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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sun Jul 18 04:53:56 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 04:47:04 2010.

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Agreed.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 04:54:08 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 04:51:23 2010.

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I don't know about that, but I don't support hate crimes. Crime is crime. I don't think that we need to try and figure out what people were thinking and punish them extra for wrong thinking.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 04:55:49 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 04:53:09 2010.

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It wasn't but I understand what you mean. Had the races been reversed it would likely have been presumed to be a hate crime by the media. I can see that.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 05:01:00 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 04:55:49 2010.

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The thing about the Eve Carson case, or just about ANY black on white crime, is that even if the black says something like "Give me your money white bitch", it still won't be prosecuted as such.

Colin Ferguson on the LIRR would be such an example.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 05:03:42 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 05:01:00 2010.

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You don't think that Colin Ferguson would have been prosecuted as a hate crime had such laws existed then? I would hope so.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 05:06:34 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 05:03:42 2010.

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Never. He even used a "black rage" defense.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 05:17:27 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 05:06:34 2010.

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Black on white hate crime


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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jul 18 05:58:46 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 05:06:34 2010.

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Actually, Colin Ferguson's case would have qualified for hate-crime status if there had been such a law on the books then. Ferguson not only used a "black rage" defense, but his writings about why he did the shootings clearly stated he was out to get white people. He even waited until the train was in Nassau County, "out of respect for [then] Mayor Dinkins."

I do think Ferguson was seriously touched in the head, but anyone who randomly shoots strangers for twisted reasons is pretty bent to begin with...

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 06:57:36 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 17 21:46:17 2010.

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Another idiot twisting words to mean something totally remote from what was actually meant.

You lost your argument right there. I have never insulted you.

You are now just another conservative caricature. You are Train Dude.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:00:25 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 03:42:29 2010.

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They are all being unmasked. This last week has been an exposing and cleansing session on OTChat.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 07:12:31 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jul 17 21:46:17 2010.

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There is nothing wrong with saying Hispanic culture, or Latino. Don't let the trolls get to you.

Pizza Patron makes constant references to each

I guess sites like Hispanicprwire.com need to be educated as well.



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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:15:19 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 06:57:36 2010.

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Whatever dude, and you are just another Liberal caricature now.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:17:12 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 03:33:36 2010.

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It wasn't angry at all. Astonishment is not anger.
They were Mexicans, and Mexicans is not a racial slur, and there's nothing wrong with being Mexican.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:43:40 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 04:47:04 2010.

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That's true. But there's a reason for that. We all need to find a way to move beyond that.


Considering that there are people whose main goal is to spread racial disharmony to hide the failures of their bankrupt conservative ideology, we are still a bit aways from that. Such people are active on this very board.

Until that day arrives we must expose them for the BITCHASSES that they are.

In my view, racial harmony will come when everybody looks like Barack Obama, Halle Berry, Derek Jeter and you.

It should be the duty of every American to reproduce across racial lines.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:58:26 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:43:40 2010.

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Yes, translation: When we get rid of white people, there will be racial harmony. Great post!


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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 08:35:25 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:58:26 2010.

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Yes, translation: When we get rid of white people, there will be racial harmony. Great post!

Your response reveals your belief in the "one drop" rule since what I posted would extinguish both Whites AND Blacks in America.



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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 09:26:18 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 08:35:25 2010.

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Oh, so you are one of those that haven't fallen for the "our first black president" crap, remembering that he's probably more British and Irish than I am.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 18 13:02:33 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 05:03:42 2010.

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Here's another example of why hate crime laws are useless. Ferguson was sentenced to an effective life sentence. What purpose would have been achieved by making it a hate crime?

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 18 13:05:58 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 04:51:23 2010.

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Absolutely true. If a white person went to St. Albans to break into cars and was beaten up by a local black resident, the white person would be prosecuted for a hate crime.

Fat Nick was also done in by being from Howard Beach, which automatically branded him a racist.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Jul 18 13:35:36 2010, in response to BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Jul 17 21:31:00 2010.

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How is this a hate crime? Looks like the average hood robbery to me lol. The guys that do this type of stuff will rob anybody that looks like an easy target, they will not single out one type of race when doing these crimes. I've heard stories of all races getting robbed in the various hoods of Brooklyn (Crown Heights, Flatbush, East Flatbush, ENY, Brownsville>>(I've heard so many stories about people getting robbed in the ville its not even funny lol), Red hook* etc).


* In the Red Hook Projects, they will beat up/rob anybody that doesn't live there! A teen used to always tell us this, even the girls lol, dude was telling a story about he went back to RH (He moved to ENY) his girl left him for a few minutes to buy Ice Cream from the Ice Cream truck next thing you know girls was about to jump her...

Def not an hate crime....


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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 13:39:10 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 18 13:02:33 2010.

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What if instead of mass murder he would just be knocking out people.

The point of hate crimes is not to add punishment to the most egregious crimes (which already carry long sentences including death) but to add them to the more minor (yet common) ones like assault and battery.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 18 14:28:38 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 13:39:10 2010.

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That's the problem. They shouldn't add to the sentence because of one's beliefs.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 15:05:52 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 13:39:10 2010.

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Unfortunately that's not the purpose. The purpose is to add extra punishment because of why the crime was committed, not because of the crime itself. We should punish the crime, not the "why".

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Jul 18 15:14:11 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:43:40 2010.

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How about instead everyone actually act like responsible adults and learn to treat others how you'd like to be treated? Even as a mixed race person, I can't say that's going to cure everything. Brazil is Uber-Mixed and they still have "Colorism" and all sorts of wack social shit w/ regards to class/race.

I will say that if most girls looked like Halle Berry then it would be a better world in at least one aspect. :O)

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Easy on Sun Jul 18 15:20:52 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Jul 18 15:14:11 2010.

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lol

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:58:04 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:17:12 2010.

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They were Mexicans, and Mexicans is not a racial slur, and there's nothing wrong with being Mexican.

Lol. Nope, try again.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:59:43 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 07:15:19 2010.

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The ignorance you have is a damn shame, especially you don't seem like a bad person aside from it.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Jul 18 17:48:38 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:43:40 2010.

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Your post will rank with the all time most racist and idiotic posts on OTChat. It's so blatantly idiotic, I don't know where to start except to say you now rank up there with edwards, osmosis and streetcarman..

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 17:49:24 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:58:04 2010.

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Oh okay, so you are saying there is something wrong with being Mexican. Okay.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Jul 18 17:51:11 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:58:04 2010.

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What's wrong with being Mexican other than you not liking them?

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 17:52:24 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 17:49:24 2010.

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Who's the one that twists words again? Lol...

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 17:52:55 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Jul 18 17:48:38 2010.

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I don't know where to start except to say you now rank up there with edwards, osmosis and streetcarman..

Aw how cute, you think your opinion matters on this board.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 18 17:58:23 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Jul 18 17:48:38 2010.

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I'm surprised he's not over in Italy, joining the "vigilante" groups that like to intimidate the gypsies.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 18:08:08 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 17:52:24 2010.

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Just doing what you have done. I said there's nothing wrong with being Mexican, and you said "Nope, wrong", what else am I supposed to believe?

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 18:13:02 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 18:08:08 2010.

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Nah, there is nothing wrong with being Mexican and I wasn't saying "Nope" to that. I was saying "Nope" to your claim that all of the people in those photos came from Mexico. Keep the excuses coming...

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:24:12 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:59:43 2010.

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The ignorance you have is a damn shame, especially you don't seem like a bad person aside from it.


That's what happens when people run around with a bad crowd.
They hurt their own reputation by doing things they wish they hadn't done.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Jul 18 18:29:32 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Jul 18 15:14:11 2010.

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Oh what fun is that? The ugly girls make you appreciate the hot girls all the more. :)

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 18:30:49 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 16:59:43 2010.

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You have humiliated yourself over the Mexican vs. Latino vs. Hispanic.

Here's an article from NEWSDAY, a liberal Long Island newspaper, where even the Mexican government acknowledges that this is largely a Mexican problem with day laborers, so GP38 was not bigoted in his use of the word.

here you go, almight Osmosis Jones, voice of the Mexican community

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 18:45:58 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:24:12 2010.

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Yes "ruining" a reputation to you is anyone that doesn't agree with leftist politics.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:48:01 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 18:45:58 2010.

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Yes "ruining" a reputation to you is anyone that doesn't agree with leftist politics.


That's not why your reputation is ruined. It's because of statements like those above.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 18:53:27 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:48:01 2010.

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The "bad crowd" you mention are people who don't agree with you politically.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:54:13 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Jul 18 15:14:11 2010.

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Brazil is Uber-Mixed and they still have "Colorism" and all sorts of wack social shit w/ regards to class/race.

It's not mixed enough. It still has too many Whites and too many Blacks. People there have not yet broken their chains of racial identity.

I will say that if most girls looked like Halle Berry then it would be a better world in at least one aspect. :O)

That's my true hidden agenda ;->



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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:55:05 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jul 18 17:58:23 2010.

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You don't get updates on EU Observer?

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:59:52 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by TheCiskoKid on Sun Jul 18 17:48:38 2010.

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Instead of your spasmodic statement, why don't you break down what you find so distasteful about my post? Are you able to do that?

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 19:03:47 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 09:26:18 2010.

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Oh, so you are one of those that haven't fallen for the "our first black president" crap, remembering that he's probably more British and Irish than I am.


That's only because currently living generations are enslaved to the notions of racial identity as a defense mechanism.

My idea would make such notions quaint.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 19:08:22 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 07:43:40 2010.

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I wonder if it was offensive as you saying I "probably would be on the other side of Lincoln judging by your posts" somewhere yesterday. I can't find the post now, but that was a total insult, and totally uncalled for.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 19:09:16 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 19:03:47 2010.

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No, if it's right or wrong one way, it's right or wrong the other way too.

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 19:32:50 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Jul 18 18:30:49 2010.

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You have humiliated yourself over the Mexican vs. Latino vs. Hispanic.

Almost every post you make humiliates yourself...

Here's an article from NEWSDAY, a liberal Long Island newspaper, where even the Mexican government acknowledges that this is largely a Mexican problem with day laborers, so GP38 was not bigoted in his use of the word.

here you go, almight Osmosis Jones, voice of the Mexican community


Case in point. How does this prove GP38's assumption of everyone photographed in that post being Mexican correct?

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Re:NO BITCHASSNESS

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 18 19:34:19 2010, in response to Re:NO BITCHASSNESS, posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 18:24:12 2010.

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Sad, but true. At least he isn't a complete racist and irrational nutcase like Train Dude or LuchAAA... yet.

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Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Jul 18 19:35:14 2010, in response to Re: BITCHASSNESS Jones Ignores VIOLENT Hate Crime, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 18 19:09:16 2010.

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No, if it's right or wrong one way, it's right or wrong the other way too.

By what logic?


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