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Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024

I feel really hopeless about the upcoming presidential election.

Not only are two of the most polarizing candidates of recent times are most likely going to be the nominees, but no matter who is elected, someone somewhere will be screaming fraud.

I remember a time when Presidential elections were proud moments in American society, moments when we demonstrated to the world that democracy’s smooth transition of power based on the will of the people was evidence of America’s leadership. Now we’re no better than a banana republic, with every election result being blamed on fraud and theft. Terrible thing.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:18:57 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.

You're confusing Trump with a non-existing general trend.

Every candidate except Trump in the last 148 years has accepted the certifications of the individual secretaries of state, as modified (e.g., 2000) by the state and federal court systems.

I don't expect 2024 to be any different.

If, for example, Trump wins the electoral vote and loses the popular vote, lots of Democrats will say this is unfair, but they won't say that Trump wasn't actually elected.

You may also get some individual denialism of state results, like the handful of Democrats who said that Ohio was rigged in 2004. But the Democratic candidate, if he or she chooses to challenge any results, will accept the decisions of the courts.

Trump, of course, will not accept his loss, if it should occur, and will keep on screaming denial even after he is convicted of his various offenses.



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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 10 10:25:41 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.

According to Hillary and her followers, no.
According to Biden and his followers, no.


These people have been quoted too many times to do it again.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:25:56 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:18:57 2024.

Forget whether the candidates accept the results.

Will the media and the TikTok-infused populace accept them?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Jan 10 10:27:31 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:25:56 2024.

The same people who in:
2000 - Bush was selected not elected.
2004 - Diebold, he stole the elction!
2016 - Not my President!

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:33:54 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:25:56 2024.

Will the media and the TikTok-infused populace accept them?

If Trump loses, 25% of the public will refuse to accept.

If a Democrat loses (after any court processes have been completed), 25% of the public will grumble about it being unfair, but only about 5% of the public will actually believe it was a swindle.



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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Jan 10 10:37:36 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.

No.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by WayneJay on Wed Jan 10 12:20:50 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:18:57 2024.

I agree that if Trump loses any part of the process including the general election... he'll claim that it was rigged against him. This has been his MO from 2016 when even he thought Clinton would win. Prior to that he accused Cruz for stealing the IA caucuses, and of course his loss in 2020. Probably won't change now especially given all that's at stake for him.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 19:36:14 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:18:57 2024.

After he is convicted? Since you have a crystal ball, what are the Powerball numbers?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 19:37:50 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 10 10:33:54 2024.

Lo@lm!!! We all know the epic meltdowns, TDS, riots that would happen.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 19:53:04 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 19:36:14 2024.

UH-HUH. AND "IF"? - A CONJUNCTION MEANING...
"IN THE EVENT THAT" OR "ON CONDITION THAT."


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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 19:53:48 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 19:37:50 2024.

2016: Trump won, riots didn’t happen.
2020: Trump lost, riots happened.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 22:13:23 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 19:53:48 2024.

There were nothing BUT riots in 2016. Look what happened at the Inauguration! Antifa rooted, prevented ticketholders from entering, etc... it's all on YouTube

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 22:39:59 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 22:13:23 2024.

LOL!

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 11 00:35:08 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Jan 10 22:13:23 2024.

So quick they forget about the man beaten up in Chicago, whose assailants were screaming "You voted Trump" at him.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 00:40:56 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 11 00:35:08 2024.

I remember

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 00:47:23 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 22:39:59 2024.

All those videos were false?

What about the ones at the Jacob Javits center, when Killary was I'm a drunken rage and refused to address the crowd or concede when it became apparent she was gonna lose to Trump? Antifa and sympathize rs were acting "froggy" on the street, chasing who they thought were Trump supporters?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 00:47:35 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jan 10 22:39:59 2024.

All those videos were false?

What about the ones at the Jacob Javits center, when Killary was in a drunken rage and refused to address the crowd or concede when it became apparent she was gonna lose to Trump? Antifa and sympathize rs were acting "froggy" on the street, chasing who they thought were Trump supporters?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 11 00:57:13 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 00:40:56 2024.

Seven years ago, approximately. Forget about the left remembering, much less avenging the wrong.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 09:43:00 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 00:47:23 2024.

She still conceded the following morning. Trump never conceded.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 11 11:44:03 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 09:43:00 2024.

She still conceded the following morning. Trump never conceded.

Exactly the difference.

And Al Gore took weeks to concede, because his court challenge took weeks. But he conceded once the courts told him it was over.



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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Jan 11 12:37:01 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 11 11:44:03 2024.

RIP OFF

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Jan 11 13:00:03 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 11 09:43:00 2024.

Yes. However, we are talking about riots on YouTube

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 14 12:43:17 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.



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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 15 17:20:16 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sun Jan 14 12:43:17 2024.

Love the sketch ChiMo and hope our guys can win and try and restore some order and morale to a population that seems at odds with the current leadership. That said I wish that Donald Trump would show a little humility and occasional modesty to become more likable to those on he fence and some who still distrust him. But in my opinion Biden has got to go and with him that sad and sorry bunch calling signals behind the curtain. That he didn't even know where once of his key advisors was for over a week does sound that the guy is running on a near empty tank.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jan 15 17:20:55 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.

GOOD CHANCE TRUMP MIGHT WIN AGAIN

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 15 17:28:07 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jan 15 17:20:55 2024.

I hope so.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 15 18:48:01 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 15 17:20:16 2024.

hope our guys can win and try and restore some order and morale to a population that seems at odds with the current leadership. That said I wish that Donald Trump would show a little humility and occasional modesty to become more likable to those on he fence and some who still distrust him

If Donald Trump becomes President, what makes you think he will do any of that? He had 4 years and did none of it!

him that sad and sorry bunch calling signals behind the curtain

Even if that were true, at least he usually listens to reasonable people.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 15 20:26:07 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Mon Jan 15 17:20:16 2024.

That said I wish that Donald Trump would show a little humility and occasional modesty to become more likable to those on (t)he fence and some who still distrust him

People formerly on the fence in 2016 voted for Trump in 2020 (and had their vote stolen) and they are voting for him again. Please stop buying the propaganda of the liberal media and the lying RINOs.

And what are you defining as "likable" anyway?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Mon Jan 15 21:34:27 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Mon Jan 15 17:28:07 2024.

I KNOW YOU DO

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 16 00:58:50 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 15 18:48:01 2024.

He was vetoed all the time! The TDS didn't let him get anything passed

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 01:04:48 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by 3-9 on Mon Jan 15 18:48:01 2024.

"He" did none of it? Legislature originates in Congress, not by executive fiat! Read the Constitution.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 07:51:57 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 16 00:58:50 2024.

Like what? What legislation did the White House propose that Congress failed to take up?

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 07:52:14 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 01:04:48 2024.

That’s rich coming from you.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 11:29:41 2024, in response to Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 10 10:01:43 2024.

It won't, but the spider-pig and if he comes back Fred G posts going skrreeeeeeeee will be entertaining as heck.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Tue Jan 16 16:34:55 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 15 20:26:07 2024.

Olag, Trump can be a real blowhard always bragging how successful he is and is full of self praise. Rarely does he show a modest side and pokes a little fun a himself. That in my opinion can play well with the suburban women who turned thumbs down on him in 2020 and even in 2016, though less so. He can be tough and resolute but an occasional rib at his own expense plays well. For many voters likeability is very important and it didn't help in 2020 with a decent economy many voters went for a guy who hasn't been successful in anything he has tried in his 50 years on the public payroll.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 16 16:37:31 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Tue Jan 16 16:34:55 2024.

BRING BACK JOHN F KENNEDY

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 16:46:51 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Tue Jan 16 16:34:55 2024.

Trump cares about nothing but himself.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jan 16 16:48:21 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Tue Jan 16 16:34:55 2024.

According to Olog they did vote for him in 2020, it was just that their votes were stolen by the Usurper in Chief and his band of henchpersons (since some would probably object if called henchmen).

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 16 16:59:17 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 16:46:51 2024.

TDS

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 16 17:45:41 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Chicagomotorman on Tue Jan 16 16:59:17 2024.

It’s called “Narcissistic Personality Disorder.”

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 19:44:12 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Tue Jan 16 16:34:55 2024.

Trump can be a real blowhard always bragging how successful he is and is full of self praise. Rarely does he show a modest side and pokes a little fun a himself

Generalizations and out of context.

How accurate are his self-assessments when compared to career politicians? Think about that.

For many voters likeability is very important and it didn't help in 2020 with a decent economy many voters went for a guy who hasn't been successful in anything he has tried in his 50 years on the public payroll

Fraud denial. Plain and simple. Trump in 2020 got the most votes any incumbent president got (and that's some doing; it shows that your alleged "likability" upon which you provide no basis was not a factor), and there is no way Biden got an additional 49 percent of the electorate that never voted in the history of the country to suddenly come out and vote—but somehow you convinced yourself that happened? Be reasonable.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 16 19:45:06 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Jan 16 11:29:41 2024.

Oh shit, how long has Fred been gone? No joke, I didn't notice. I wonder if JayzeeBMT still lurks, if he's even alive.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Jan 16 20:33:03 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by BILLBKLYN on Tue Jan 16 19:45:06 2024.

Fred is on Facebook showing off his fine pictures. JayzeeBMT lest I remember from one of his posts that he was not well, like Broadway Lion.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jan 16 22:06:58 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2024 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 16 01:04:48 2024.

Morale, humility, and modesty don't have to come from legislation.

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Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Jan 17 02:02:42 2024, in response to Re: Is There Any Chance the 2016 Presidential Election Result Will be Accepted?, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Tue Jan 16 16:37:31 2024.

That might be hard to do. Maybe in a seance.

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