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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:20:58 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 12:08:16 2020. Certainly not as fast as in the past century and a half. Something is definitely going on. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:23:23 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 10 12:20:22 2020. You're right about it being able to be reversed. Unfortunately while there's definitely proof of man made global warming we have arrived at the point of no return. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:25:39 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:19:48 2020. How did it stop with man? It certainly didn’t stop with man and creatures and man continue to evolve every day (literally). Also, all other creatures that exist are just as evolved as man. Man is not “more evolved” than any other living animal. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:25:39 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 13:28:57 2020. BUT NOT AS FAST AS IN THE LAST CENTURY AND A HALF!!
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:26:06 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:19:48 2020. All the riots haven't made you believe in a devil?The Greek word diabolos was a common way of translating the Hebrew word satan because they have the same meaning. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:26:50 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:13:16 2020. Fail. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:28:35 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 12:07:36 2020. No; evolution has never been proven. There are no scientific laws of evolution. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:29:28 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:20:58 2020. To play devil's advocate myself, the fact that climate is changing faster than it ever changed* doesn't prove, by itself, that man is causing it.*Although I am not certain of that, either. The asteroid impact that killed off the non-avian dinosaurs led to some rapid climate change if I'm not mistaken. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:29:50 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:25:39 2020. How do you know? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:31:08 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:26:06 2020. What the fuck is wrong with you? Now you believe riots are caused by some supernatural entity? I thought conservatives were about personal responsibility. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:39:10 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:19:48 2020. How do we know it stops with man? Man could eliminate itself, and the world continues.....without us. We are not at the end here you know. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:41:29 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:26:06 2020. Oh please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:42:11 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 13:30:48 2020. No, the fires mean nothing. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:43:32 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:25:39 2020. Who says? The entire landscape shifted some centuries lots happened, others not as much. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:46:04 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:42:11 2020. They were caused by man.Prior fires were not caused by man. So it's an example of something that can be both man-made and natural. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:50:00 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:43:32 2020. There is science which shows how long it took for certain changes to take place.Like when the ice age ended, it's not like one spring the glaciers all melted; it took hundreds of years. Although I don't agree with Jeff that the timeframe is dispositive. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:52:29 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:46:04 2020. Sure, but many fires that had natural causes would have happened otherwise were also put out by man, so..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:59:21 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 10 14:52:29 2020. Look, the whole point of bringing this up is that just because the climate used to change naturally (and still does) doesn't mean that man can't cause the climate to change by his own hand. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 10 15:04:40 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 14:59:21 2020. problem is the Left will overstate the argument. the war on beef us an example. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 15:05:58 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 10 15:04:40 2020. All extremists do that. It's not just on the left. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 10 15:08:48 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 15:05:58 2020. but it's mainstream not extreme.it's how the Left governs. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 10 15:16:25 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:13:16 2020. Epic fail. You fail to prove your case so you cast aspersions. Show me scientific proof and not money motivated hypothesis. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 15:22:27 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Sep 10 14:29:50 2020. The last refuge of the YEC. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 15:24:44 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 10 15:08:48 2020. FALSE! |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 10 16:26:32 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Sep 10 14:25:39 2020. Thats anecdotal but certainly not science. You are taking a new religion and treating it like science. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 10 16:29:31 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 13:26:08 2020. The Democrats must put a stop to that. Only Democrats should control nature. Not nature itself. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:32:39 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Sep 10 16:29:31 2020. Humans should control nature, it would be useful. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 10 16:35:57 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:32:39 2020. Go stop a tidal wave. I'm sure democRATS have a plan that they'll reveal if elected. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:41:44 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Train Dude on Thu Sep 10 16:35:57 2020. Why not? It would be really awesome if we could actually control the Earth to the extent of being able to stop earthquakes and seaquakes.**Or more likely just have smaller ones spread out, or effectively dissipate the energy. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 10 16:42:09 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:32:39 2020. We are NOT above Nature! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:45:08 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 10 16:42:09 2020. Sure we are. Nature is incapable of reason but we are, so already we're better than nature. And we should strive to be more powerful too. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Sep 10 17:29:42 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 12:06:52 2020. The scientific community once (less than 60 years ago) said that continental drift was nonsense. Now it is established fact. So scientific "consensus" can and does change. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 17:40:44 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Sep 10 17:29:42 2020. There have been many recent scientific discoveries regarding gender. For example I learned in school that there were only two genders and that you were born as one or the other. Turns out that no one is born with a gender and gender is not known until later and sometimes doesn’t exist. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 10 17:46:55 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Sep 10 17:29:42 2020. The scientific community once (less than 60 years ago) said that continental drift was nonsense.Your calendar is a bit off. I was taught about continental drift in grammar school (1956-62), and it wasn't taught like a brand new discovery either. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Sep 10 17:47:59 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 12:21:38 2020. But there is no proof that it will have catastrophic results if not stopped quickly. If worst-case predictions of past decades had come true, we'd all be dead now. Forest fires have similar results regardless of whether the sparks that touch them off are human-caused or not. And global warming of one or two degrees will have similar results regardless of whether it is human activity or solar activity that causes it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 17:51:40 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 17:40:44 2020. I'm not convinced about all the radical new theories on gender. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 17:52:23 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 10 17:46:55 2020. I don’t think that he is. If you google about plate tectonics, it was proposed until the 20th century and wasn’t widely accepted until the 1960’s and 70’s.If you were taught about continental drift, then it was pretty early. Unless you were taught earlier theories like the earth being hollow or the earth expanding, and others. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 10 17:54:58 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Sep 10 17:47:59 2020. But there is no proof that it will have catastrophic results if not stopped quickly.It all depends on your definition of catastrophic. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:02:46 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by AlM on Thu Sep 10 17:54:58 2020. I think that it would have to be definitively caused by climate change. People point to more hurricanes and worse storms as examples of climate change catastrophes, but that’s debatable.NYC underwater. When does that happen? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:12:20 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:02:46 2020. How is that debatable? Warmer climate |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:14:48 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:12:20 2020. Are you willing to accept that fewer or the same hurricanes would mean no climate change? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:17:45 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:14:48 2020. No, it does not work that way. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:38:36 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:17:45 2020. Well there’s the debate. Looking back 100 years it will be easy to see, but when you’re in the middle it’s harder to decipher. If there were things that were unprecedented, then it’s easier. And having more hurricanes than normal isn’t unprecedented. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:53:49 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Easy on Thu Sep 10 18:38:36 2020. I never said that more hurricanes means global warming. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 10 19:06:13 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 18:53:49 2020. Yet the left uses it all the time |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 10 19:30:11 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Sep 10 16:45:08 2020. Mother Nature ALWAYS wins in the end. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Sep 10 20:33:04 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Sep 10 19:30:11 2020. Yep. That's why no human being has ever lived through a winter in Antarctica. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 11 07:16:29 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Sep 10 19:06:13 2020. Good for them. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 11 09:20:37 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 11 07:16:29 2020. Submission signal |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Sep 11 10:30:44 2020, in response to Re: Indoctrination or Education, posted by Train Dude on Fri Sep 11 09:20:37 2020. What do you expect me to say? |
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