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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:42:06 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Tue Apr 8 20:34:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Ah, but I'm not asking you to believe the gospel stories about Jesus. I'm not even claiming I believe them myself. I am simply saying they are not verifiable. So what is your point?



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:43:22 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 9 02:30:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK.

A creator must necessarily exist before its creation.

If a thing created itself, it must necessarily have existed before itself.

Saying something existed before it existed is a contradiction.

Therefore nothing created itself.

Therefore man is not manmade.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:43:55 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:40:35 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hmm. On what point am I conceding that you are right?

And I never said you are trying to impose your belief on others. Read more carefully.



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:44:55 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Edwards! on Wed Apr 9 02:30:51 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
By the way, thank you for admitting your god is essentially human.

Many religious people claim that their god looks like a human and acts like a human and has human desires and human needs and human flaws, but he's totally not a human and any comparison is unfair.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:45:54 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 9 06:23:20 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Your post is incoherent.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:46:42 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Apr 9 06:24:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:50:29 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 08:12:32 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I personally have no interest in debating his long winded rants where he thinks he's so smug even though he is incorrect.

Heh. You keep saying I'm "not worth debating" but you keep coming back!

And then posts posts with comics thinking he's won an argument based on some subjective opinion and view of some comic, in a strip that's not even worth the time to read, as it's just opinion.

How do you know it's "just opinion" if you haven't read it?

For someone who has spent hours screaming incoherent rants at me to claim he doesn't have 20 seconds to read 116 words is a riot. At this point, it's increasingly clear you're a racist and you just don't like the strip because it reminds you of this fact.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:51:56 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 09:26:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Read my previous post; I said exactly where.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:52:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Apr 8 21:40:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
One of many.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:52:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:43:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Hmm. On what point am I conceding that you are right?

It's one of the pathetic traits I have been trying to point out for days to people about him.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:53:38 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:29:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Threats are still illegal, dumbass.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:55:19 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:43:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He doesn't have to prove a negative.

You concede I'm right.

But he is trying to impose on others his claim...

You claim I'm trying to impose my beliefs on others.

It's not a very long post, nor is it anything less than obvious.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:56:59 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:52:59 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:57:10 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:52:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:59:43 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:43:22 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, that's not how it works.
And. No one said man is "manmade". You keep using this phrase, which shows right there, you know nothing about what you are saying in regard to many religions.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:00:13 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:28:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And how exactly would you determine that, Mr. judge-someone-through-an-internet-messageboard?

Because I mentioned white privilege and you threw a screaming fit and denied it. I mentioned that black people are turned down for jobs and housing because of their race and you threw a screaming fit and denied it.

Just FYI— you don't have to formally declare that you hate black people to be a racist.

This is the exact reason I don't take you seriously, you poor lost soul.

Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:00:50 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:44:55 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
By the way, thank you for admitting your god is essentially human.

But no one even in Christianity says that. That is not what the belief in Jesus is.

Many religious people claim that their god looks like a human and acts like a human and has human desires and human needs and human flaws, but he's totally not a human and any comparison is unfair.

Christianity doesn't claim that.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:01:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:55:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I don't concede that you're right that you don't have to prove a negative. I've said that all along.

I dispute your claim (I do not call it a belief) that because there is no evidence that God exists, therefore he does not exist.



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:01:15 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:28:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Yeah, you keep believing that. It's probably the only thing holding your fragile psyche together at this point, you poor lost soul.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:01:50 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:38:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Define "spiritual sense."

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:02:36 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:45:54 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it's a typo from a phone, typed fast, and didn't see the typos on the small screen, you poor soul. You know exactly what was said. YOU however are incoherent.

Not pwoned at all. Of I wanted to debate you I would have.

Not pwned at all. If I wanted to debate you I would have.





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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:03:04 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:46:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Except you are the one many are laughing at.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:03:10 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:42:06 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
My point is, if something contradicts everything we know about biology and physics and is "unverifiable," then it's false and you can say so without reservation.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:03:37 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:53:38 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"I may challenge him" is not an illegal threat.



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:03:58 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:01:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Why?


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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 9 13:04:01 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:01:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
His claim is not that God doesn't exist, but rather that it's unreasonable to believe in anything and everything that has not been proven not to exist.

Either that or I'm confusing his claims with my own views.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:05:28 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:03:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
OK. Well that post certainly doesn't support your point.


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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:05:42 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 12:59:43 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I said: Men are not manmade.

Edwards said: Can you prove that?

So I did.

And. No one said man is "manmade".

Well, except for all the major religions. See here for further details.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:05:50 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:50:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Because I am playing with your poor soulness.

And many are beginning to see your traits here.

At this point, it's increasingly clear you're a racist and you just don't like the strip because it reminds you of this fact.

And thanks for proving exactly why I have no intention of taking you seriously, and pointing out WHY I won't. Because I won't read some opinion "comic" written by some slantist comic, therefore "I am racist".
You poor lost soul

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:07:01 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:51:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
And you are a moron. That fits perfectly well by your labeling of people that have no interest in taking anything you post seriously. Since you aren't taken seriously by some, they "must" be racist according to you. You poor lost individual.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:08:02 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 12:57:10 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
LOL!!! You think by keep posting nonsense, it "so must be true!".
You poor soul, with little man's syndrone, that needs gratification from a message board.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:09:29 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:03:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Especially because Luch does that all the time. But since Nilet can barge in here in a few days and decide he knows everything about everyone here that have been conversing for years, he just needs to stroke his ego.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:10:03 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:01:00 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Al, don't bother talking rational to the man. I have been trying to point that out for days to people.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:11:16 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:05:42 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But again, the religions don't claim man is "manmade". Again, that is where you are WRONG, even though I am going against my better judgement trying to talk with you.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:11:41 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:00:50 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
But no one even in Christianity says that. That is not what the belief in Jesus is.

That's the basic premise of Christianity, dumbass.

Many religious people claim that their god looks like a human and acts like a human and has human desires and human needs and human flaws, but he's totally not a human and any comparison is unfair.

Christianity doesn't claim that.

Christians claim that God is not human only in the same sense that DC Comics claims that Superman is not human— ie, they say he's not but depict him acting in exactly that way.

God is generally depicted as human by Christians.

He speaks to humans and shows the same interest in human affairs that any human would.

He has a sense of "injustice" (warped as it may be) and acts to correct "injustices."

He has a need for recognition and emotional support.

He has a big ego and gets upset when people don't like him.

He is known for killing people who don't like him.

Need I go on?

If God isn't even similar to a human, then why does he care what humans do in the first place?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:12:00 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:08:02 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:12:11 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 9 13:04:01 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
His claim is not that God doesn't exist, but rather that it's unreasonable to believe in anything and everything that has not been proven not to exist.

Did you mean that underlined "not" to be there? I think you didn't.

I just thought of an interesting example in current events. I pretty much believe that the pilot or copliot of MH 370 committed mass murder. Do I have any evidence of this? No, absolutely none. My reason for my belief is that any other explanation of the event strikes me as even less likely.

Am I being unreasonable?



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by dand124 on Wed Apr 9 13:13:19 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 12:38:27 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
but the church claims that it is literally the blood of Christ. be can't they just change their opinion on that. are they still pissed at Luther?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:16:48 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by dand124 on Wed Apr 9 13:13:19 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
but the church claims that it is literally the blood of Christ.

I don't know if any official Church communication has ever used the word "literally." But even if it has, they do not mean "physically identical to." No authorized spokesman for the Church would ever say that communion wine is physically identical to blood. It would be patently absurd.






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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:18:46 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:12:11 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Did you mean that underlined "not" to be there? I think you didn't.

I think he did.

I just thought of an interesting example in current events. I pretty much believe that the pilot or copliot of MH 370 committed mass murder. Do I have any evidence of this? No, absolutely none. My reason for my belief is that any other explanation of the event strikes me as even less likely.

Am I being unreasonable?


You're certainly jumping to conclusions with this belief.

I don't see how it's analogous to religion though; we know that MH 370 existed, we know that it presumably crashed, we know that the limitations on human biology means it's likely everyone on board is dead at this point and we know that humans sometimes commit mass murder.

You're jumping to conclusions about what did happen, but the possibility is certainly plausible; religion is claiming that everything we know about biology and physics and chemistry is wrong, it proposes the existence of a Superman figure that isn't even remotely plausible, and it claims the universe was created by said Superman figure— even though we know that our brains are predisposed to anthropomorphise and see the influence of human activity where there is none.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:21:40 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:03:58 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You used that term; it's only natural for you to explain what it means.

Because without a definition, claiming that wine turns to blood in a "spiritual" sense is like saying that I created the universe in an "interthinkalment" sense.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:23:40 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:02:36 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No, it's a typo from a phone, typed fast blah blah blah blah

That explains why it's incoherent; it doesn't dispute the fact that it is.

Not pwned at all.

That you're not bright enough to recognise it doesn't make it any less true.

If I wanted to debate you I would have.

I smile every time I see this. Because no matter how many times you swear I'm not worth your time, you keep coming back.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:24:56 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:03:04 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
"Many" meaning you, ChicagoMotorman, LuchAAA, and Olog.

A racist, a racist, a racist, and a bitter old misanthrope.

Thanks for the undorsement.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:28:21 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:18:46 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
religion is claiming that everything we know about biology and physics and chemistry is wrong

Some religions are; many are not denying anything we know about biology and physics. Many mainstream Christian groups (among others) will happily accept that God set the world in motion beofre the big bang and has not interfered since.



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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by dand124 on Wed Apr 9 13:28:56 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:24:56 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Chris doesn't deserve to be lumped in with the other 3

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:29:42 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:05:28 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Which post and which point again?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by dand124 on Wed Apr 9 13:30:14 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:28:21 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Many mainstream Christian groups (among others) will happily accept that God set the world in motion beofre the big bang and has not interfered since.


how can they believe that and still be christian?

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:30:45 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by AlM on Wed Apr 9 13:03:37 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You cut off the end of that sentence and failed to consider the implications.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:31:35 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:09:29 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
If there's some sort of in-joke I'm not getting, the correct course of action is to explain it.

Thanks for the undorsement, by the way.

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Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals

Posted by Nilet on Wed Apr 9 13:32:09 2014, in response to Re: I hope this low-income housing project fvcks with liberals, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Apr 9 13:11:16 2014.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Read the link in my previous post.

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