post as well thats on me. I would assume by now most people would gather that my views are based on facts. Sometimes the facts are uncomfortable, but they are the facts nonetheless. It looks like that from what im seeing, still people dont have to agree with them or even like them as you said. Still speaking ones mind and staying what you feel beats playing word/mind games and trying to hide what you feel. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 08:43:24 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Apr 5 06:49:19 2011. What my Dad said>ANYTHING that comes out of your mouth period. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:07:54 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 00:21:11 2011. Ok, but you're post also suggests that white people have a higher brain capacity than black people without necessarily evaluating the education or home background of each subject involved with the study it seems like. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 09:28:22 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:07:54 2011. No i think that is also stated someplace as well ,seen it.Not sure if its this thread. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:29:44 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 01:25:02 2011. Evidence strongly indicates that a significant cause is heredity.If your evidence is the studies you've already posted in this thread then not really, they just prove that black people have lower IQ's than white people, not necessarily a lower brain capacity. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Apr 5 09:33:29 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:29:44 2011. Good Point. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Apr 5 09:43:04 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 5 01:10:47 2011. Actually, it's all about him. I think wants to demonstrate that he's the exception that proves the rule. Talk about ego gone wild. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Apr 5 09:43:14 2011, in response to Re: Why Does Everything Suck?, posted by JayMan on Tue Apr 5 00:17:23 2011. They were, and for a time they were more organized than the European civilizations. But with perhaps the exception of Zimbabwe and a few other societies in West and Southern Africa, all the black African civilizations developed with contact from the outside—via the Arabs and the brown people of the Ghana Empire in the case of the West African Empires and via Egypt and Yemen (i.e., brown countries) in the case of Ethiopia.Didn't the Portuguese & Arabic also used to go to Southern Africa to trade with the tribes there before the American slave trade? I wouldn't say its an education issue—it's a breeding issue. In all races higher IQ individuals reproduce less (thanks today mostly to birth control). This is actually causing us to get dumber with time. Reversing that trend would require successful people to alter their behavior when it comes to having families, and I'm not sure how you can do that. Unless you can prove that blacks do in fact have a lower brain capacity than whites, then it really does seem like an education issue. There's no saying whether increased educational opportunity will give these lower IQ offspring (at birth) the same mental abilities as whites supposedly born with higher brain capacity. |
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