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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009 Lovely Long Island TownI know you Suffolk County people will brush this off as being, "Not near my town", etc.......but Suffolk is shot(no pun intended). You have to go far, very far east before you can find a decent town or school. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Wed Jun 24 21:39:56 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. Umm, Babylon, Islip, East Islip, West Islip, Oakdale, Smithtown, Commack, Dix Hills...to name a few. Of course, this depends on the definition of "decent", I suppose. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jun 24 21:47:29 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. I was blocked from reading it and I'm not interested enough for bugmenot (if that's still around). All I can say is that Long Island is a lot like Compton. Especially Nassau. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 00:16:28 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Easy on Wed Jun 24 21:47:29 2009. LOL. Just after that, a story came out on Univision about a woman abandoning her newborn in Nassau County. These were Brooklyn/Bronx stories years ago. Now Long Island is totally citifying. |
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Posted by d_mind on Thu Jun 25 00:17:19 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 00:16:28 2009. Hempstead/Uniondale/Roosevelt is essentially a noncontinuous extension of Queens. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:17:09 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. Baloney. Brentwood has been that way for over 30 years. Most of Long Island is very nice, not like the cesspool of the 5 boroughs. As far as "You have to go far, very far east before you can find a decent town or school", all you have to do is go west as most of Nassau is beautiful. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:18:55 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. It's those damn chicken joints. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 25 07:40:18 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. Just another benefit of the gangsta rap culture. Isn't Brentwood where people either walk or drive around lowered crossing gates and are struck by trains every other week ?Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 25 07:49:52 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Easy on Wed Jun 24 21:47:29 2009. All I can say is that Long Island is a lot like Compton.Not at all, Long Island is really nice the only place where I'd feel unsafe over there is Roosevelt, I used to think that Riverhead was unsafe until I walked around the area after I missed a bus once. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:27:59 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. Are you nuts? Brentwood isn't exactly known as the "best" neighborhood, and that's no different than it's been for decades there.There are plenty of good school districts and towns near Brentwood. I know they have chicken in Brentwood like they do in Richmond Hill. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:29:07 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 25 07:49:52 2009. There's nothing unsafe about Riverhead. That is some weird perception that some people at SubChat seem to have, and I don't understand it. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Jun 25 10:10:57 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Jun 25 07:40:18 2009. Isn't Brentwood where people either walk or drive around lowered crossing gates and are struck by trains every other week ?Yes. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:28:03 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:27:59 2009. Either way, these people who embrace the gangsta rap culture, shoot 'em up on the b-ball court, etc......still have to go to the same malls, schools, beaches, etc....... as everyone else. They are ruining a once beautiful place. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:29:51 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:29:07 2009. Would you live in Riverhead, or think twice before moving there? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:31:17 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:17:09 2009. that way |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:35:52 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:28:03 2009. So then don't go to Bay Shore Mall. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:37:17 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:29:51 2009. I wouldn't live in Riverhead because I wouldn't want to add yet another 1/2 hour to my already 1 hour drive to Brooklyn, so yes I would think twice. But if it wasn't for LIE exit location, I have no problem with Riverhead. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:41:01 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:31:17 2009. But it has, this is no surprise this happened in Brentwood. It could be a news story from the 70's and it would have been the same. Brentwood is well, Brentwood. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 10:54:10 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. You could substitute Wyandanch, Wheatley Heights, Coram, Shirley-Mastic, Hempstead, or Roosevelt (possibly Bohemia), and this would be no surprise at all. It isn't a surprise for Brentwood either. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:00:08 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 10:54:10 2009. Parts of Coram are nice, and Mastic and Shirley gets a bad rep. While far from "wonderful", Shirley is not as bad as Wyandanch, Roosevelt, etc. It definitely a "salt of the earth" blue collar location, and a lot more like Roseanne's "Lanford" than some crappy area like Wyandanch.And Bohemia? Are you kidding? What the heck is wrong with Bohemia? I wouldn't even put that in the same category as Shirley, much less Wyandanch or some of the others. Bohemia? |
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Posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 25 11:07:17 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:41:01 2009. Shoot, we (Central Islip boys) used to have rumbles with the Brentwood boys. Right across the street, actually, as Islip Avenue is the dividing line. Talking about in the late `60's and early `70's. I could tell you shit make your head spin. That's the way it goes. Wherever you're at there's gonna be "better" and "worse". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:15:06 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by ntrainride on Thu Jun 25 11:07:17 2009. Hahahaha. Yeah, it's like it's always been like that, but it's cool. A good friend of mine grew up in Brentwood. To this day, he still wonders why his parents remained there as long as they did, haha.... It wasn't until he graduated High School that they moved to Smithtown.We always make fun of him on the Ronkonkoma branch trains when we are on them going to a game in the city or something, as we drive through "Brentwood: His Home Town".... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:23:55 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:35:52 2009. Green Acres! Sunrise! Shall we name more malls that have been citified? This is my point about Long Island. You have your high crime areas, but you still have to share the same malls, schools, beaches, etc......... In NY, there were bad areas like Bed-Stuy and Jamaica, but it never had an impact on quality of life in Middle Village or Fresh Meadows. On Long Island, the malls have been ruined because of surrounding towns, and it's residents. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:27:10 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:00:08 2009. When I drove to Islip Airport, I got off the LIE at exit 57, and it was filthy. It seemed like everyone who got stuck at the red light through their food and bottles onto the grass.Another time, I was coming from the Hamptons, and drove through Mastic-Shirley, and we stopped for something, and I commented on how disgusting it was. Just like exit 57, there was garbage everywhere. Long Island is not the same as it was. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:27:55 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:23:55 2009. On Long Island, the malls have been ruined because of surrounding towns, and it's residents.You are totally exaggerating. And I was joking about Bay Shore Mall, I have no problem with Bay Shore Mall. And there are plenty of malls that are fine.... And as for Green Acres, it's effected more by the fact that it is two feet from the city line than that it's "so impacted" by LI bad areas. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:34:33 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:27:55 2009. For people like my cousins, who remember better times on Long Island, they have to have a good reason to go to Sunrise Mall. It's totally fucked up. Purse snatchings. Kids throwing rocks at cars from a nearby overpass. Kids driving cars into the mall to break into stores. Constant auto theft.People who grew up on Long Island, remember better times. For someone like you, who grew up in Ridgewood, and moved out there later on, you don't remember the good 'ol days. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 11:40:11 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:00:08 2009. However, Gordon Heights wouldn't surprise me; that area is a clsuter of registered sex offenders. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 25 11:42:54 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 10:54:10 2009. The only dangerous area out of all of those is Roosevelt and Hempstead around South Franklin Avenue. Wyandanch, Brentwood, Central Islip, Gordon Heights, and etc... have nothing on a REAL dangerous area like Newburgh. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:43:39 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:27:10 2009. You are totally exaggerating. Exit 57 is Vets Highway in Islandia/Central Islip.And no one is claiming that Shirley is "beautiful". But Mastic developed like that back in the 50's and 60's, and is small homes on small lots. It hasn't changed. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 11:44:19 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:27:59 2009. They also have a Checkers there. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:48:12 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. I know you Suffolk County people will brush this off as being, "Not near my town", etc.......but Suffolk is shot(no pun intended). You have to go far, very far east before you can find a decent town or school.Please... Know your subject before pontificating. Suffolk, Nassau, NYC, they're big places. You think that there are no parts of Suffolk that don't have problems and that haven't had problems for decades? It's no surprise than that you're apparently surprised. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:48:23 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:34:33 2009. Please, you are totally exaggerating.People who grew up on Long Island, remember better times. For someone like you, who grew up in Ridgewood, and moved out there later on, you don't remember the good 'ol days. Uhm, while I grew up in Ridgewood, my mother is from Suffolk Country and my whole family was always out here, and spent just about every weekend, school break weeks off, and the entire summer every year at my cousin's house and Grandmother's house. I know long Island very well all through the 70's, 80's, 90's and to today, so know perfectly well "the good ole days". And yes, we have had fried chicken places out here since before the 70's. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:48:27 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:43:39 2009. I'm not exaggerating. I could not believe how all those people throw their garbage into the little grassy area to the left of the lanes at the traffic light. If it wasn't exit 57, then it's 58(I missed my exit one time). Either way, there was lots of garbage on the floor. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:49:32 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 11:40:11 2009. There are sex offenders everywhere. I have two living on my block. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:50:33 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jun 25 11:42:54 2009. Don't forget the wonderful areas of Jersey like Patterson, Plainfield, Camden, Newark and Asbury Park. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:50:58 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:17:09 2009. Baloney. Brentwood has been that way for over 30 years.Definitely. Most of Long Island is very nice, not like the cesspool of the 5 boroughs. NYC is not a cesspool. Plenty of places in NYC, Nassau, Suffolk, and all over the region are, but all of NYC is emphatically not. LuchAAA overgeneralized as to Suffolk, and you do the same as to NYC. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:51:08 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 11:48:23 2009. I'm not exaggerating. You're in denial. It's not the same Long Island it used to be. The purse snatchings and auto theft, and now drive-by shootings are a sign of a changing environment. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:52:23 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 10:28:03 2009. Either way, these people who embrace the gangsta rap culture, shoot 'em up on the b-ball court, etc......still have to go to the same malls, schools, beaches, etc....... as everyone else. They are ruining a once beautiful place.Then you don't know much about the NYC area region - Brentwood has been like that for longer than I have been around. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:53:09 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Easy on Wed Jun 24 21:47:29 2009. Yup. I grew up on the mean streets of Manhasset. And those gangs from Smithtown are HARDCORE! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:54:26 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 08:29:07 2009. Riverhead reminds me of Jamaica. It's probably the courthouse. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:55:28 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 11:52:23 2009. Brentwood used to be mostly black AFAIK. These shootings seem to involve Hispanos.Either way, this drive-by shooting stuff is so inner-city. Maybe Brentwood was "like that"(as you put it, we know what you really mean), but I don't remember the drive-by shootings back in the day. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:55:52 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Jun 25 06:17:09 2009. Yes, bad areas on LI are an exception, not the norm. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:00:00 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 10:37:17 2009. And Lookie here, I forgot about this place....this is what must have ruined Riverhead.....but I can vouch their chicken is DELISCIOUS!!!!http://www.lioddities.com/Roadside/spicys.htm |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:01:26 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:51:08 2009. LOL. Drive by shootings. And the neighborhood that that happened in was a hellhole in the 70's already. hardly anything new. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:07:30 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:55:28 2009. Maybe Brentwood was "like that"(as you put it, we know what you really mean), but I don't remember the drive-by shootings back in the day.Brentwood was known to me as a place that you don't want to live in for as long as I can remember. Originally, I think that I thought that it was like an urban problem zone, but actually I later learned by looking at pictures of homes in real estate listing magazines that it is very much a suburb. Brentwood used to be mostly black AFAIK. These shootings seem to involve Hispanos. I don't know about the demographics now. Yes, my understanding was that in the past that there was a large black population, and probably there still is. Hispanic population has been exploding in much of the less affluent communities in Nassau and Suffolk, so that wouldn't be surprising. |
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Posted by d_mind on Thu Jun 25 12:11:03 2009, in response to Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jun 24 20:12:39 2009. If you go too far east you'll run into |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 12:13:10 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Jun 25 12:07:30 2009. There's no reason for these drive-by gangsta rap style shootings. I saw the news reports from Brentwood, and the homes look nice, and neighborhood looks quiet. The kids embrace the city gangsta rap lifestyle, when they should be enjoying life in a nice quiet area. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:18:35 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Jun 25 11:40:11 2009. Gordon Heights is a crappy neighborhood. Very crappy. It's like the Coram Hill section of Coram, North Bellport, Wyandanch, etc. Gordon Heights actually is not a zip code though, it's in the Medford post office. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:19:37 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jun 25 11:48:27 2009. It probably wasn't 57..... You could mean Exit 58, that's Old Nichols road in CI. Still not as bad as you make it seem. And Hooters is right there.... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Jun 25 12:20:05 2009, in response to Re: Brentwood Long Island Shootings, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jun 25 11:49:32 2009. Actually, you can have them in the best of neighborhoods. |
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