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Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Mon Jun 24 19:23:20 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sun Jun 23 20:50:33 2024.* WOAH
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Mon Jun 24 19:25:11 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Mon Jun 24 19:19:11 2024.* It’s exactly what they’re planning. They’ll likely fail just like in 2020, but the chance of success is not 0 (although would argue it’s less likely than 2020).
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Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Jun 24 20:52:53 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jun 24 19:22:49 2024.* Well, I'm not a robot or AI!
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Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Mon Jun 24 20:53:45 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 19:25:11 2024.* I don't think they are.
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Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jun 25 07:13:52 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by BILLBKLYN on Mon Jun 24 20:52:53 2024.* WHAT ARE YOU
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Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA
Posted by BILLBKLYN* on Tue Jun 25 07:18:18 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 25 07:13:52 2024.* I already said, a man.
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Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA
Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jun 25 13:02:09 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jun 25 07:18:18 2024.* GOD IS A MAN THE DEVIL IS A MAN
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Tue Jun 25 13:34:54 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jun 25 13:02:09 2024.* LOL!
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Posted by https://salaamallah.com/* on Tue Jun 25 14:23:02 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jun 25 13:34:54 2024.* YOU THE DEVIL
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 10:05:55 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Jun 24 19:25:11 2024.* Let them plan what they want if in fact credible plans exist. How could they possibly pull that off? Talk is cheap. Worst case scenario would be another riot and demonstration around the Capital. Maybe this time protective troops will be deployed if need be, unlike in 2020.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 10:52:08 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 10:05:55 2024.* No, worst case would be the House accepting slates of electors that hadn't actually won a plurality of votes in their states. The right wing keeps pretending (and you swallow their bait) that the January 6th riots were the big threat to democracy. They weren't. The big threat was Trump and his co-conspirators trying to push a false narrative of election fraud through the House. PS. This "push" was not just free speech because it involved exhorting various people to lie under oath.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 11:03:17 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 10:05:55 2024.* OMG! It will not be a riot. Every fucking time you bring this up I keep telling you that the attempted coup on January 6, 2021 was NOT the storming of the Capitol. They’re going to have another set of fake electors, they’re going to object to the proper electors and if both houses are controlled by the Trump Party they could well vote to sustain the objections and either accept the fake electors or force a contingent election in the House. This was the plan the last time, and if anything the storming of the Capitol prevented it by causing several senators to lose their stomach for the plan. The difference this time is that only two of the swing states has a Trump Party governor (and arguably Georgia is the most dispensable), they don’t have the vice presidency (which didn’t work for them the last time anyway), the independent state legislature doctrine is dead, and the threshold for an objection is higher. The latter is less important because if they can get to a majority, they can certainly meet the threshold.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 11:05:27 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 26 11:03:17 2024.* the independent state legislature doctrine is dead I'm forgetting - how did that happen?
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 11:59:26 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 11:05:27 2024.* Supreme Court rejected it.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 12:27:55 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 10:52:08 2024.* "that the January 6th riots were the big threat to democracy." HUH?? I never said or agreed with that. That sounds to me like an extreme left position which I dont subscribe to. "...it involved exhorting various people to lie under oath." Another post you cant prove.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 12:36:59 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 12:27:55 2024.* You quoted that out of context and completely misinterpreted his claim. And numerous people were charged with the “lying under oath” that you are denying.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 12:42:45 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 26 11:03:17 2024.* ...And I keep telling you that it was not an "attempted Coup" It was a demonstration that evolved into a riot. You really believe that those misguided yahoos bent on destruction of govt property and tresspassing could seriously topple the Govt of the USA?? I dont think so. From Webster: A coup d’état, often simply referred to as a coup, is an illegal and overt attempt by a military organization or other government elites to unseat an incumbent leadership. Now what military organization or government elites were involved in the riots on Jan 6?
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 12:56:00 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 12:42:45 2024.* Did you even read my post? I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE STORMING OF THE CAPITOL!!!
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 13:39:26 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 12:27:55 2024.* Another post you cant prove. Only because the Supreme Court (at Trump's request) has imposed such a huge delay onto Trump's trial. Without that delay, the case would have already been tried. But plenty of evidence has been presented; the only thing left is for a jury to decide whether it provides proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 13:45:24 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 12:42:45 2024.* Your brain has been Foxed up. The attempted coup was a conspiracy by specific people (government elites, in fact) to persuade Congress to change the results of the election through fraudulent means. They exhorted people to commit perjury (to the effect that there was election fraud, when there wasn't).
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 16:33:36 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 13:45:24 2024.* And your brain has been Lester Holted. Like I've said many times before, they would never get away with it. Anyone who thinks that they would have succeeded has lost the power to think. Also, Anyone who thinks that someone with a Viking helmet on is going to change any member of congress to say your right, lets keep Trump in power is delusional. What is true is that no election fraud has never been proven. Everybody should move on from that. BTW, how many folks were convicted of perjury?
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 16:35:54 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 16:33:36 2024.* BTW, how many folks were convicted of perjury? Of course not. Mr. Trump has forced long delays in the trial. Also, I don't recall saying that they will get away with it in 2024. S-P outlined some good reasons why it would be much harder than in 2020.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 16:38:05 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 13:39:26 2024.* "Without that delay, the case would have already been tried." Speculation. If Trump loses his appeal(s), which I sincerely doubt, then apply the punishment that fits the crime. Case closed
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 16:43:53 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 16:35:54 2024.* That remark wasn't specifically directed at you, it was just stating my opinion that "be much harder" should read impossible.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 16:45:55 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 16:33:36 2024.* Why are you mentioning a guy in a “Viking helmet?” Has Kenneth Chesbro ever worn a Viking helmet? John Eastman? Rudy Giuliani? Those are the coup participants, not Jacob Chansely.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 16:47:02 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 16:43:53 2024.* I’ve pointed out the scenario, and how it’s not impossible.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 16:49:00 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 16:38:05 2024.* It most certainly is not speculation. The trial date had already been set and would have gotten forward were it not for the stay owing to the interlocutory appeal.
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Posted by AlM* on Wed Jun 26 17:43:57 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 16:38:05 2024.* Speculation. Trump's motions for delays are in the public record.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 17:45:44 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 17:43:57 2024.* That and the original trial date before the stay was granted.
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 19:32:30 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by AlM on Wed Jun 26 17:43:57 2024.* So? If thats the case he's entitled to that no?? So when are these perjury trials going to start?
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim* on Wed Jun 26 19:33:27 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jun 26 16:47:02 2024.* To coin a phrase, we'll see
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 20:40:29 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 19:32:30 2024.* No, he’s not “entitled” to that. Most cases don’t get heard by the Supreme Court.
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Posted by Spider-Pig* on Wed Jun 26 20:41:01 2024, in response to Re: 1100 DIE IN SAUDI ARABIA HEAT HAJJ MECCA MEDINA, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Jun 26 19:33:27 2024.* Hopefully not.
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