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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:20:39 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 11:44:19 2009. hahaha, and I know that Checkers well, too! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:21:06 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:48:12 2009. LOL, exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:23:21 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:55:28 2009. I guess it depends on where you are, but I always have thought of Brentwood as a Hispanic area, not necessarily "Black". Brentwood has been hispanic, and getting more so for many decades. My friend lived in a white area of Brentwood, that becamse Hispanic by the 80's, but it was never really "black".I think he may be thinking of nearby Central Islip which was quite black, and becoming Hispanic. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:23:54 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:19:37 2009. I think it was 58. I remember missing my exit, and having to get off at the next exit, and drive back west one exit.I'm not making it seem good, bad, safe, dangerous, rich, poor, or any of the terms we use. I'm only saying that when I got off the LIE, and sat at the red light, I could not believe how much garbage people throw into the little grassy area between the off ramp and expressway. It's not an indictment of all Suffolk residents. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:24:04 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:13:10 2009. But Brentwood was like that in the 70's and 80's already. You make it sound like it's some recent phenomena. it's been like that for over 30 years. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:24:46 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:48:12 2009. I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:25:05 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Easy on Wed Jun 24 21:47:29 2009. All I can say is that Long Island is a lot like Compton. Especially Nassau.Uhhh, NO. You are even more clueless about Long Island and Nassau then Luch is if you actually think that. That's even more ludicrous of a statement than Luch's. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:26:03 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:53:09 2009. LOL!! Easy's statement about Compton and Nassau is even more ludicrous than Luch's about Brentwood! At least Luch's statement is an exaggeration of a half truth. Easy's is TOTALLY ludicrous. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:26:52 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:55:52 2009. Correct, but Easy think's most of Long Island (especially Nassau, LOL) is like "Compton". LMAO!!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:28:58 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:23:54 2009. I don't disagree....there's litter. But there was worse litter in my opinion in the 70's and 80's. Back then they didn't have litter pick up projects on any large scale, so it looked worse back then in my opinion. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:29:39 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:24:46 2009. I'm not surprised. I'm disappointed.Then you must have been disappointed for years, and less disappointed now than in the past, although still disappointed. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 25 12:29:40 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:50:33 2009. Exactly, to find trouble in almost every area of Long Island except for Roosevelt, you have to be looking for it. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:31:00 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:23:21 2009. My friends from Ridgewood moved to Brentwood in 1978 or so, and they moved onto an all black street, with a little playground at the end of the street. There were no drive-by shootings, graffiti, etc...Their younger sisters both married black men and moved to Ridgewood to be closer to work. How ironic that they moved to the neighborhood their parents left 30 years ago.Today, it's mostly Hispanic and Brentwood seems to be in the news a lot. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:32:24 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:25:05 2009. I'm not clueless. I'm only saying that crime is spreading on Long Island. Sorry if I hit a nerve. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:33:17 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:32:24 2009. You didn't hit "a nerve". More like the funny bone. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:33:41 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:26:03 2009. What's ludicrous about my Brentwood statement? We both agree there's a crime issue there. Right?I'm not exaggerating. I posted a story about a second drive-by shooting in two weeks. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:34:10 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:26:52 2009. He's joking. You fell for it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:35:43 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:34:10 2009. yeah, come to think of it, I seem to remember a revelation of his a few months ago where he discovered that it's NOT like Compton. I remember that now. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:35:44 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:17:09 2009. Baloney. Brentwood has been that way for over 30 yearsYes. Thanks to the presense of such upstanding citizens as NYPD Officer MICHAEL DOWD. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:38:02 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:31:00 2009. The Hispanic population of the Brentwood-Central Islip area actually started increasing sharply in 1979-1982 - during a recession - and it never stopped growing as a fraction of the total, whetehr in boom times or bust times after that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:38:12 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:33:17 2009. That's because you don't have children. If you did, you'd be concerned. You'd worry if it's safe for them to go to the mall, or what kids are zoned for their school, and all the things city people worried about when fleeing to Long Island.I think the drive-by shootings are reason for concern. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 12:38:28 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:20:05 2009. I urge everyone to do a search and find just how many live near you. I was shocked to see how many are in Woodhaven. A couple have committed some sick, twisted shit. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:39:33 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:38:12 2009. LOL, so don't move to Brentwood. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:49:14 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:38:02 2009. Actually it probably goes back much further than even that; I see an NYT article from November 1972 that talks about a Puerto Rican community in the area of about 15,000 members. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:59:07 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:49:14 2009. Yeah, I had thought it was earlier than you originally stated, as I remember a strong Hispanic presence there in the 70's already. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:03:02 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:18:55 2009. Must have been this place: http://www.yelp.com/biz/pollo-campero-brentwood-bay-shore |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:04:58 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:03:02 2009. They have a location just south of Junction Blvd station on the NYCT Flushing Line that's quite visible from the train.Never been to either location. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:05:39 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:03:02 2009. But then again, Ridgewood was also messed up with a pollo campero just recently, lol.There goes Ridgewood.... :)  http://bushwickbk.com/2009/06/18/guatemalas-fried-multinational-blandness/ |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:07:03 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:05:39 2009. At least they have surveillance footage to assist in investigations of the drive-bys now. :) |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 25 13:07:13 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:50:33 2009. I used to live 3 of those 5 cities. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 13:08:20 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:04:58 2009. I think it's 103/Corona Plaza, not Junction. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:09:46 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:04:58 2009. They just opened one in Ridgewood where St Nicholas and Myrtle meet. I have to try it one day when I am in the area. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:12:05 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 13:08:20 2009. I think it's 103/Corona Plaza, not Junction.I was in error; you are correct. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 13:25:42 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:18:35 2009. Gordon Heights is a crappy neighborhood. Very crappy. It's like the Coram Hill section of Coram, North Bellport, Wyandanch, etc. Gordon Heights actually is not a zip code though, it's in the Medford post office.It's also one of the least visible 'hoods in the area, being tucked away in the woods and not on the road to anywhere. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jun 25 13:30:07 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 10:54:10 2009. New Cassel, parts of Freeport, parts of Baldwin, parts of Long Beach...The harder you look for something, the more likely you'll find it. There are nice and not so nice neighborhhods wherever you go. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 13:30:10 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:23:21 2009. I guess it depends on where you are, but I always have thought of Brentwood as a Hispanic area, not necessarily "Black".Most of the people I see boarding LIRR trains in Brentwood are Hispanic. They probably live in the area, as it's not easy to get to the station from anywhere else. People coming from other towns would be more likely go to Deer Park station instead, as that's right off the Sagtikos Parkway. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:30:42 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 13:25:42 2009. You are absolutely correct. It's in the middle of no where.Actually, Eagle Estates in Medford showed signs of "could go either way" back in the 80's. It never got as bad as Gordon Heights, but It was pretty rough there until the late 80's. But the mid 90's, it began a complete 360. Lots of young couples came in and bought out a lot of the rentals, and it is now a nice decent neighborhood. There were a LOT of boarded up houses and lots of rentals (section 8) there until the early 90's. I remember the shopping center where Island Recreational is was like a hellhole in the 80's. Now it's a decent shopping center, it's hard to believe how crappy it once was there. |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jun 25 13:31:15 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:29:39 2009. TRUTH. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:32:29 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:30:42 2009. Part of the problem now for these areas is a high foreclosure rate, much higher than in the vast majority of the greater NY region. A rising tide lifts all boats, but going the other way.... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:37:51 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:32:29 2009. I don't believe Eagle estates has a higher problem with foreclosure than any other area around here. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 13:43:26 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:30:42 2009. Actually, Eagle Estates in Medford showed signs of "could go either way" back in the 80's. It never got as bad as Gordon Heights, but It was pretty rough there until the late 80's. But the mid 90's, it began a complete 360. Lots of young couples came in and bought out a lot of the rentals, and it is now a nice decent neighborhood. There were a LOT of boarded up houses and lots of rentals (section 8) there until the early 90's. I remember the shopping center where Island Recreational is was like a hellhole in the 80's. Now it's a decent shopping center, it's hard to believe how crappy it once was there.I live in Eagle Estates, have been there since 1997. It's always been a decent place in my experience, but my wife has been there since the mid-1980's and has said it went through a really bad phase for a while. You do occasionally see some sort of rough-looking people hanging out at that plaza, mostly around the laundromat, but it's not a bad plaza by any means. Medford Pastaria is quite upscale, though we prefer the 'za from La Margherita. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 13:43:49 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:37:51 2009. Sorry, I was unclear about the indexical 'these areas' - I meant the less affluent areas generally - parts of Freeport, Roosevelt, Central Islip, Brentwood, etc. - and I don't know anything about eagle estates specifically; hell, I need a map just to find it specifically!The comment was more directed about who communities can 'turn around', and not 'turn around'. I think that the increased foreclosure rate is going to have sinking effect for the affected areas. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 13:44:12 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:29:39 2009. No. I don't remember the drive-by shootings and gang graffiti in the past. The gangsta types have raised the violence a level or two in recent years. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 13:49:11 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 13:43:26 2009. I agree totally with you, it's like night and day there from the way it was in the 80's. Again, it never got as bad as either Gordon Heights or North Bellport (Pace Park), but it did begin to deteriorate for a while. By the late 90s it had GREATLY improved.That shopping center isn't bad anymore at all, it used to be a poster for all that was wrong in Eagle Estates in the 80's back then. I kinda like that Chinese Buffet in there, have been there a few times, although I don't got o Chinese buffets often, so haven't been there in a while. I never tried that pizza place there, I also prefer La Margherita on Station Rd. Island Recreational stuck it out, it was there way back when too. I went there often back in the 80's as my cousin had a pool in the 80's and we often picked up supplies there. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Jun 25 17:09:20 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:35:43 2009. Luch is right. I was just yanking your chain. Parts of Long Island are probably like Compton (what do I know?), but they are probably in Queens, Brooklyn, and adjacent. So maybe Nassau, but most of Long Island seems decent. Overrated, but decent.My revelation a few months ago was that I thought that Suffolk was urban/suburban (like Orange County, CA) and it's really suburban/rural. |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Thu Jun 25 17:45:37 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:50:33 2009. Or down here in Philadelphia. :) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 25 21:01:56 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:50:33 2009. BTW, it's Paterson (only 1 t) in NJ. I had a Great Uncle on my Father's side who lived there from 1920 to 1961. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Thu Jun 25 21:03:21 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 13:44:12 2009. BTW, are you back in NYC or still in FLA? |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Jun 25 21:18:46 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. Twin Forks is SO different than the rest of Suffolk County that I 100% agree with the concept of creating Peconic County -- a new, separate political entity including Riverhead and everything east of it (both north and south). |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Jun 25 21:19:54 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by ntrainride on Wed Jun 24 21:39:56 2009. Add Mastic/Shirley and Wyandanch (sp). |
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