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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jul 10 22:18:15 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Wed Jul 9 14:07:49 2014. That makes a heck of a lot more sense than Prager's ideas.Jimmymc25 |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:36:42 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jul 10 22:18:15 2014. Prager is a genius and so is Hugh Hewitt.Sadly too few hear their shows. |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 10 22:39:44 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:36:42 2014. Those guys are wingnuts. They must post here under assumed names.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:45:23 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 10 22:39:44 2014. Beck and Limbaugh are wingnuts.thanks for attacking Fred. can always count on you too attack. |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 10 22:47:04 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:45:23 2014. I was just clearing my throat.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jul 10 23:11:54 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:45:23 2014. All four of them are. |
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Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Thu Jul 10 23:21:30 2014, in response to Re: Why America Is in Jeopardy Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 10 22:36:42 2014. No Luch.......no genius. Not Prager, not Hewitt.Their shows, like most talk radio, are a waste of time. Jimmymc25 |
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The Jewish State in a Morally Sick World Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Dand124 on Wed Jul 16 23:57:58 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/07/15/the-jewish-state-in-a-morally-sick-world-n1862165Let's drop the names "Hamas" and "Israel" and make a list of the characteristics of two imaginary warring entities. We'll call them Entity A and Entity B. Entity A: --Declares that its raison d'etre is to annihilate Entity B. --Sends missiles to explode in the most populated parts of Entity B in order to kill as many civilians as possible. --Uses families and individual civilians as human shields to protect its own leaders from attack. --Tortures and kills domestic political opponents. --Has no political or religious freedom and has no freedom of speech, press, or assembly, and no independent judiciary. --Is a theocracy. --Violently oppresses gays. --Saturates its education and airwaves with a demonic hatred of Entity B. --Rated a "6" by Freedom House in its 2013 report on freedom in the world. Seven is the worst possible rating. Entity A ranks 6 in freedom, 6 in civil liberties and 6 political rights. Entity B: --Recognizes the right of Entity A to an independent existence. --Has never begun a war with Entity A. --Has never targeted civilians in Entity A. In fact, it has sacrificed soldiers in order to avoid killing Entity A civilians. --Domestic political opponents -- including even supporters of Entity A -- not only have freedom of assembly, press and expression; they have political parties with representatives in Entity B's parliament. --Has freedom of the press, assembly, religion, and a completely independent judiciary. --Allows gays full civil rights. --Has innumerable human rights groups dedicated to the welfare of people belonging to Entity A. --Has no education or broadcasts comparable to the daily hate in Entity A. --Freedom House rating for 2014 is 1.5 in freedom ("1" is best possible); 2 in civil liberties; 1 in political liberties. So, then, with which entity does nearly every government in the world side? Entity A. And what is the primary concern of the United Nations, nearly all the world's media, and nearly all the world's intellectuals? That Entity B, while hundreds of missiles are launched at its most populated cities, not kill any of the civilians among whom Entity A's leaders hide. The moral gulf between Israel, our Entity B, and Hamas, our Entity A, is as clear and as great as the one that existed between the Allies and Nazi Germany. It is one of the few instances in today's world when the Nazi analogy is accurate. It is clear that while free and democratic countries such as those in Western Europe value the freedoms of speech, assembly, and press for themselves, the absence of these freedoms among Israel's enemies means nothing to the Europeans in morally assessing the Middle East conflict. The news media, too, have no moral focus. They are preoccupied with Gazans who have died, and with the disparity between the number of Gazans killed and the number of Israelis killed -- as if that is morally dispositive. Imagine that during World War II, the Western press had converged on German hospitals and apartment buildings and repeatedly announced the huge disparity between German civilian deaths and British civilian deaths. More than 10 times the number of German civilians were killed as were British -- but did that have anything at all to do with the morality of the British war against Germany? The big question, then, is why? Why is decent, free, democratic Israel not fully supported by decent countries against the genocidal Islamist regime of Gaza? Is there any other example in history of a free state and a police state at war in which the free state was deemed morally equivalent to the police state, or, even more implausibly, deemed the aggressor? Last week, a New York Times editorial put the equivalence this way: "an atmosphere in which each side dehumanizes the other." Here, then, are some reasons: 1. The West has lost its way. Europe gave up on its values after World War I. And the American left, which dominates the media, gave up on America's distinctive values after the Vietnam War. 2. Unlike during World War II, there is a United Nations today, and it is dominated by over 50 Islamic countries, their dozens of allies, and a Security Council on which sit Russia and China as permanent members. 3. The current American president is a product of the postwar leftist morality. Wherever the left is in power, Israel is unpopular at best and loathed at worst. Thus, Israel's best friend today is the conservative government of Canada. 4. The world's news media relentlessly show images of wounded and dead Gazans. Israel, on the other hand, though the target of mass-killing missiles, has thus far been able to avoid such casualties. 5. Israel is Jewish. If there are more valid reasons for why the world equates Israel and its morally primitive enemies -- or actually deems Israel the villain -- I have yet to hear them. |
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Re: The Jewish State in a Morally Sick World Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 17 09:47:10 2014, in response to The Jewish State in a Morally Sick World Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Dand124 on Wed Jul 16 23:57:58 2014. So, then, with which entity does nearly every government in the world side? Entity A.It all depends on what you mean by "side with." You may hear lots of really annoying statements coming out of (say) Germany, but you don't see Germany selling or giving missiles to Gaza. Or ask 1,000 Germans if they'd rather live in Gaza or Israel and see what answers you'd get. |
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Is There a Russian Conscience? A European? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DaND124 on Tue Jul 22 10:27:07 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/07/22/nis-prager-n1864457When I was a graduate student at Columbia University's Russian Institute, there was a great debate: Was the communist Soviet Union an organic Russian development or was it largely a cancer imposed on it? Those who held the organic view argued that the change from czar to commissar was only one of degree. Both were tyrannies, the latter more tyrannical than the former. I agreed with the second view, that communism was something radically new, not a logical, let alone inevitable, Russian path. The czars were autocrats, not genocidal totalitarians. I have to admit that in recent years, I have wondered whether the first view was right after all. First, Vladimir Putin suppresses -- sometimes violently -- virtually all dissent in Russia; and most Russians are apparently entirely comfortable with it. Not just comfortable -- supportive. Second, there is widespread nostalgia among Russian citizens for Stalin. One has to wonder if there is any other example of a large body of people pining for a leader who murdered tens of millions of their own people. Third, there is increasingly little difference between the Russian media and the Soviet media. Both were/are saturated with lies. Anne Applebaum, foreign affairs columnist for the Washington Post, reports that: "Russia's state-controlled mass media ... still constantly denigrate Ukraine and its 'Nazi' government. Just in the past week, Russian reporting on Ukraine reached a new pitch of hysteria, with fake stories about the supposed crucifixion of a child and an extraordinary documentary comparing the Ukrainian army's defense of its own country with the Rwandan genocide." Fourth, to the widespread acclaim of the Russian people, Putin annexed part of Ukraine, and is using Russian Ukrainians to violently annex more. All evidence points to these people -- supplied with Russian arms including the Russian SA-11 antiaircraft missile -- as the murderers who shot down a civilian airliner with 298 people on board. Again, the Washington Post's Anne Applebaum: "This plane crash is a result of the Russian invasion of eastern Ukraine, an operation deliberately designed to create legal, political and military chaos. Without this chaos, a surface-to-air missile would not have been fired at a passenger plane. "Into this ambiguous and unstable situation, the Russians cynically funneled a stream of heavy weapons: machine guns and artillery and, eventually, tanks, armed personnel carriers and anti-aircraft missiles. In recent days, the separatist forces were openly using man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS) and boasting of having taken down large Ukrainian transport planes, clearly with Russian specialist assistance. ... "This is the context within which a surface-to-air missile was aimed at a passenger plane: a lawless environment ... a nihilistic disregard for human life; scorn for international norms, rules or standards." And most relevant to our assessment of the Russian conscience, Applebaum concludes: "So far there is no sign of shock or shame in Russia." Of course, today, as in Czarist Russia and in the communist Soviet Union, there are Russians of extraordinary moral courage. I worked with and for Soviet dissidents during the Cold War, and if there was a finer person on earth than Andrei Sakharov, the Soviet scientist who gave up fame and fortune to fight the immorality of the Soviet regime, I don't know who that person was. But, for reasons outlined above, I now incline toward the dark view of the Russian conscience. The bigger question is whether Europe has enough of a conscience to act. If Europe doesn't muster the courage to confront Putin's Russia after hundreds of Europeans are blown out of the sky -- including 192 from the Netherlands alone -- there is truly little left of Europe's moral spine. Economic considerations will have trumped not only morality, but even empathy for one's own. And is America far behind? Having been influenced for at least two generations by European values much more than by traditional American and Judeo-Christian values, America, too, is being tested. If all we will hear from this president are calls for "impartial investigations" and promises to "bring those responsible to justice," we can conclude that the American conscience -- at least as embodied by this president and his supporters -- is, to say the least, not what it was. On the other hand, there is a nation whose actions -- protecting itself against genocidal fanatics -- are stirring the much of the world's conscience: Israel. Reassuring, no? |
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Re: Is There a Russian Conscience? A European? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 22 10:33:16 2014, in response to Is There a Russian Conscience? A European? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue Jul 22 10:27:07 2014. Moar RW non thought. Take this creep off the air. |
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Re: Is There a Russian Conscience? A European? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 22 11:30:32 2014, in response to Is There a Russian Conscience? A European? Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DaND124 on Tue Jul 22 10:27:07 2014. |
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The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Jul 29 00:26:51 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/07/29/the-genocide-libel-n1871233In order to justify killing Jews, Jew-haters throughout history made up libels about the Jews that were so awful that they justified, at least for the Jew-hater, the mass murder of Jews. The charge that the Jews of every age -- not just some Jews at one time -- killed God Himself was used by medieval Christians to justify mass murdering of Jews. Then came another grotesque libel -- what is known as the blood libel. Also prevalent in the Middle Ages, this charged Jews with kidnapping Christian children, sacrificing them and using their blood to bake matzo (the unleavened Passover bread). Later libels against the Jews included the forgery known as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," which purported to prove that Jews plotted to rule the world. At this very moment, we are living through as enormous a libel -- directed not against all Jews, but against the Jewish state: Israel is committing genocide of Palestinians and is, therefore, morally identical to the Nazi regime. This libel is spread by left-wing radicals and by Muslims, especially in the Middle East. Some examples: On a popular radio show in Italy, that country's most famous philosopher, Gianni Vattimo, was asked whether he would like to see more Israelis killed. Vattimo responded: "Of course." He then added that Israel is "a bit worse than the Nazis ... I'd like to shoot those bastard Zionists ... and [Europeans should raise money] to buy Hamas some more rockets." The prime minister of Turkey, Recep Erdogan, told CNN International, "What Israel does to Palestine and to Gaza right now has surpassed what Hitler did to them. ... We do not accept this genocide by Israel." The foreign minister of Iran, Mohammad Javad Zarif announced: "These [Israeli] actions cannot be considered anything other than genocide and crimes against humanity." Ilan Pappe, an Israeli leftist who is director of the European Centre for Palestine Studies at the University of Exeter, wrote an article titled "Israel's incremental genocide in the Gaza ghetto" on the Electronic Intifada website. On July 9, when a total of 63 Gaza Palestinians had been killed, Al-Arabiya reported that "Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas told a crisis meeting in Ramallah ... that Israel is committing 'genocide' in Gaza during its military offensive which has so far killed at least 50 Palestinians. 'It's genocide by Israel against our Palestinian people.'" In a column published by Al-Jazeera, Abukar Arman, former Somali ambassador to the United States, wrote that "Israel has defeated North Korea for the rogue state par excellence award." Nicolas Maduro, president of Venezuela, and Evo Morales, president of Bolivia, labeled Israel's invasion of Gaza "genocide" and Maduro added that it was "extermination." For the record: Israel attacked Gaza solely in response to hundreds of rockets sent by Hamas to kill as many Israelis as possible. When Israel gave Gaza over to the Palestinians, it did not embargo essentials such as cement. But none of the millions of tons of cement allowed, or later smuggled, into Gaza were used to building schools or hospitals. They were used to build tunnels to smuggle terrorists into Israel and to hide rockets. The charter of Hamas calls for the annihilation of Israel. Israel is the only country in the world targeted for annihilation. Though Israel is charged with engaged in genocide against Palestinians, in the last 20 years, the number of Palestinians has doubled; and since Israel's founding in 1948, the Palestinian population has grown five-fold. It must surely rank as the least effective genocide in world history. While not all Muslims or all leftists seek, or support those who seek, Israel's destruction, virtually all those who do are either Muslim or on the left. One left-wing exception is Bill Maher, who told the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles (full disclosure: I am a columnist for that newspaper): "What I find so ironic is that after World War II, everybody said, 'I don't understand the Jews. How could they have just gone to their slaughter like that?' OK, and then when they fight back: 'I don't understand the Jews. Why can't they just go to their slaughter?' It's like, 'You know what? We did that once. It's not gonna happen again. You're just gonna have to get used to the fact that Jews now defend themselves." |
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Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 00:34:17 2014, in response to The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by dand124 on Tue Jul 29 00:26:51 2014. Why do you keep posting these? |
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Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Jul 29 01:34:45 2014, in response to Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 00:34:17 2014. Because luch says he's an "important thinker". |
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Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 29 01:53:59 2014, in response to Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by dand124 on Tue Jul 29 01:34:45 2014. he is very important.so is Hugh Hewitt. |
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Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 29 02:10:05 2014, in response to Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jul 29 00:34:17 2014. Because he's a stalker. |
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Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 29 07:35:03 2014, in response to Re: The Genocide Libel Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jul 29 01:53:59 2014. No he isn't. Andhis "thinking"? Isn't..... |
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Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by DAnD124 on Tue Sep 2 15:23:10 2014, in response to Dennis Prager's "important thinking" of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Mar 4 16:29:01 2014. http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2014/09/02/winooski-vermont-and-the-dismantling-of-americas-values-n1886020As a talk show host, I have no choice but to keep up with what's happening in America and the world. I am therefore submerged in depressing and often angering fare. It is hard to read about and discuss the progressives who dominate American media and academia who morally equate Israel and Hamas; who describe America -- the most tolerant multi-ethnic country in the world -- as racist; and who characterize American universities as a "rape culture." But there was a barely reported story that came out of a small city in Vermont last week that, for reasons to be explained, really got to me. The story isn't comparable to the beheading of innocent people or as dramatic as the rioting in Ferguson, Missouri. But if it typifies what is happening in America, it is difficult not to be pessimistic about America's future. The facts of the story are not in dispute. As reported in the Burlington Free Press, a restaurant in the town of Winooski, Vermont, population 7,000, "removed a sign reading 'Yield for Sneakers Bacon' from a garden at the Winooski Rotary." Why did the Sneakers Bistro and Cafe remove the sign? Because "a woman who described herself as 'a vegan and a member of a Muslim household' called the sign offensive in a post" on a local Internet forum. "Given the large number of Muslim families in Winooski, as well as many others who do not eat pork for a variety of reasons," the woman wrote, "it seems unnecessary for this insensitive business sign to be at the city's main crosswalk." The Free Press reported that "Sneakers owner Marc Dysinger replied that the sign was meant to be fun and to show that the restaurant cares about Winooski. ... He apologized for the controversy." After "a swarm of Internet comments followed the decision," Dysinger wrote on Facebook: "We are here to serve people BREAKFAST, not politics. We removed the sign that was located on public property as a gesture of respect for our diverse community. ... Removing it was not a difficult decision. We still love bacon. We still love eggs. Please have the political conversation elsewhere." Everything about this story is depressing. First, the complaint. The woman who wrote this totalitarian drivel is the worst combination of fake victimhood, political correctness (which itself is a PC euphemism for "that which offends the left"), and Muslims who seek to impose sharia law on non-Muslims. It is also highly likely this woman graduated college, probably with a major in the liberal arts. Our universities teach non-white, non-Christian, and female students to find offense everywhere. American students get degrees in Finding Offense. As a Jew who refrains from eating bacon or any pork product, it would never occur to me or to Jews far more observant than I to tell a non-Jewish restaurant to take down a sign advertising bacon. Nor would it occur to any Jew to find such an ad "offensive." The woman possesses yet another vile trait -- one of the ugliest in the human pantheon: ingratitude. There is a Somali refugee community in Winooski. These people were saved from the murderous horrors of Somalia; yet this woman, whether or not she is a member of that specific community, has the gall to tell the city that saved this Muslim community's life that it dare not advertise a food she doesn't eat. Such ingratitude doesn't come naturally. It has to be learned. Second, the restaurant owner's reaction. This woman should have been ignored or told in the same social media in which her complaint appeared to seek psychotherapy and/or be reminded that she's free to move to a society that bans bacon, and that this society is free and wishes to remain so. Instead the restaurant owner immediately gave in to this woman. This man typifies the moral weakening of America taking place over the last generation. Throughout our history we prided ourselves in being the "Home of the Brave." The restaurant owner's reaction exemplifies the opposite of bravery. He actually "apologized for the controversy." In a morally ordered universe, one apologizes for a wrong done. Yet he did nothing wrong. She did. Why did he apologize even though he was the wronged party? Because he has imbibed the left's poisonous doctrine of "diversity," one of the left's fig leaves behind which it dismantles American values and unifying identity. Third, the city manager. A feature of Political Correctness is lying on its behalf. This was exemplified by Winooski's city manager, Katherine Decarreau, who wrote, 'As I read her post, her request came as a vegan, not as a Muslim.'" This comment is breathtaking in its mendacity. The complaining woman described herself as "a member of a Muslim household" and wrote that the sign is offensive to Muslims. Yet the city manager publicly denies that the complaint emanated from the woman's being a Muslim. No one has called her out on this lie, let alone called for her resignation. Because in the Brave New World in which we live, truth doesn't have an objective existence. Everything, even truth, is relative. When leftism (aka political correctness) corrupts as small and Middle American a town as Winooski, Vermont, it is time to be very concerned. And to fight back. This means, among other things, getting Muslim organizations to disassociate themselves from the original message. I could not find one that has, including the Winooski Islamic Community Center. And it means explaining to the restaurant owner why his apology was morally wrong, undermined American values, and was not "a gesture of respect for our diverse community." It was gesture of disrespect to the vast majority of the citizens of Winooski who enjoy bacon and to the vast majority of Americans outside of Winnoski, whether or not we eat bacon. Dennis Prager's latest book, "Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph," was published April 24, 2013 by HarperCollins. He is a nationally syndicated radio show host and creator of PragerUniversity.com. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Sep 2 15:28:05 2014, in response to Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Sep 2 15:23:10 2014. You should stop posting these. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 2 15:29:46 2014, in response to Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Sep 2 15:23:10 2014. Last I looked, Prager is NOT from Winooski, VT and probably has never been there. Why doesn't he stay out of their business? Nobody *there* seems to have any great issue about this. It isn't "reflective" of anything. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 2 17:30:00 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 2 15:29:46 2014. Last I looked, Prager is NOT from Winooski, VT and probably has never been there. Why doesn't he stay out of their business?And while you're not from Ferguson, or St. Louis, or Missouri, you got up on your high horse and pontificated about it from here to Timbuctoo. 
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 2 17:35:24 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 2 17:30:00 2014. I'm not attempting to mislead a mass audience. Prager is. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Dave on Tue Sep 2 18:01:29 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Tue Sep 2 17:35:24 2014. I see. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of America (dand124's "important stalking" of the week) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 2 19:59:11 2014, in response to Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Sep 2 15:23:10 2014. You never stand against leftism, do you? |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of America (dand124's ''important stalking'' of the week) |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 2 20:23:10 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of America (dand124's "important stalking" of the week), posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 2 19:59:11 2014. You don't so why bother? |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 23:01:12 2014, in response to Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnD124 on Tue Sep 2 15:23:10 2014. Whenever everybody whines about Sneakers removing that sign, I can't help but wonder— what do they think should happen? Do they believe the government should be telling a private business how to design its signage? That a private business should be forced to obey the whims of a bunch of people who get all butthurt about other people's dietary choices even if that business believes their customers would prefer them to act otherwise? |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 23:05:43 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Dave on Tue Sep 2 17:30:00 2014. And while you're not from Ferguson, or St. Louis, or Missouri...The key distinction is that what's happening in Ferguson is an injustice, which is inherently subject to condemnation no matter where you live, which is being committed by a government ostensibly acting in our name. A cafe choosing to remove one of its signs is not an injustice, and it's a decision made by a private business. If you don't live in Winooski, VT then you are likely not one of this cafe's regular customers, and as such your word means less to them than that of a local. |
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Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by bingbong on Wed Sep 3 08:26:34 2014, in response to Re: Winooski, Vermont and the Dismantling of AmeriRe: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Nilet on Tue Sep 2 23:05:43 2014. What gets me is they're all in a uproar because a business violated *public space* with advertising, was taken to task for it, apologized and took it down. That's it. Private messages in public space is still a no-no. Nobody demanded they change their menu. You can still go to Sneakers and have a bacon burger. Maybe this weekend we will |
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Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:25:49 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jun 13 09:12:42 2014. bump |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:26:59 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 13 09:42:52 2014. No, you have no idea. Chris's word is much better than yours. |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:27:20 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Thu Jun 12 13:39:35 2014. bump |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:28:22 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by bingbong on Fri Jun 13 09:05:12 2014. bumpRe: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week (1193859) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 23:42:12 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:25:49 2015. Poor fella ...
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 31 00:22:51 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 30 23:42:12 2015. Jorge Mario Bergoglio |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 00:23:16 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by chicagomotorman on Mon Aug 31 00:22:51 2015. Nope. Links to a photo of the turtle. :) |
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Posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Mon Aug 31 00:23:20 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by TerrapIN StatiON on Sun Aug 30 23:25:49 2015. bump |
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Posted by bingbong on Mon Aug 31 12:08:20 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Aug 31 00:23:16 2015. Don't know what he's trying to prove with all the necroposts. |
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Posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 31 16:48:58 2015, in response to Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by DAnd124 on Tue Jun 10 07:54:33 2014. Isn't it wonderful how the Bishop of Rome presumes that everyone can have children, but doesn't want them? Condescending little git. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 16:57:02 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by kew gardens teleport on Mon Aug 31 16:48:58 2015. Where do you get that he presumes that? The quote in the first sentence goes: “these marriages, in which the spouses do not want children, in which the spouses want to remain without fertility.”The implication is that he is criticizing those who can have children, but choose not to. |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 17:51:13 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 16:57:02 2015. IAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 17:54:17 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 16:57:02 2015. it is probably a good thing that some people not have childrenpets too |
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Posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 17:58:04 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 17:54:17 2015. +1 (probably more than +1, but I try to fight plus inflation). |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Aug 31 18:03:15 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 31 16:57:02 2015. That is exactly whom he is criticizing. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Aug 31 19:18:02 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SLRT on Mon Aug 31 17:58:04 2015. yep |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 10:42:50 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Mon Aug 31 18:03:15 2015. And I believe he is aiming at Europe, where in some countries, children, marriage, commitment and anything that interferes with your lifestyle is strictly optional. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Sep 1 10:56:10 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 10:42:50 2015. ???You mean children aren't optional in the US? Arrgh! No one told me. |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Sep 1 11:05:13 2015, in response to Re: Pope Francis: Pets Can't Replace Children Re: Dennis Prager's ''important thinking'' of the week, posted by AlM on Tue Sep 1 10:56:10 2015. I meant the culture, not individual choice. |
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