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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 18:22:29 2016, in response to Re: Subchat statists need to go, posted by italianstallion on Fri Feb 12 15:12:53 2016. Certainly not! That land should go to Trump. MOAR CASINOS! :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 18:30:35 2016, in response to Subchat statists need to go, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 12 10:52:19 2016. Aw c'mon, Olog ... we know this is all part of the "Agenda 21" conspiracy. You could at least be forthright about where this is all coming from. The black helicopters are on their way. :)http://www.independentsentinel.com/agenda-21-a-plan-to-take-your-land-and-give-it-to-tortoises-and-pagosa-skyrockets/ |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 18:32:07 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 12 15:13:47 2016. Hey, that's mighty generous of you. Would you be so generous if it was Al Sharpton who owes the government millions and someone called him a "moron black prick"? I really think not. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 19:08:54 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by AlM on Fri Feb 12 16:33:26 2016. My original response was accurate. If I have assets worth $100,000 and liabilities of $99,950, with a net worth of only $50 I'm going to qualify for a public defender. Even though Bundy owns assets, if his liabilities (loans, etc.) are close in value to the value of those assets, then he might qualify for a federal PD. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 19:11:43 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 17:26:02 2016. Just because someone can afford a CPA to prepare a net worth statement doesn't mean they can afford an attorney. Stop posting about things you know nothing about.Come to think of it, if you did that, you wouldn't be posting here at all. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 19:24:37 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 18:32:07 2016. One, as an adult, is always in command of their faith, and free to exercise or modify it to the betterment or not of those around them, to the world at large. One is NOT in command of their skin color.There's a huge (or yuge, putting it in scope you RWers can comprehend) difference. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:08:49 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 19:08:54 2016. He should use his last dollar in his defense. That's how the Fed courts treat everyone else. Liquidate and then we'll see what's left. Otherwise he's full of shit.And convicted felons aren't allowed to have guns. So they go first. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:10:30 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 19:11:43 2016. I know plenty about what CPAs and attorneys charge. You forget my background. If he can afford a professional audit he can afford professional defense counsel. Or liquidate and prove it. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 20:43:13 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 19:24:37 2016. That's an idiotic argument, an argument worthy of you. My comment stands. You are a hateful, spiteful individual. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Feb 12 20:47:53 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 18:32:07 2016. To the best of my knowledge, Al Sharpton has never threatened to murder a law enforcement officer. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:49:37 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 20:43:13 2016. Wrong. It is perfectly logical and rooted firmly in fact. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 21:02:39 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:49:37 2016. Lose it. Calls others "hateful and spiteful" and then whips out Al Sharpton. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 21:03:01 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Feb 12 21:02:39 2016. Meant "love it." |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 22:45:53 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:49:37 2016. No you are just hateful. Own up to it. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 23:05:30 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Fri Feb 12 20:10:30 2016. An audit is not necessary to prepare a net worth statement. If you actually knew what you claim to know, you'd realize how ridiculous you sound. And it can cost several hundred thousand dollars to pay for a lawyer for a drawn out federal criminal defense trial. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 10:08:11 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Fri Feb 12 22:45:53 2016. I'm not. Your constant harping on it is only showing how hateful you are.Do you think Bundy deserves some sort of special treatment, that RW terrorist criminals should get special priviledges and consideration? If so, why? They found bombs at the wildlife refuge. Seems they were setting booby traps, and not for the birds. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 10:15:16 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Fri Feb 12 23:05:30 2016. I know that. Being able to pay a professional to handle any of it, however, signifies wealth and that makes him disqualified until after assets have been liquidated.He could declare bankruptcy as well. That could offer some protection from creditors. He obviously isn't in one, since he'd have to show up at Federal court to process one, and he'd have been arrested right then and there. Once he's actually broke, and not on papaer, but through liquidation, then the public can cover his legal fees. Until then, he's just a RW hater running another con job. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Feb 13 10:29:16 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 10:15:16 2016. No it doesn't. Maybe he has friends paying the bill of the CPA? Maybe he reached a payment plan? I have had a number of indigent clients on cases that required a CPA and my firm had CPA's we dealt with who did not charge their usual rates/billing terms so clients can afford them. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 13 10:37:17 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by mtk52983 on Sat Feb 13 10:29:16 2016. I think we're getting ahead of the game here.U.S. Magistrate Judge Janice M. Stewart directed Bundy to present a financial affidavit to the court before a court-appointed attorney could be assigned. "The court only appoints counsel for those who can't afford an attorney,'' Stewart said. Link No indication he's actually filed an affidavit. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 10:53:37 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 10:08:11 2016. This is not about the Bundy's. Your hatred of Mormons is well documented here. My comment stands, hater. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 12:02:36 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 13 10:37:17 2016. The judge ordered exactly what I said: present proof of indigence.WABB! |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 12:07:42 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 12:02:36 2016. If you had read what I wrote back in this thrad, I mentioned that the judge wasn't buying his claim of indigence and wanted a financial statement. Which is what brought about my initial post, which was about the outrage that someone that has some wealth, property and a going (?) business was attempting to get the people to cover their soon to be massive legal bill.You're the wrong one, Dave! Next time, read what's posted before you answer. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 12:10:46 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 10:53:37 2016. I don't hate Mormons. I don't have any patience with anyone seeking to infringe on my rights, and they have a history of doing such, plus they are particularily opprssive towards women. You have confused the issue with your own hatred. Again. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:12:59 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 12:10:46 2016. Very unconvincing, hater |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 13:19:41 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:12:59 2016. You're obviously a poor reader. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:44:53 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 13:19:41 2016. Hardly poor and you are a hater. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:49:06 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 12:02:36 2016. PWN3D |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 15:31:11 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:44:53 2016. Lulz. Keep proving it, why don't you? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 15:32:04 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 13:49:06 2016. You didn't read, did ya. Turns out Dave was pwned. Lulz. |
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Posted by R2Chinatown on Sat Feb 13 16:22:40 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 15:31:11 2016. You do a good job of proving your own hate and spite. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Feb 13 17:25:32 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 10:53:37 2016. There is a strong argument to be made that Cliven Bundy learned his prejudices from his church.Brigham Young: "You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind . . . Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin," Cliven Bundy: “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do. “And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.” |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Feb 13 17:28:10 2016, in response to Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by italianstallion on Thu Feb 11 16:35:34 2016. It's about time! |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 17:51:05 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 13 17:25:32 2016. And your point is? I was discussing bingbong's hatred of Mormons. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 17:59:12 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 17:51:05 2016. As someone who doesn't hate period, Mormon or not, he made some very valid ponts about Bundy as an individual, as well as the Mormon teaching he was likely taught growing up early-mid century.Bundy is a racist and sexist. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 13 17:59:24 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by AlM on Sat Feb 13 17:25:32 2016. They're not too fond of Jews either.http://jdstone.org/cr/files/antisemitismatitsworst_mormon.html |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 18:05:20 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 12:07:42 2016. That is not what you wrote. You wrote that he would need to liquidate assets before he would be eligible for counsel from a PD.http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1345734 And that's not how it works. If Bundy's financial statement shows assets = liabilities, then he'll qualify for a PD. YOU try reading what you posted. Lulz. |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:15:04 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 17:59:12 2016. Rich, coming from a disgusting hater like you |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:16:00 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 13 17:59:24 2016. As I hear it, neither are you and bingbong. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:21:48 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 18:05:20 2016. He should have to because he's not indigent is what I'm saying.......he never paid those grazing fees. That means there's cash somewhere. He owns cattle....that's cash when sold. He owns his home, ranch.....that's cash after creditors. He's just plain not indigent. That's what I'm saying.Since he's not indigent, he can pay his way until such time he no longer can. Then, just like any criminal defendant, he can get a public defender. Why do you thnk he should get any variety of soecial priveledge? |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 18:22:39 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 18:05:20 2016. I should have said he MAY qualify for a PD. There could be circumstances not made public that keeps Bundy from qualifying. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:23:09 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:15:04 2016. Lulz. Get back to me when you learn to read. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 13 18:23:50 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:16:00 2016. You're hearing from idiots then. Gee ... what a surprise. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:23:51 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:16:00 2016. You hear wrong. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:24:43 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 18:22:39 2016. Like having money. Guess he'll have to sell the ranch. Awwww...... |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:29:20 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 13 18:23:50 2016. Denial? |
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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:33:04 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:23:51 2016. You really seem to have trouble owning up to your failings. You are a very flawed person. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:34:56 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:33:04 2016. No, I do own up to my failings. This isn't one of them. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Sat Feb 13 18:35:42 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:24:43 2016. If he owes more on the ranch than it is worth selling it won't get him money |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Feb 13 18:37:16 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by R2ChinaTown on Sat Feb 13 18:33:04 2016. Why so negative, Oogie?
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Posted by Dave on Sat Feb 13 23:28:27 2016, in response to Re: Cliven Bundy Arrested!, posted by bingbong on Sat Feb 13 18:21:48 2016. How do you know his liabilities aren't as great or greater than his assets? Have you prepared a financial statement or net worth statement for him?You sure make a lot of assumptions, naturally, totally lacking in facts! |
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