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Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 20:20:27 2024

Massive rally just ended. Trump 2024.


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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 23 20:44:34 2024, in response to Trump In The Bronx, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 20:20:27 2024.

When I read the subject line, I thought it was about the TRUMP LINKS sign in the Bronx facing lanes coming from Queens.

It is gone.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:51:59 2024, in response to Trump In The Bronx, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 20:20:27 2024.

LOL, “massive.”

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 23 22:53:33 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 23 20:44:34 2024.

Bally’s
Did you all know that the Bronx Democratic Club held a winter meeting there after the change to Bally’s

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 24 00:08:38 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu May 23 22:53:33 2024.

I didn't know that but I'm not surprised.

Speaking of the Bronx, have you been to Tommy's Pizza?

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 04:02:01 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:51:59 2024.

One of my friends works for City Hall, he was a liason and he told me that there were between 20 and 30K people there. In the Bronx. Native NYers, not outsiders.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 07:35:57 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 04:02:01 2024.

You are just going to aggravate him by stating facts.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 08:10:09 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 04:02:01 2024.

LOL!

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 08:15:09 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 08:10:09 2024.

I guess I was lied to? P.S., this guy is no Trumper, so he has no reason to boost the attendance numbers.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 08:21:59 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 08:10:09 2024.

Now...to be fair, the counterproductive crowd members would also be a part of the tally.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 24 09:33:09 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 23 20:51:59 2024.

Were you there?


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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 24 09:41:43 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 24 00:08:38 2024.

Maybe surprisingly no. I’ve had Patricia’s and Loretta’s which were both good.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 10:19:00 2024, in response to Trump In The Bronx, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 20:20:27 2024.

The whole thing was broadcast over WABC 77.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 10:25:49 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 10:19:00 2024.

As it was on FOX and newsmax

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 24 10:35:13 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 10:19:00 2024.

You're still not going to vote for him?

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 10:37:04 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 10:25:49 2024.

I don't watch any cable news, actually very little TV except reruns of Combat, 12 O'Clock High, & the Drew Carey Show.
I was stuck in bumper to bumper traffic trying to get to a pool tournament in Queens and heard most of it though.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 10:40:09 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 10:37:04 2024.

I'm sorry that I was not home to watch it (serius carries Fox news). I would have watched MSNBC to see maddow pop a blood vessel.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri May 24 10:46:39 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 24 10:35:13 2024.

Of course. He's joining Spider-pig in voting for Biden who was just revealed giving 50million dollars to pro-hamas marchers via the EPA.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 11:04:08 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 08:15:09 2024.

No, he was just mistaken.

And in any event I didn’t know that the event was only open to Bronx residents.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 11:05:10 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 08:21:59 2024.

Really? I wonder what percentage of people were there to protest it.

IMO going to one of these things just to protest it is really a loser activity.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 11:06:16 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 11:04:08 2024.

LOL

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Bob Andersen on Fri May 24 11:57:36 2024, in response to Trump In The Bronx, posted by Train Dude on Thu May 23 20:20:27 2024.

Does anyone know the REAL size of the crowd? Some say 3,000; some say 150,000. It seems that everyone distorts the facts to suit their narrative.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 12:18:23 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 11:05:10 2024.

Being a liberal socialist democRAT is a loser existenc.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Train Dude on Fri May 24 12:22:21 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Bob Andersen on Fri May 24 11:57:36 2024.

Estimates are all over the place but best guess it was in the thousands. I'd say that the entusiasm of the crowd was impressive but according to governess Hoople, he was just wasting his time. I guess that's why she avoids going there.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:49:14 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 24 09:33:09 2024.

The "progressive" sites are using a helicopter image of the crowd, where it looked like there was about 3,000 people there. Just one small problem...The flyby was at 1100 in the morning, 7 hours before he spoke!

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 24 12:49:41 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:49:14 2024.

Hahaha

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:52:15 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 11:04:08 2024.

He does this for a living. All events, protests, concerts in the parks, parades, NYE Times Square... 20 to 30 K is a BIG variance, wouldn't you say?

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:56:30 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Bob Andersen on Fri May 24 11:57:36 2024.

My friend who works for City Hall was there in an official capacity, he told me that he estimated 20 to 30K. That's even a big leeway in the numbers. Who really knows, I wasn't there

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Fri May 24 13:19:23 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri May 24 10:46:39 2024.

Maybe he changed his mind like me. And is your name Jeff Rosen?

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:21:09 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:52:15 2024.

That doesn’t make him good at counting crowds.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:02:55 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 12:52:15 2024.

So you think this is 20K people, just because your friend says it is?


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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 18:06:18 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 13:21:09 2024.

Were we there? I wasn't. Was a professional working the event there? Yes. Whether there were 1000 or 150000 people were there, Trump did good.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 18:11:19 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:02:55 2024.

Those videos were shot hours before the beginning. Even the caption said they were massing

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri May 24 18:17:49 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:02:55 2024.

Estimating crowd sizes for unticketed events is quite complicated, not least because depending on who's doing the estimating there's usually some incentive to exaggerate or minimize the actual size. In addition, when people are standing rather than seated a crowd is likely to be in flux, making estimates even more inaccurate.

Even non-controversial events can be subject to this effect. To cite a famous example, if the claimed turnout for the Tournament of Roses Parade in Pasadena were really as high as the organizers claim, hundreds of people would be crushed to death each year.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 18:18:56 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri May 24 18:11:19 2024.

PWNED!

But the Post’s 8K-10K estimate is probably correct.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 18:20:00 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 18:06:18 2024.

So now you’re walking your claim back?

Him being a “professional” is meaningless.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:45:04 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 18:18:56 2024.

Meh. Do you see crowds massing in that aerial photo?

But sure, it could be more. But then why didn't the Post show the biggest crowd it could?



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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri May 24 20:08:58 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:45:04 2024.

Maybe you answered your question.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 20:25:51 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:45:04 2024.

Maybe chopper 7 was blocked from flying there closer to the event.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by AlM on Fri May 24 20:39:46 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 20:25:51 2024.

OK, that could be.



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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:36:46 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:02:55 2024.

LO@LM!! The photos were taken HOURS before Donny spoke! To quote Joe, come in, man!

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:40:45 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 18:20:00 2024.

My claim is something that someone who was there told me. I WASN'T THERE. He said the numbers, not me. That's part of his job, to figure out crowd numbers. He not wrong because you don't like Trump. Like I said, whether there was 1,000 or 100,000 people there, Trump got the desired results.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:42:33 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by AlM on Fri May 24 18:45:04 2024.

Taken from a helicopter, probrably a frozen zone once TPOTUS started speaking.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 22:10:33 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:40:45 2024.

He's wrong whether or not I like Trump.

The New York Post is probably right, whether I like Trump or not.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri May 24 22:50:24 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:42:33 2024.

The Federal Aviation Administration frequently will issue a Temporary Flight Restriction (TFR) for events with special security concerns. There's always one for the president whenever he travels outside of the restricted airspace in Washington. Other events that will get TFR's are forest fires when there are aerial tankers, space launches, air shows, blasting at the iron mines in Minnesota, and disasters like tornados. And there's a permanent TFR over Disney World, no flights allowed below 3,000 feet.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 23:18:03 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 22:10:33 2024.

Why would he say 20 instead of 10? You're armchair quarterbacks.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 23:18:15 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 24 22:10:33 2024.

Why would he say 20 instead of 10? You're armchair quarterbacking.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 23:18:39 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri May 24 22:50:24 2024.

Yep!

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat May 25 07:35:06 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri May 24 18:17:49 2024.

Estimating crowd sizes for unticketed events is quite complicated

It's quite easy. You know the venue's area and divide by approximately 5 sq-ft/person to get the crowd size. The subway crowding equivalent is 3.8 sq-ft/person for super crush loads. It's probably a bit more than 5 sq-ft because the police will provide "aisles" so that they can rush EMT's to somebody needing medical assistance in the crowd.

Does anyone know where exactly in Crotona Park the rally took place? It's difficult to determine from the pictures.

There are two areas that look suitable: the amphitheatre and the summer stage.

The amphitheatre is about 250x200 for 50K-Ft or 10K people. The summer stage is about 150x100 for 3000 people.

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Re: Trump In The Bronx

Posted by AlM on Sat May 25 08:31:40 2024, in response to Re: Trump In The Bronx, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri May 24 21:42:33 2024.

Agreed.


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