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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 20:04:49 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 20:00:11 2008. Their message is one of divisiveness. Even if it were just Republican versus Democrat, but it's much more than that. I could probably say the same thing about progressive radio, however like most people I have never listened to it so I won't. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 20:07:24 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 19:59:57 2008. When was Rev Wright relevant other than as a campaign issue? I never even heard of him before Obama came along.I didn't mean to place him at the "status" of the others. What I meant is, that people like him won't be able to preech their hate, as a big part of their hate agenda amunition has been erased. Sharpton is only relevant in the NYC area. Again, I mean people like him. He just lost a big part of his agenda too. Poof, they are irrelevant. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 20:08:34 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 20:00:57 2008. I tried to re-explain....I didn't necessarily mean each of them, I mean people like them and their agenda. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 20:11:02 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 20:07:24 2008. I see. I agree to a large degree. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 20:12:00 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 20:00:57 2008. I misunderstood. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 20:23:21 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 19:51:55 2008. And BTW, you didn't participate in any of the threads where this was bing discussed this whole time, and now all of a sudden you have the nerve to interject for the purpose to "attack"?And yes, people had every right to defend their candidate before the election. Every right. That does NOT mean that after the election is decided, that the right thing isn't to back the person who was the opposition. That is the PROPER way to move forward as a nation. TO illustrate. In the primaries, you had "Hillary" people and you had "Obama" people. The ATTACK post you made criticizing the "Republicans" (lol, I am not even a Republican) for backing McCain is no different for the Hillary Democrats coming over to Obama after Hillary lost. Do you think Obama would have won or the Democratic party would have won if they hadn't mostly joined together as one again AFTER the primaries? It's no different than The McCain people coming together after the election back to unite back as WE the nation. Unfortunately though, it's people like you that perpetuation the "us" and "they" ugliness apparently, which divides the country. It's not supposed to be "us" and "them", it's WE. It's all well and good when you are supporting one candidate and others another candidate in the elections. That's normal, that's Democracy. But the next step after that has to be a united front once it's over. THAT is how we advance as a nation, and that is how we heal as a nation. Unfortunately though, we never healed from November 2000, and THAT is one of the big problems this country has, that I hope will be rectified. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 5 20:36:39 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 20:23:21 2008. Are you arguing with yourself? |
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Re: McCain concedes |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 20:41:03 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 17:12:38 2008. PALIN 2012! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 20:42:15 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 5 20:36:39 2008. Shhh...he thinks he's winning!;) |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 20:43:05 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 20:41:03 2008. She has to start by improving her perception to the American public.Otherwise she'll be a modern day Quale. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 5 20:46:23 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 17:12:38 2008. He seemed so modest and sincere. Ah well, wasn't to be.I think he listened to the wrong campaign advisers. I would have voted for the 2007 McCain over the 2007 Obama any day. But they both changed. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 21:23:49 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Nov 5 20:36:39 2008. No with Terrapin, who's post I was originally going to ignore, with just the LOL response, but then decided, I needed to g=explain why I was laughing at that post. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 21:25:16 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 20:41:03 2008. What does she have to do with it? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 5 21:32:36 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 5 00:10:26 2008. Okay...so it's usually Train Dude...not so much LuchAAA. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 21:39:24 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 21:25:16 2008. If she polishes up..she could be a contender...! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 22:10:10 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 21:39:24 2008. Hillary vs Sarah?You know Hillary isn't disappearing..... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 5 22:18:18 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 22:10:10 2008. Hillary vs Sarah?Thats JUST what i was thinking... Now that would be a presidential race!! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 22:31:21 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 5 22:18:18 2008. I think I would welcome it. We'll see.But think of the debates.... Meow meow!!! |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:31:41 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 5 20:41:03 2008. Well she probably would've ran a more fierce campaign than McCain would have. McCain couldn't match Obama's finances and personality. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:38:05 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:31:41 2008. McCain couldn't match Obama's...personality.Can you even imagine what McCain's campaign would have been like without Palin and Joe the Plumber?!? DOA |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 22:40:19 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:38:05 2008. If McCain didn't have Palin and Joe the Plumber,he might have still lost. But it might have been a closer race! |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:42:37 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 22:40:19 2008. Really? I agree with everyone that says that the economy lost him the election, but without Palin even Republicans weren't that interested in McCain. |
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Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:45:55 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 21:23:49 2008. but you messed up! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 22:47:05 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:31:41 2008. What personality? Unless you mean "cult of" . . . ? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:47:20 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 20:43:05 2008. She has to start by improving her perception to the American public.huh? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:47:59 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:42:37 2008. lol |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:48:10 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 22:40:19 2008. wow, you are so out of touch with reality |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:51:30 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:38:05 2008. McCain didn't even try to fight, he kept praising Obama. The GOP party had to make their own campaign about Obama and the Bill Ayers thing. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:52:26 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 22:47:05 2008. Lol, anti-christ perhaps? Appealing, charismatic, media treats him like a savior. It sorta adds up :)**semi-sarcastic. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:53:52 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:38:05 2008. Plus not to mention the youth vote probably thought McCain was an old fart and Obama just pushed on w/the ads [even some in video games like sports ones]. You can't escape the Obama machine. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:57:59 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 22:51:30 2008. I've been telling people for months that I don't think that McCain even wanted to win. He was just going through the motions. It really almost seemed like that to me. Or maybe he really is just too old to keep up the energy. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 23:00:54 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:57:59 2008. Popular vote was still 46-52. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 23:06:49 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 23:00:54 2008. Well it's Dems vs. Republicans. It's not going to get much worse than that. Even Bush-Dukakis was 53-46 and look how we remember that. The only really huge blowout that I've seen was Reagan-Mondale. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 23:23:56 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:47:20 2008. She was described after her appearence on SNL as a non-blonde dumb blonde. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 23:25:27 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 5 22:48:10 2008. Actually that's what some thought of Palin. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 23:30:36 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:57:59 2008. I kinda felt McCain kinda threw away his campaign. Many times he could've tried to fight or hell pick a running mate that ppl at least heard of like Romney [his background w/the economy] could've really helped.The Wall St meltdown also kinda helped Obama win. Ppl were all concerned about that rather than Iraq/National Security. I mean i really doubt Obama can make a difference there any differently than McCain would have. Plus if ppl voted for Obama based on race - I'm sorry, but they have no right to vote at all. Voting should be based on issues, not race or likability. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 23:31:31 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:57:59 2008. You might have something there.Maybe McCain didn't want to win. All he wants to do now is write his memoirs, wait for his term to end and be like MacArthur's old solier and fade away. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Nov 5 23:41:47 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 5 23:30:36 2008. McCain wanted to win in 2000. McCain should have won in 2000. He wanted to run a different kind of campaign and run as the "straight talk express." Unfortunately, he got beat by the Bush campaign in the 2000 primaries.McCain's problem is that he embraced the same type of campaign that in 2000 beat him in the Republican Primaries (the attack the other guy and not talk about myself strategy). If McCain would have focused on himself, his experience, and his passon and desire to be President we wouldn't be talking about an Obama victory here. McCain/Lieberman would be the President and Vice-President elect. Unfortunately, McCain sold out and lost the election as a result |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 6 00:07:10 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Nov 5 23:41:47 2008. when he picked Palin, i felt it was over. At that point even Lieberman as VP would've been a more sound choice. Anyone that had experience or at least was known to more ppl than an unknown would've been a better choice.Thing is I agree, McCain in 2000 would've been great, sadly he became too much like Bush 3 and that's another reason the key states voted Obama. Neither Obama nor McCain were my choices and it came down to which one would be less worse. Obama the unknown or McCain who would've continued Bush's policies to an extent. Well looks like it's 4 more years to find out if Obama is a savior or will destroy the country. At least maybe now perhaps the GOP will find the next Reagan or someone. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:52:19 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Wed Nov 5 23:41:47 2008. LIARMAN..is a damned traitor.. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:53:27 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Edwards! on Thu Nov 6 02:52:19 2008. No, he is not. The more you do that, the more it'll rebound on you. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 6 03:40:48 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 6 02:53:27 2008. Get back to us when you renounce your fairies and accept Christ ... taking a name based on witchcraft and legend is blasphemage. All your bible teaches also has a few references on that. "Judge ye not?" :-\ Dewd ... you've been left behind! :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 04:35:37 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 13:32:23 2008.  |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 6 04:35:53 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 13:32:23 2008. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Nov 6 04:38:19 2008, in response to Re: Congratulations to President-elect Obama, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 5 13:32:23 2008. Heh. GO for it ... my shoulders are broad, at least in THIS shirt ... so YOUR excuse would be? :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 06:55:17 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 23:23:56 2008. No, I'm asking you to try to say what you said again, this time in English. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 06:56:03 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 5 23:25:27 2008. Not really. But YOU really are, and many people here know it. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 6 06:57:59 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 5 22:42:37 2008. I agree with everyone that says that the economy lost him the election, but without Palin even Republicans weren't that interested in McCain.Republicans may not have been enthusiastic about McCain, but most would have voted for him anyway as a vote against Obama. Without Palin and Wurzelbacher on board, independents would have been more easily swayed. The GOP made the mistake of pandering to thier base instead of swaying independents. |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Nov 6 06:58:23 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 5 22:10:10 2008. Maybe for mud wrestling. But for President? I think I'll pass. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Nov 6 07:35:29 2008, in response to Re: McCain concedes, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 6 06:55:17 2008. Chew on this for a while:היא תיארה לאחר ההופעה שלה ב SNL כפי שאינו בלונדינית טיפשה בלונדינית. |
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