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Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:15:05 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:09:20 2014. 4. "Nonreligious assembly or institution" includes all membership15 organizations, theaters, cultural centers, dance halls, fraternal orders, 16 amphitheaters and places of public assembly regardless of size that a 17 government or political subdivision allows to meet in a zoning district by 18 code or ordinance or by practice |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:15:42 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 16:15:05 2014. How do you interpret that as you described it? |
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Re: OLOG-HAI IS A HOMOPHOBE |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:16:15 2014, in response to dand124 is a homophobe, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:26:47 2014. I DOUBT YOU'LL EVER KNOW WHAT ONE IS......ASS CLOWN. |
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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062 |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:16:59 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Dave on Tue Feb 25 06:33:21 2014. Yeah, we need more like SB1062. I'm not one rallying against what McCain and Flake are saying. It's because of the folks you keep company with on the republican side that bills like this are even conceivable. The right wing judges continue to erode the rights of the people (unless they have guns of course) and you have no problem with that? :( |
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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062 |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:17:34 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:38:52 2014. DOES NOT HAVE TO BE "EVERYDAY" EVENT. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:18:26 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:16:59 2014. All nonsense and rhetoric. You're just fine with gays bullying people that want to be left alone. >:( |
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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062 |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:20:25 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Feb 25 14:45:44 2014. How many Christian bakeries do you know? and explain to me when the word "Christian" become a label of hate? eh? not all Christians profess hatred towards Gays. There are Christian churches that are open to the LGBT community and have been for quite some time. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:21:25 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:20:25 2014. How many Christian bakeries do you know?explain to me when the word "Christian" become a label of hate? Since militant gays who imitate the Bolsheviks made it one. |
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Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:22:02 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS ANTI-GAY, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:33:40 2014. YOU'RE A PROFESSIONAL ASSCLOWN. |
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Re: streetcarhomophobe is a homophobe |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:22:16 2014, in response to Re: OLOG-HAI IS A HOMOPHOBE, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:16:15 2014. You're one. You hate gays so much, you want to make them into oppressors. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:22:34 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 14:50:38 2014. IT IS....READ THE LAW....STUPID. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:34:43 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:15:42 2014. Lines 17-23 on the last page extend this protection without regard for if the government is a party combined with lines 8-11 and 19-21 of the previous page allow a private party (any individual) to discriminate against he/she finds contrary to the practice or observance of his/her personal belief system. It need not be part of a larger religion, just as long as he/she believes that way. Also the use of the word "including" on Line 9 of the 2nd of 3 pages means that what is listed after is not meant to be exhaustive of what is entitled to protection. If I find that you offend my practice or observance of religion even if nobody else feels that way I can refuse to serve you and claim protection. What is to stop someone from saying that serving blacks offends their religion? How about if someone says serving Jews offends their religion? As it is worded, technically they have cover under this law |
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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 16:37:04 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 12:04:04 2014. Proof positive you have no brain to speak of.why don't you let TONY type for you ? I'm sure He has at least a grade school education...enough to send out harassing and threatening emails. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 25 16:37:30 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:34:43 2014. Now Georgia has become the latest state to jump on the 'religious freedom' bandwagon. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 16:39:13 2014, in response to Re: HTML error, posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:22:34 2014. Nope, not true. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 16:39:44 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:34:43 2014. I can imagine an ultra-literal Christian who feels that anyone who isn't the same is doomed to eternal damnation. Such a person might be horrified to see a fellow fundamentalist Christian marrying a Catholic or a Jew. It's their right to weep for those lost souls if they wish, but they really have no business catering weddings. |
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Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062 |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 16:40:08 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 11:55:07 2014. Awhhh..are you still sore cause my son played you?Hey he TOLD YOU from the jump street who he was..you didnt believe him..now you whine about it? LOL..whining bitch. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 16:41:33 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 16:37:04 2014. Like I said, when you can't come up with an intellectual response, you resort to physical violence. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:43:49 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:34:43 2014. False argument.So you are okay with militant gays targeting certain religions? How do you propose actually protecting them from such harassment? They're already being attacked by judges in Oregon. Now reinterpret this in light of the free exercise clause. |
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Re: OLOG-HAI IS A HOMOPHOBE, |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:44:50 2014, in response to Re: streetcarhomophobe is a homophobe, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:22:16 2014. You really have no clue who you are talking to or about. But that is like the majority of your posts.....clueless. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:46:01 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:43:49 2014. How are militant gays targeting certain religions? I would have to see precisely what harassment you claim in order to determine the constitutional remedy |
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Re: olog-HAI IS STILL anti-gay |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Tue Feb 25 16:47:24 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:13:46 2014. "The Nazis didn't use religion to go after gays, streetcarnazi."IF YOU DON'T SEE THE PARALLELS HERE....THEN THAT REALLY MAKES YOU STUPID.........RELIGION WAS USED AGAINST THE JEWS.... "And it seems you want gays to have the right to harass people over their religious views. Which is an anti-gay viewpoint." (IGNORANT POST) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:48:50 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 11:53:46 2014. Welllll ... there's REAL Christians and then there's the ones YOU side with. You see? Christians don't hate the SINNER. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:51:48 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 12:06:44 2014. OK ... I'll bite. How can Obamacare POSSIBLY be against Christian teachings? :( |
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Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:55:08 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 11:51:40 2014. These guys claim to be Christians too ... |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Feb 25 16:59:15 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:43:49 2014. OK, suppose a Christian caterer genuinely believes that a fellow Christian who marries a non-Christian is condemning his soul to everlasting damnation. It would be absolute emotional torture for him to cater this couple's wedding. Is he allowed to refuse the catering job on those grounds? |
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Re: olog-hai is freeper and a liar |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Feb 25 17:05:19 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 14:49:58 2014. the olog-hai on freerepublic is paranoid about the EU:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2945852/posts?page=13#13 There is nobody for Germany to become a puppet to. They are still very much in control of the EU, as they always have been. All these proposals to “save” the euro all come out of that country. And what principles do you think Germany stood for? They’ve never stood for anything the USA stood for, even and especially post-WWII. They were the inventors of the social market economy, from Adenauer down to the present day. West Germany was allowed to create a copy of the previous failed Weimar Republic, with the USA propping it up (and I can’t figure out why). The euro was meant to cause this financial crisis for the purpose of driving the EU’s member states to accept giving up their sovereignty. That and the fact that there is no EU treasury are the only differences between it and the Deutsche mark. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2786987/posts?page=16#16 I see you don't know the European Union. It's a product of Churchill's time. It's not a "federacy" at all—it's an empire, and a highly oligarchic one at that, that's been out to destroy basic rights (such as habeas corpus for example). Europe united means a war footing, and always has. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:07:39 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 14:11:53 2014. #Morningafterpill... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:08:05 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Feb 25 16:37:30 2014. Of course ... "sodomy with a legal instrument" ... used to be illegal in Georgia. Meanwhile, Dave spanks me for pointing out what republicans are for. :-\ |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:10:59 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 16:41:33 2014. Like TONY CLIFTON threatening EMAIL to me did?Oh..wait a minute.. YOU ARE TONY CLIFTON..! So that means YOU sent the "bully mail".. DO YOU REMEMBER what you wrote? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:11:42 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 16:41:33 2014. Like TONY CLIFTON threatening EMAIL to me did?Oh..wait a minute.. YOU ARE TONY CLIFTON..! So that means YOU sent the "bully mail".. DO YOU REMEMBER what you wrote? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:12:39 2014, in response to Re: streetcarhomophobe is a homophobe, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:22:16 2014. LOL! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:13:17 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:18:26 2014. Heh. But who's doing the bullying HERE? Are you claiming that gays created SB1062?While I can understand that in your right wing brain, corporations are religious orgamizations and all, but now you suddenly have no problem with government interfering in free enterprise with rules? Here's a thought. If a business REALLY wants to be a church, let them go for tax exempt status and don frocks. How about that? :-\ |
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Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:13:18 2014, in response to Re: dand124 and streetcarman1 are anti-gay, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:13:46 2014. LIAR. |
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Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 17:13:45 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:55:08 2014. Oh yeah, well so does this guy. So what? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:13:53 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:55:08 2014. Hey..OLOG buddies! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 17:14:30 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 16:46:01 2014. The free exercise clause encompasses this. The judge in the Oregon case went against the First Amendment by declaring that certain people have a "civil right" to force people to act against their conscience, based on an ephemeral definition of a "religious institution"without any regard to the fact that a religious institution consists of its members. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:14:37 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 16:55:08 2014. Hey..OLOG buddies!dont shot em until you see the whites of their eye! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 17:15:45 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:10:59 2014. When you know you're wrong, you resort to physical violence, right Edwards? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Feb 25 17:15:56 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:11:42 2014. When you know you're wrong, you resort to physical violence, right Edwards? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:16:11 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:21:25 2014. And since militant "christians" who imitate the NAZIS think they can tell everybody else how to be. Have you forgotten that they came for the gays first? |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Feb 25 17:18:20 2014, in response to , posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:15:04 2014. you did |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:20:48 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Tue Feb 25 17:13:45 2014. I don't think that this guy has the removal of "Saturday observers" on his agenda like the guy I posted the picture of. Have you forgotten that as far as the Klan goes, there's no difference between Jews and Black people? Well yeah ... there IS a little difference - they call the former "liberals" and the reason WHY they don't own the Black people anymore. And they're pissed about it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:21:41 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes religious freedom law, posted by Edwards! on Tue Feb 25 17:14:37 2014. That's what the butt of the firestick is for. Why waste perfectly good bullets? :) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 17:22:32 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Feb 25 17:16:11 2014. These are not militant Christians in the USA. You have to look over in the EUEUEUEUEU for those.And nothing justifies militancy against Christians based on personal belief here—nothing. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 17:23:02 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 17:14:30 2014. The problem is Oregon's state laws afford LGBT citizens the same rights against discrimination as race, gender, religion, etc. As that is technically a state matter based on Federalism and the state law expands upon what has been provided by the 14th Amendment it is constitutional. That being said, Oregon could enact a law that removes sexual orientation from race, gender, religion, etc. so that it mirrors Federal law |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 17:23:18 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 17:23:02 2014. That should say Oregon's state CONSTITUTION |
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Re: olog-hai obsession in full swing again |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 17:24:30 2014, in response to Re: olog-hai is freeper and a liar, posted by dand124 on Tue Feb 25 17:05:19 2014. LOL! A few commonalities (never mind some lies on your part) does not outweigh the many divergences. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 17:25:33 2014, in response to Re: Arizona Senate passes ———— law, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Feb 25 17:23:02 2014. The US Constitution is supreme law. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Tue Feb 25 17:25:47 2014, in response to Re: John McCain and Jeff Flake both call for veto of SB1062, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Feb 25 16:21:25 2014. Christian is not a label of hate, KKKhriSS$tian is. |
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