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Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020 I still disagree with her on almost every issue but I found her speech condemning Congressman |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 10:46:06 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. you would |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 11:00:43 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 10:46:06 2020. Hopefully that's sarcasm. I'm really waiting for Olog's response. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 11:05:02 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 11:00:43 2020. No sarcasm. What Yoho was in poor taste but he attempted to apologize. What Cortez did was bring the gutter into the halls of congress. I'm certainl th not impressed. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 11:27:29 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 11:05:02 2020. Yoho was the one who brought the gutter into the halls of Congress simply by being a member of Congress and attacking another member in that way. He's not Preston Brooks, but it's still bad. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:29:45 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. I didn't. She took a chance to grandstand on a popular PC issue and enhance her victimhood. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:30:07 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. I didn't. She took a chance to grandstand on a popular PC issue and enhance her victimhood. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:34:11 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 11:27:29 2020. He said it in the Halls; she magnified it in the Chamber. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 11:35:27 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:29:45 2020. She makes an extremely valid point. Why is it that people accused of sexism bring up their female relatives? |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:39:31 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 11:35:27 2020. I brought up female relatives? I mean, I have some, but so what. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 11:42:27 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:34:11 2020. I heard that he made his inappropriate comments on the outside steps to congress. She brought it inside. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 12:05:38 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. Stop lying. You loved AOC from the start, Comrade Sarge.BTW, just corrected your title grammar for fun. (Except for the question mark.) Time to delegitimize "Ms." too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:13:40 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by SLRT on Fri Jul 24 11:39:31 2020. You were accused of sexism? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 12:14:01 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. Did the Bitch send a letter to Turkey against their brutal occupation and converting ancient churches?No, she only pens letters to Israel and gets 140 colleagues to sign it? Sorry, no respect for neo-nazi's. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 12:21:08 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 12:14:01 2020. And he "gained respect" for her for going after a Republican Congressman to boot. He's making bingbong look like a "kumbaya" pinko. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 12:28:37 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 12:21:08 2020. Certain types of racism is so endemic in our culture, that everyone wants to forget about it and give it a passthen go attack Columbus statutes. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 12:31:53 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 12:05:38 2020. I never lie. That's why I can never be a politician. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 12:35:01 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 12:14:01 2020. Did you read my post? I did say I disagree with her on almost every issue. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jul 24 12:49:03 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 11:42:27 2020. he made his inappropriate comments on the outside steps to congress. She brought it inside.Your chronology is incorrect. 1. Mr. Yoho's remarks were made on the Capitol steps. It was overheard by a reporter who wrote about it in an article that appeared on the web. 2. It was Mr. Yoho, who decided to bring the incident into the House. He decided to make an apology on the House floor. 3. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez decided not to accept the apology that Mr. Yoho made on the House floor. She gave her refusal reasons on the House floor. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:51:12 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 12:21:08 2020. This is proof you put party before everything else. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 12:52:05 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Jul 24 12:49:03 2020. what seems to be the problem with my chronology? Did Yoho bring the offensive language into the House Chamber? Seems like you are fishing for excuses to disagree? |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 12:52:45 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:51:12 2020. mini-man goes on offense |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:58:53 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 12:52:05 2020. Yohoho apologized on the House floor, thus making what he apologized for a legitimate topic for AOC to acknowledge and discuss. |
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Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:00:24 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 12:52:45 2020. Who? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:02:49 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:58:53 2020. She could have done the same without using the exact language |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:06:31 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:02:49 2020. Why is that an issue? Would you rather she used a childish minced oath? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:12:49 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:06:31 2020. For the same reason that a Rabbi or a priest isn't going to talk about the cheap fucking congregants who don't contribute enough. The language is inappropriate. Then again, she is a disgrace to the institution. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:17:29 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:12:49 2020. The rabbi talks about people who don’t donate all the time, just doesn’t mention them by name.There’s no point arguing this further as we clearly have a philosophical difference regarding language. I don’t subscribe to the idea that there are words that must never be spoken lest horrible things happen.* If someone says something bad, and you want to quote him, that’s on the original speaker, not the quoter. *IOW, if a movie has someone saying “fuck” 500 times, but no violence, or sex, it should be rated “G”. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:24:55 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:17:29 2020. You are entitled to your opinion |
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Posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 13:25:00 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:17:29 2020. You are entitled to your opinion |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 13:27:36 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:58:53 2020. While Yoho apologized for the “misunderstanding,” he said, “I cannot apologize for my passion...That doesn't sound like an apology to me.
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 13:34:45 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 12:28:37 2020. Any representation of US history they hate. It's just like what the Communist Manifesto says:"In bourgeois society, then, the past controls the present; in communist society, the present controls the past."A never-ending present in which the Communist Party is always right. The USA was founded upon love and justice; a communist society is founded on hatred. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 13:36:11 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Jul 24 12:52:45 2020. What's the female version of a homunculus? A femauntus . . . ? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 13:43:28 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 13:27:36 2020. I think that people in this country have too much of a respect for apologies. Apologize and be forgiven. I see no problem with refusing to forgive. Thus, even if yohoho had made a sincere apology, AOC would not be obligated to accept it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 14:07:24 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 24 13:34:45 2020. Columbus is not part of “US history.” |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 14:14:01 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 14:07:24 2020. And neither is Hernando De Soto. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 14:21:56 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez?, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 12:35:01 2020. I have zero still. maybe if she didn't pal around with terror supporters.I could have liked her. It would be nice for someone to stick to what they know, and fight for the working poor or something, instead of being an expert in all things, and then singling out the Jews along with it. For example. This pandemic has exposed a lot of people to be frauds in this respect, conservative pundits and ultra-leftist tripping over each other to leave their area's of expertise to give us their wrong analysis on everything. I see this in her too. The Sages have an expression for this, "those wise in their own eyes". If she stuck to what she knew instead of going into congressional hearings, and lecturing Doctors about medical procedures......oy! |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Fri Jul 24 18:45:42 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. It's a repost, but it's worth repeating since it actually touches me. Here's a woman I probably agree with almost nothing. |
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Posted by rkba on Sat Jul 25 09:26:54 2020, in response to Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 24 10:42:16 2020. it's not like yoho would be incorrect in any case.her new nickname can be "the bitch from yorktown." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 25 10:59:17 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by rkba on Sat Jul 25 09:26:54 2020. Yeah, but he has respect for her over not keeping it private and drawing attention to herself yet again. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:00:01 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 25 10:59:17 2020. She wasn’t the one who made it private, Yohoho and a bottle of rum did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:00:13 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:00:01 2020. I meant made it public |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Jul 25 11:22:36 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jul 24 12:58:53 2020. Yohoho apologized on the House floorThis is an apology? “The offensive name-calling words attributed to me by the press were never spoken to my colleagues, and if they were constructed that way, I apologize for their misunderstanding.” |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:37:46 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 25 11:22:36 2020. I’m not judging the quality of the apology, as I don’t care. I consider most public apologies to be hollow and meaningless. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 25 11:42:21 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by AlM on Sat Jul 25 11:22:36 2020. as is her fake outrage. I'm sure that she was called much worse than the alleged insults credited to Yoho when she was serving Coronas and blowing guys in the back room. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:43:44 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 25 11:42:21 2020. Were any of those insults told to her by members of Congress? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 25 11:48:38 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:43:44 2020. I dont know that they ever were. Yoho claims that he never said that which was attributed to him. She says otherwise. She has lied in the past about the immigration detention conditions. I'm sure Yoho has told a fib or two in 30 years. So we choose sides based on less than all the facts. Life as usual. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 25 11:51:24 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over, I just gained some respect for Ms Ocasio Cortez, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 25 11:48:38 2020. Not just lied, but acted. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 25 12:11:57 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jul 25 11:51:24 2020. I'm certain that she's well practiced in lying and acting and .....well, lets leave it there |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Jul 25 12:41:24 2020, in response to Re: Hell must have frozen over; I just gained some respect for Miss Ocasio-Cortez?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Jul 25 11:00:01 2020. LMAO! Love it! |
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