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Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:24:20 2014

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Salaam has been posting that NPR reported about white looters in Ferguson. Well, I went back and read all the NPR transcripts on Ferguson. All are easily found on NPR's webs site. Guess what? Not one story discussing white looters. There were several stories about white protesters being arrested alongside black protesters but not one story about white looters.

You make your fellow blacks proud by lying about this Salaam...NOT! You should be ashamed.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:25:05 2014, in response to Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:24:20 2014.

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the liar is you i heard it on our local station here so there !!!

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:26:08 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:25:05 2014.

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and pacifica radio broadcast it too

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:27:58 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:26:08 2014.

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You claimed you heard it on NPR. It is NOT on NPR. Why should anyone believe you about Pacifica?

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:28:31 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:27:58 2014.

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it was so you are the LIAR

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:32:24 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:28:31 2014.

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Nope. We all now know you lied, Salaam.

For shame, seriously. Emotions run high here and rightly so but I've never seen anyone outright lie before. Make mistakes, yes. Perhaps you were mistaken? I'd like to think so because I hate calling someone a liar unless warranted.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:38:24 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:32:24 2014.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 18:57:28 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:27:58 2014.

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Did you know that both NPR and Pacifica are networks that provide content, but the local stations affiliated with each are expected to originate a minimum of 50% local content by FCC regulations? Both public radio stations and Pacifica affilates hire locals and at some of the smaller stations, they can be truly sad. The networks do not maintain transcripts of local programming.

Therefore the evidence you submit is invalid. I'm not taking sides, but you seem to be convicting when the evidence is not there to do so.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:59:00 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 18:57:28 2014.

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IAWTP

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:01:35 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 18:59:00 2014.

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I was about to tell him that bingbong has done programming on our local NPR affiliate here and there's no transcripts of that either. But I figured that'd REALLY give him a dose of agita. :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:02:27 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:01:35 2014.

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yep thank you

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:04:52 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:01:35 2014.

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Does she whisper when she broadcasts?

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:10:10 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:04:52 2014.

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Nope ... both of us are olde time radio DJ's. She played music and provided educational background on the artists and the times the songs were popular. Our local affiliate is owned by "WMHT Educational Telecommunications" which is pretty much affiliated with SUNY colleges.

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WEXT-FM

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:14:32 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:10:10 2014.

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Here's a link to the station. Folks here will very likely *LIKE* it. :)

http://exit977.org/

Click here to listen, they also have apps for your phone/pad/pods:

http://exit977.org/listen-live/

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:16:26 2014, in response to WEXT-FM, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:14:32 2014.

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THX

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:26:07 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:16:26 2014.

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You'll like it ... about 50% of the programs come from NPR, the rest are all local. Funniest thing about WEXT? It's just a lonely Dell desktop in a cabinet down the hall from WMHT-TV. There are no humans, we all phone in our shows. :)

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:28:44 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:26:07 2014.

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yeah thanks for the link

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:33:46 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:28:44 2014.

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Give it a listen ... it's QUITE good. In fact, SO good that most of our PBS TV station's money comes in from WEXT. It's a gold mine for them because it's THAT good. :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:48:10 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:10:10 2014.

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Anything like WBEZ?

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Aug 24 19:50:37 2014, in response to Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 18:24:20 2014.

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Hey, Archie. Why do you keep trying to build a case against African-Americans?

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:51:25 2014, in response to WEXT-FM, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:14:32 2014.

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Looks a little avant garde for me.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:51:29 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:48:10 2014.

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Probably not ... BEZ sounds like an urban kind of thing, more like WNYC or similar in the city. WEXT has an astonishing variety of stuff. Just hit it up and they're playing pretty much hillbilly music at the moment. They'll be doing something else in about ten minutes from now. It's mostly music. Since WMHT owns WMHT-FM also, the classical stuff is over there, along with some talk. WEXT is their moneymaker because it kicks ass on all the CleanChannel stations here, and of course no ads other than on the intro to the internet stream which goes for about ten seconds. :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:51:54 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Kevin from Midwood on Sun Aug 24 19:50:37 2014.

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archie is a kkk nazi ?
lol

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:57:16 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:51:25 2014.

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It's purely LOCAL in its flavor, that's how we roll around here and they cater to it. Seriously ... spend a little while with it, you and everyone else here will find it QUITE unique. :)

The only other station I stream is WRPI which is run by Rensselaer Poytechnic Institute. I used to love WDST in Woodstock, but they got bought out by "Cousin Bruce Morrow" many years ago, turned instantly to shit and is now a CBS station. :(

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:57:40 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:51:29 2014.

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Interesting. I'll give it a listen. So WBEZ is more like WNYC? What is hillbilly music?

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:58:53 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 19:57:40 2014.

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Hillbilly music, as defined in Eddie Murphy's "48 Hours" film: "Why we have BOTH kinds of music! We have country AND western!" :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:59:27 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:58:53 2014.

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Aw crap ... that line came from "Blues Brothers." :)

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:00:23 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:57:16 2014.

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I can't remember the last time I listened to music on commercial radio. When I did it was usually WXRT.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:01:00 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 19:58:53 2014.

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Or Redneck music.

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 20:04:52 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:00:23 2014.

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None of them are commercial radio ... I walked away from that when I stopped DOING radio. I preferred to either stream from Europe or one of the digital sites, or listening to the likes of the "barking dogs hour" on college stations. We even have a PIRATE FM here. :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 20:06:14 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:01:00 2014.

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Not quite ... although you will hear bluegrass and some gospel on WEXT early Sundays ... variety is the spice of life, but some things get played out faster than others. :)

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Re: WEXT-FM

Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:06:43 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 20:04:52 2014.

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I like I heart radio.

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Re: WEXT-FM (and our PIRATE hip hop station)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 20:18:23 2014, in response to Re: WEXT-FM, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun Aug 24 20:06:43 2014.

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Yeah, that's one of the streamers.

We have a pirate FM which is usually on the air, here's a link to it. It's currently down at the moment, but pops up unexpectedly on a 100 watt Chinese transmitter at a secret, undisclosed location. :)

http://wtru.webs.com/

And a little background on it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Albany/comments/1qeaau/anyone_have_any_info_on_999_fm/

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/albany-ny-pirate-golden-age-radio.210975/

E Pluribus Radio and fuck CleanChannel! :)

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:13:40 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 18:57:28 2014.

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Then why did well over a dozen transcripts on Ferguson come up on the NPR web site?

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:15:20 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:13:40 2014.

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Probably because the stories were carried on the national network feed for local stations. Do you NOT understand how networks work? Local programs on local stations don't go up to the network. Only those that NPR gets will be archived. Local stations are not required to do that since most barely have the resources to pay the electric bill for the transmitter.

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:18:17 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 24 19:51:54 2014.

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Not at all. I could care less about what skin color a thug has; the penalty should be the same regardless.

Say Salaam, do you know who gave the following quote?:

“Do you know that Negroes are 10 percent of the population of St. Louis and are responsible for 58% of its crimes? We’ve got to face that.”

Take a guess.





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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:22:05 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:15:20 2014.

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And how do you know the story Salaam alleges to have heard was a local story and not a national story?

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:22:45 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:18:17 2014.

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Hmmmmm ... good question! :)



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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:24:43 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:22:45 2014.

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Wrong.

Dr. Martin Luther King, in 1961.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:25:38 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:22:05 2014.

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Because it's not in the transcripts!

Back in 1968 and 1969, I did a total of 14 news shows a week for WBAI. Only ONE of them, "Vietnam War Summary" was uploaded to Pacifica in California for retransmission on its other stations.

Whenever Bingbong does a show for WEXT, it doesn't get sent to NPR. I'm merely suggesting, since I spent 30+ years in broadcasting that I know how it all works. It's VERY likely something like that WAS said on an NPR affiliate in California for LOCAL consumption and NPR never knew it went on the air.

If you'd like, I'll tell you the story of Alan Chartock, an NPR *king* around here who owns and operates 13 NPR stations. And NPR *hates* him.

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:25:47 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:24:43 2014.

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Must be that browser quirk you were telling us about....

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:26:57 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:25:38 2014.

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Because it's not in the transcripts!

Or maybe because it was never said. Salaam thinks he hears things that don't exist.

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Re: DAVE caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:30:13 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:26:57 2014.

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Your dog ain't hunting. Most NPR and Pacifica local stations fill their air time with public call-in shows. Those cost nothing to produce and fill airtime PLUS make people feel good because they heard themselves on the ray-dee-oh. Chances are VERY good that what Salaam heard was someone on one of those.

Please don't argue with experts.

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:31:44 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:24:43 2014.

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But ... it's the godhead GOOGLE that gave us the Bronx handshake, bro ... the bastion of TRUTH, the mighty sage. Why not screenshot what turns up for YOU then?

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:32:18 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:25:47 2014.

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Or maybe history got revised just like it does every day on the intertubes.

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Re: SALAAM caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:34:23 2014, in response to Re: DAVE caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:30:13 2014.

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Use your head for something other than a hat rack, Kevin. Do you honestly think Pacifica or NPR are the ONLY media sources that would be reporting white looters arrested, if it were true? Don't you think the MSM and especially the left-leaning media wouldn't have picked up that story and run with it? It would be blasted all over the airwaves and blogosphere to "prove" the press is being fair by showing looters of both races being arrested.

Think for a minute, man, instead of automatically taking the side of your butt buddy Salaam.

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:37:15 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:31:44 2014.

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Try looking up under the Wall Street Journal. That's where it came from...written in 2013 by a black man who is senior editorial page writer and a member of the WSJ editorial board.

Surprise!

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Re: SALAAM caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:39:10 2014, in response to Re: SALAAM caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:34:23 2014.

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The MSM wouldn't know a story if they were in the middle of it. PLEASE understand that I'm not saying that Salaam heard that, I'm saying that it's entirely POSSIBLE that somebody on a local station said it somewhere and that he DID hear it. As to WHO said it and what their credibility is, I have no idea. But I wouldn't be at ALL surprised that somebody said it with a voice that sounded authoritative.

And I'm nobody's butt buddy ... I don't swing that way and I'm sure Salaam doesn't either. But to insist that because NPR doesn't have a recording of it doesn't mean that it wasn't said on a local program.

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Re: Salaam caught in a lie

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:41:43 2014, in response to Re: Salaam caught in a lie, posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:37:15 2014.

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I'm not paying for a Rupert rag. So what was all that then about google being a reliable source of information if this doesn't show?

Oh ... and 2013? Post-Rupert.

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Re: SALAAM caught in a lie

Posted by Dave on Sun Aug 24 22:41:53 2014, in response to Re: SALAAM caught in a lie, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 24 22:39:10 2014.

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I don't buy for a New York minute the idea that more media outlets wouldn't have picked up a story about white looters being arrested. It's been widely reported (with pictures) about white protesters being arrested, so why nothing about white looters?

Because it didn't happen, that's why.

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