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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:11:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by cortelyounext on Thu Apr 3 21:34:34 2014. We already pay for abortions. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:17:32 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:11:18 2014. No, most abortions have to be paid for out of pocket. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:18:11 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 21:46:02 2014. the GOP uses welfare to make hardworking people think they're getting fucked over by people who sit home and make babies, and smoke weed while watching judge shows. or get asylum from Uzbekistan and get free everything here. GOP appeals to people who get angry about that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:20:12 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:17:32 2014. I voted NO to Amendment 5 here in Florida. The Christianist/GOP tried to put an end to state-funded abortion. I told them to go fuck themselves with my NO vote.State pays for many abortions in America. I'll bet that in NYC, of the 80,000 abortions(est) 90% are paid for by welfare, not out-of-pocket. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:21:27 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:18:11 2014. So you support welfare too.Remind me why you vote Republican again? The only reasons you've offered are a vague declaration that the left and/or Democrats are "scary" or "tyrannical" or "radical" without providing any specifics or examples or evidence, and a spurious claim that the left opposes free speech, again completely devoid of any evidence. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:24:28 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:21:27 2014. I support welfare but do think it's fucked up that we give asylum and welfare to tens-of-thousands every year.Do you know who was President when the Boston Bombing Brothers came here from Chechnya? BUSH!!!! I don't mind blacks on welfare, or white trash, but immigrants have it too good. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:25:03 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:20:12 2014. The Hyde Amendment specifically forbids federal money from paying for abortion and only 17 states are willing to chip in.The vast majority of abortions are paid for out of pocket, or by charities specifically dedicated to helping women, which is still private money. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:26:52 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:24:28 2014. I don't mind blacks on welfare, or white trash, but immigrants have it too good.Ah. Racism. The motivating factor behind something like 90% of Republican votes. A slightly more limited form of racism than the all-out white supremacy that the Good Ole Boys espouse, but racism nonetheless. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:28:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:25:03 2014. Why did Amendment 5 make the ballot here in Florida?I'm not saying federal money pays for abortion, but somehow someway tax dollars are paying for abortion. Who pays for all the abortions in NYC? What percentage of those woman are on welfare? 90%? They don't pay. We somehow do and it's fine with me. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:28:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:25:03 2014. Why did Amendment 5 make the ballot here in Florida?I'm not saying federal money pays for abortion, but somehow someway tax dollars are paying for abortion. Who pays for all the abortions in NYC? What percentage of those woman are on welfare? 90%? They don't pay. We somehow do and it's fine with me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:29:19 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:28:18 2014. Who pays for all the abortions in NYC? What percentage of those woman are on welfare? 90%? They don't pay.Yeah, you're gonna need to provide some evidence for this one. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:30:24 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:26:52 2014. That's not racism.I just don't see why we need to jack up so many immigrants on welfare. What obligation do we have to Chechnya, Uzbekistan, Somalia, etc........to give their citizens free food and medicaid in America? Makes no sense. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:32:40 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:30:24 2014. Well, first of all, we don't.We should, though. If they move to America, they're American. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Apr 3 22:36:05 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:32:40 2014. What's a Nilet? Anything to do with Niles? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:39:12 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Apr 3 22:36:05 2014. ???? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:41:23 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:32:40 2014. We give Asylum to many every year and have been doing so since Bush, probably even before him.I don't know why but we do. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 3 22:43:59 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:28:18 2014. Maybe because people in Florida are fucktards and can't read? |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:46:48 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:09:59 2014. a woman deserves the right to have an abortion. the right to be a mother or not to be. a man should have that right too.He does have that right! I've already explained as much to you here and here. No one has ever claimed that men should not have the right not to become a father. he should be informed before month three of the pregnancy that the woman is pregnant. Why is it any of his business? if he says he does not want to be a dad, the woman is informed that she can have an abortion or raise the kid on her own. And if the woman says she doesn't want to be a mom, she can inform the man that he'll have to raise the kid on his own? The man chose to be a dad when he had unprotected sex. He can't undo that after the fact. a man should have some rights too. Yeah, right. If a woman has the right to control her body, then a man should have the right to control a woman's body as well. By the way, that was pretty sly of you, referring to yourself as "pro-abortion" rather than "pro-choice." I should have picked up on that a lot quicker— "pro-abortion" is a shibboleth of the extreme right much like "Democrat party." Why you vote Republican becomes more and more obvious. You're a racist and you're a sexist. You're not as extreme a racist as the white supremacist Republican base, and you're not as extreme a sexist as the pro-rape Republican base, but you are a racist and a sexist nonetheless— and you'd much rather vote for the party that's a bit too bigoted for your taste - those would be the "imperfections" you mentioned earlier - than vote for a party that, in theory at least, opposes bigotry outright. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:47:19 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 3 22:43:59 2014. ?They voted against tax funded abortion. Idiots for doing so. We need more abortions here. Too much crime. Abortion has done wonders for NYC. AMerica can learn from them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:47:46 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:41:23 2014. Who cares? Everyone has a human right to travel freely. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Apr 3 22:49:20 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:47:19 2014. That's OK ... dumbasses will be making up the difference in paying out welfare which of course is a lot cheaper than paying for an abortion. 18 years worth of paying in most states. Have I ever mentioned before that republicans can't math? :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:49:57 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:46:48 2014. Pro-abortion because it's an abortion, not a "choice". People who call it "pro-choice" instead of an abortion are losing the argument and giving in to those who threaten the practice.How is it sexist to support abortion? I just think the man deserves some say in the matter too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:52:22 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:47:46 2014. but we should have no financial obligation to citizens from other countries.Asylum is a joke. Especially the Uzbek Muslims. Who are they getting asylum from? They get all jacked up on benefits Americans have to fight for. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 3 23:05:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:49:57 2014. Wrong. The man cannot interfere with decisions about a woman's body. She takes on a lot of risk in pregnancy, which could affect her life from then on. Nobody has the right o interfere with her choices. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 23:09:52 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:49:57 2014. Pro-abortion because it's an abortion, not a "choice".It is a choice— the choice of whether or not to reproduce. The pro-choice movement started as a coalition of white women who wanted the right to an abortion and black women who wanted the right to not have abortions or sterilisations performed on them against their will. The entire basis of the pro-choice position is that the right to bodily autonomy is absolute and applies to women as well as men— women own their bodies, and therefore have the right to choose what happens to and in them. How is it sexist to support abortion? I just think the man deserves some say in the matter too. Your sexist lack of self-awareness is so glaring I think I'm going to be blinded. OK, let's see if I can explain this in terms simple enough for you to comprehend. On the abortion "issue," there are two sides. The pro-choice side believes that women are people who have a right to control their own bodies, and therefore should have the right to decide whether or not to have an abortion. The anti-choice side (which calls itself the "pro-life" side) believes that women are property and that men have the right to control their bodies, and therefore men should have the right to decide whether or not the women they "own" will have an abortion. Your position appears to line up with the latter side. The only distinction is that you're willing to state your actual belief out loud— most anti-choicers pretend they actually think abortion is inherently bad in and of itself because they know explicitly advocating male ownership of female bodies is not going to win them a lot of support. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 23:14:14 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Apr 3 22:52:22 2014. but we should have no financial obligation to citizens from other countries.What does their country of origin have to do with anything? If they move to America, they're as American as any of us. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:07:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 20:38:29 2014. Not all of them are just sexists. Most of them are religious fanatics too. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:13:47 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by bingbong on Thu Apr 3 23:05:15 2014. I didn't say he did. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:26:59 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:32:40 2014. Just moving to America isn't enough. They should be naturalized. Then they're Americans. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:28:05 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Thu Apr 3 22:47:46 2014. FALSE |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:30:57 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:26:59 2014. We can't afford the expense. Asylum money can be used elsewhere. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:32:37 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:30:57 2014. Yeah, we don't need more immigrants from places like Chechnya. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:37:53 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:07:18 2014. Not all of them are just sexists. Most of them are religious fanatics too.That's incorrect. Most of us who vote Republican are not sexist. And we're certainly not all religious. I'll bet many church going Latinos are Democrats. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 01:40:08 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:30:57 2014. What asylum money? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 01:40:27 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 01:28:05 2014. TRUE |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 4 01:45:15 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 01:40:08 2014. The money that used to go here:
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 4 01:46:20 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:37:53 2014. How many republicans do their own laundry? :) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:50:21 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 4 01:46:20 2014. I do. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Apr 4 01:52:59 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:50:21 2014. Might be worthy of a survey and a list. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:32:06 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 01:37:53 2014. We were talking about abortion. Quit changing the subject. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:32:30 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 01:40:27 2014. No |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 02:39:35 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:32:30 2014. Yes |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 02:54:14 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:32:06 2014. That's not changing the subject.You're impression of conservatives is not accurate. There are many sexist Democrats too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:56:28 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 02:39:35 2014. No |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:57:23 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 02:54:14 2014. What impression of conservatives?Oh and it's "your." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 03:05:11 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:57:23 2014. Oh and it's "your."I know. I miss being corrected by you. It's a tradition. You attacked Republicans as being sexist and religious. We're really not. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 03:15:32 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 4 02:56:28 2014. *ding*Sorry, the five minutes is up. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 03:17:18 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 03:05:11 2014. You attacked Republicans as being sexist and religious. We're really not.Well, you personally are. And all the Republicans in office are. And all the Republicans who call into talk radio shows are. Yeah, you'd have a hard time finding a Republican who isn't sexist. You might find a couple who aren't religious, but that's not exactly common either. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 03:26:31 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 03:17:18 2014. Well, you personally are. And all the Republicans in office are. And all the Republicans who call into talk radio shows are.Yeah, you'd have a hard time finding a Republican who isn't sexist. You might find a couple who aren't religious, but that's not exactly common either. I can't believe I'm being trollattacked by Nilet. Are you Olog-hai? That guy must have a second handle. I'm not a sexist nor am I religious. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Apr 4 03:32:38 2014, in response to Re: US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 4 03:26:31 2014. I can't believe I'm being trollattacked by Nilet.Are you Olog-hai? That guy must have a second handle. BWAHAHAHA! You seriously need to take a peek at the vast amounts of vitriol and pies that Olog and I throw at each other. I'm not a sexist nor am I religious. You copped to being a sexist here when you claimed that men should control women's reproductive decisions, as well as several other places in this thread. I didn't say you personally were religious, I said that many to most Republicans are. |
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