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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 09:59:03 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 10 09:38:21 2009.

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I certainly do. I want LuchAA to either admit he is or isn't in the NY area. If he isn't, he's just blowing smoke (which he usually does).

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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 10:02:28 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 09:59:03 2009.

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No you don't. He lives in the Tampa area and visits NYC often. A few subchatters have met him on his visits.

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Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 10:54:10 2009.

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IMO, areas of Nassau that don't look that great based on condition of housing and presence of people aimlessly hanging out:

Inwood; most of Hempstead Village; Uniondale; some of Glen Cove; pockets of Roslyn Heights, Port Washington and Oyster Bay hamlet; Lakeview; some of downtown RVC; north Baldwin; Freeport north of Atlantic Avenue; downtown Farmingdale; extreme southeast Massapequa.

Even Great Neck Village seems to have a small area of mild decay along Steamboat Road. There are projects along Community Drive on the Great Neck-Manhasset border that seem to have improved since the nineties.

Don't get out to Suffolk much anymore, but from what I've observed:

Large part of Huntington Station; small part of Greenlawn; North Amityville and, to a lesser extent, Amityville Village; the northern fringes of Copiague and inincorporated Lindenhurst; parts of West Babylon; Bay Shore above Montauk Highway; most of Brentwood and Central Islip; East and North Patchogue; some small areas of Port Jeff around the LIRR terminal; downtown Riverhead; Hampton Bays; sections of South and East Hampton; Greenport.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:09:18 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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-and most of the incorporated areas of Westbury east of the village and north of Old Country Road. The village itself seems to have gotten much better recently.

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Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:16:52 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by MJF on Tue Jul 21 06:24:43 2009.

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Yeah, you've described the Whitestone Pathmark perfectly. It's actually in Flushing, but that it's situated off the Whitestone Expressway has led to this misnomer. I've been shopping there for over 25 years. A lot of the Pathmarks in Nassau County make it look sick; particularly the one in East Meadow, which is absolutely gorgeous.

But the ones on Kissena Boulevard in Kew Garden Hills and Atlantic Avenue in Ozone Park are far worse.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 10:46:10 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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Large part of Huntington Station; small part of Greenlawn; North Amityville and, to a lesser extent, Amityville Village; the northern fringes of Copiague and inincorporated Lindenhurst; parts of West Babylon; Bay Shore above Montauk Highway; most of Brentwood and Central Islip; East and North Patchogue; some small areas of Port Jeff around the LIRR terminal; downtown Riverhead; Hampton Bays; sections of South and East Hampton; Greenport.

I'd delete North Patchogue and possibly Greenport, though I'm less familiar with the latter. Additions to the list include North Bellport, Gordon Heights, Coram east of Route 112, and parts of Mastic and Farmingville.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by BMT Guy on Mon Aug 10 11:15:25 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 10:46:10 2009.

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Greenport does indeed have a dingy area just north of their 'downtown' strip along Main Street, Rt. 25 ('downtown' in Greeport means the waterfront area adjacent to the LIRR station/Shelter Island ferry slip).

Once you get up to 25A you will see that the area becomes more upscale and scenic.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Aug 10 11:53:17 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:09:18 2009.

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That would include New Cassel.

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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 11:58:01 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 09:59:03 2009.

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I don't know if he's here now or not, but he was. Herecently met Rich Panse here, a very reputable poster here.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by d_mind on Mon Aug 10 12:36:28 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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Pretty soon you'll be able to add Valley Stream to that list. Don't forget Elmont either.

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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 10 12:36:55 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 09:59:03 2009.

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No, Dan Lawrence, as I wrote, and as two posters just confirmed, you don't know what you are talking about. Besides, it seems you also totally misunderstood the LuchAAA post you responded to.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Aug 10 12:45:19 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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Great Neck-Manhasset, pockets of Roslyn Heights, Port Washington and Oyster Bay hamlet;sections of South and East Hampton

Come on now. The hired help needs to live somewhere! :-)

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Re: F*n Westbury Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 12:49:27 2009, in response to F*n Westbury Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 9 21:05:53 2009.

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Isn't this right near New Cassel?

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Re: Fun Westbury Too? (Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 10 13:00:06 2009, in response to F*n Westbury Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Sun Aug 9 21:05:53 2009.

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Your abbreviation might make one think that this is fun.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Aug 10 13:13:07 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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and, to a lesser extent, Amityville Village;

Amityville Village isn't bad, North Amityville is a different story.

Bill Newkirk

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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 13:13:55 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 10 12:36:55 2009.

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Pick, pick, pick.

Aren't you supposed to be at work?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 14:16:55 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 10:46:10 2009.

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Agreed, there's nothing wrong with North Patchogue. Not any worse than let's say "Shirley" is. Also, while a part of East Patchogue, north of Montauk Highway that's pretty bad, that fits into the "North Bellport" part of Bellport. South of Montauk Highway, East Patchogue is really nice, especially the South Country Road area. The same with Bellport. The part that's bad is north of Montauk Highway in the case of both East Patchogue, and North Bellport. Both are CLASSIC right and wrong side of the railroad tracks communities.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 14:18:01 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by d_mind on Mon Aug 10 12:36:28 2009.

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Parts of Valley Stream have been bad for over 20-30 years, nothing new..... Isn't Elmont in Queens?

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Re: Fun Tampa Too? (Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 10 14:18:41 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Jeff Rosen on Sun Aug 9 21:24:37 2009.

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Why no comment?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 14:19:11 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Aug 10 13:13:07 2009.

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That's the same in the case off Bellport and Bellport Village. North Bellport is one of the worst areas in Suffolk County, yet Bellport Village is quite upscale, almost on par with the Hamptons.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Charles G on Mon Aug 10 14:38:03 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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I'd take Uniondale and North Baldwin off your list. The people are decidedly middle class (they're just not white) and the housing stock is isn't in any kind of rundown condition. Other than the skin color of the residents, Uniondale is basically no different than the northern half of a town like Oceanside. Downtown RVC is quite nice and is home to many new upscale condos. I think the part of RVC you're thinking of is the extreme western part -- Old Mill Court and environs.

I'd also take off Northwest Freeport (north of Sunrise, roughly west of Connecticut -- which is quite nice and also parts of Lakeview. Lakeview along Lakeview Avenue has quite a few characters hanging out, but as you go north up Woodfield Road things improve quite a bit.

In Suffolk, your list isn't complete until you add Wyandanch.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 15:30:48 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by d_mind on Mon Aug 10 12:36:28 2009.

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Oh yes, Elmont. Some of it is still quite nice- both sides of the Turnpike about a half mile west of Covert/Meacham; along most of Dutch and south. But one gets a very bad impression of it coming from Queens along the Turnpike; the area opposite the track looks quite dilapidated. The nominal downtown, at the intersection of the Turnpike and Elmont Road, looks quite bad.

Valley Stream village still seems very stable, except for the extreme western fringe along the city line.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 15:40:17 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Charles G on Mon Aug 10 14:38:03 2009.

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Adding Wyandanch would have offered overkill to this thread. But it certainly belongs there. A couple of winters ago I rode the LIRR through and noticed a great many vagrants sitting in front of, and in the waiting room. But then that's also a common site at the Freeport and Babylon LIRR stations as well.

When drives down Grand Avenue from the Southern State into Baldwin, a lot of previously vibrant shopping centers now contain vacancies, clinics and check-cashing stores. Never a good sign. Friends of mine who lived in the northeast got fed up with vandalism and single-family houses suddenly containing over 20 people. This was in the early nineties. A lot of locals say the downtown area along Grand between Sunrise and Merrick has gotten bad as well.

Uniondale probably gets a bad rap due to its being situated between Hempstead and Roosevelt. Unlike other 'blighted' communities, you don't see too many people hanging out on the main drags looking for work- or trouble. But there have been a number of highly publicized murders there.

The narrow corridor along the LIRR through RVC is said to be sketchy, with the recreational center on Long Beach Road supposedly frequented by gangs.

Oh, and supposedly the unincorporated part of Island Park, also known as Barnum Island- the part that Austin Boulevard runs through- has become haven to a lot of illegals 'priced out' of Long Beach. The village remains an Italian and Greek stronghold.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by d_mind on Mon Aug 10 18:04:47 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 14:18:01 2009.

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Nope, Elmont is in Nassau...which parts of VS do you think are bad. As a resident I'm curious.

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Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 10 18:07:03 2009, in response to Re: F*n Tampa Too!(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Aug 10 13:13:55 2009.

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I'm glad you're starting to accept the fact that you don't know what you are talking about, and that you misunderstood his post. But I see that's not stopping you from continuing to talk about that which you have no knowledge.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by charles g on Mon Aug 10 18:12:16 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 15:40:17 2009.

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I lived in RVC from 2000-2007 and never heard of gangs (or problems of any sort) at the Rec Center. Worst problem might be a couple of broken beer bottles on a Saturday or Sunday morning. I have 2 kids and we were there quite often.

I also ran past during my evening runs as late as midnight and never noticed anything. RVCPD frequently has a car in the rec center parking lot to snag speeders and non-yielders at the intersection of Long Beach and Oceanside Roads.

Perhaps the park with trouble is the one over by Old Mill Court and the MLK Community Center and someone confused the MLK with the Rec?

CG

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:09:40 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Charles G on Mon Aug 10 14:38:03 2009.

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Baldwin is turning into Freeport. Rockville Center is turning into Baldwin. That's why I said in another thread, look out Lynbrook.

Island Park is also going down the crapper.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:10:47 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 10:46:10 2009.

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Greenport is poor white trash, slightly more upscale than Riverhead. Except in summer ...

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:13:22 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 14:18:01 2009.

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Agreed on Valley Stream, Elmont is in Nassau, IIRC.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 21:39:34 2009, in response to Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 10:07:53 2009.

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What is the basis for this opinion? Is crime higher or are people just poorer? Is the neighborhood not being kept up as well like in Gran Torino? I need some statistics!! ;)

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 22:12:52 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 10 19:10:47 2009.

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That's not true. That's a section near the Downtown area. Much of Greenport is quite well to do.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 22:14:59 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by d_mind on Mon Aug 10 18:04:47 2009.

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The part near Queens is pretty crumby, and has been. Like most LI towns, it has nice parts, and not so great parts.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 10 22:15:23 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 21:39:34 2009.

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You don't question the Senior Fein.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 23:14:19 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Howard Fein on Mon Aug 10 15:40:17 2009.

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When drives down Grand Avenue from the Southern State into Baldwin, a lot of previously vibrant shopping centers now contain vacancies, clinics and check-cashing stores. Never a good sign. Friends of mine who lived in the northeast got fed up with vandalism and single-family houses suddenly containing over 20 people.

When you see multiple satellite TV dishes on what appears to be a single-family house, it's never a good sign :)

My LIRR/NYCT blog

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:18:54 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Peter Rosa on Mon Aug 10 23:14:19 2009.

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When you see multiple satellite TV dishes on what appears to be a single-family house, it's never a good sign :)

Is that allowed in your zoning laws? Anyway, that's better than abandoned.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:20:48 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 21:39:34 2009.

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Of course you need some statistics. They help you hide from the headlines.

In the last five or six weeks, we've seen two shootings in Brentwood, a fatal stabbing in Brentwood, a shooting in Huntington Station, and another fatal stabbing in Westbury. There was also a bias attack in Valley Stream.

All this, in addition to a huge raid on Long Island today(I'll link the article soon), where Latina sex slaves from Honduras and El Salvador were forced into a life of prostitution in bars and "cantinas" in Suffolk.



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Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:26:38 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009.

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Esclavas en Suffuk

What's La Raza going to do about this? Young Latinas FORCED into a life a SLAVERY. La Raza won't do shit because they are not a legitimate organization. All they're good for is getting portable potties and shelters installed where illegal workers gather.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:31:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:20:48 2009.

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Blah, blah, blah. Where are the statistics to show that it's worse than before?

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Re: Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:36:11 2009, in response to Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:26:38 2009.

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LA forced The Home Depot to install shelters and restrooms for day laborers that gather in front of their stores. It's not like they even want them there either. They threatened to close their LA stores, but they haven't so far as I know.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:38:20 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:31:42 2009.

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Hispanic gangs stabbing people at random. Shooting kids playing basketball. Shooting at each other. Forcing girls into a life of prostitution. These were common headlines on Long Island back in the 70's and 80's. Yup. It's no different today than it was back then.

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Re: Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:39:56 2009, in response to Re: Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:36:11 2009.

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But what is La Raza going to do about these poor jovencitas? La Raza knows when to pick a fight, and this isn't it. They don't care about Latinos. They care about headlines.

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Re: Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:51:01 2009, in response to Re: Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:39:56 2009.

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I don't care about La Raza nor the poor jovencitas whatever that means.

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Suffolk Sex Slaves Stifled Slowly (Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 10 23:53:16 2009, in response to Suffolk Sex Slaves(Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:26:38 2009.

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What's La Raza going to do about this?

They could be behind it.

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:56:15 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Aug 10 23:38:20 2009.

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Amy Fisher, Joel Rifkin, Katie Beers, Marty Tankleff, etc...

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 00:11:07 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 10 23:56:15 2009.

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No big deal. Do you really think people feel threatened by Amy Fisher? She's not a threat to the quality of life and property values like today's newer residents. Me entiendes?

Joel Rifkin? No different than Berkowitz in many ways.

Beers. I'll have to go to wikipedia to remember that one.

Tankleff?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 00:41:28 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 00:11:07 2009.

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Here you go selective one



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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 00:45:05 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Aug 11 00:11:07 2009.

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BEERS, oh great changer of subject

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 11 10:49:01 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 10 22:14:59 2009.

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The parts of Valley Stream near Queens is crumby? since when?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 11 10:53:42 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 00:45:05 2009.

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Why was she kidnapped by a family friend?

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Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Aug 11 10:56:18 2009, in response to Re: Questionable Areas on Long Island, posted by N6 Limited on Tue Aug 11 10:49:01 2009.

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