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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 2 00:29:25 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 1 20:30:21 2014. Yes, and there are Americans who die because lack of insurance does not allow them to get needed tests. |
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Re: Olog Is the major obsession of OLOG |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Jan 2 02:00:05 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is the major obsession of Subchat libs, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 1 22:21:14 2014. It's quite apparent. Awaits obsessive thread title change |
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Re: Olog Is s Mench |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 2 03:38:20 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is s Mench, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 1 19:05:25 2014. Because Jews don't stand for this kind of BS when it comes from within our own community. We know what is morally acceptable won't stand for those who challenge those notions. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Jan 2 04:17:43 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is s Mench, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 1 19:19:55 2014. Enough with the fukkin toothpaste shit or do you really wish to continue projecting such a MORONic, assclown image of yourself? It seems so |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 07:58:44 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jan 1 20:30:21 2014. My sister is a doctor - she says she has read studies that compare the US and UK health care systems. They found they were relatively comparable on average. The UK killed about the same percentage of people through rationing as the US system killed through just not giving them any medical care at all.Canada is probably quite a bit better than the UK, but by no means ideal. |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 2 08:04:30 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 07:58:44 2014. Do the studies break out those who could afford health care but voluntarily choose not to get it then die because they could not pay for the necessary tests that would have been covered if they had paid for health insurance in the first place? If not then that would mean more people as a percentage were killed by rationing. Additionally, what is the basis for your assumption that Canada is any better? Those that can afford to come over to the United States in order to have treatment because of the rationing in Canada |
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Re: Olog Is the major obsession of Subchat libs |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 08:07:54 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is the major obsession of OLOG, posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Jan 2 02:00:05 2014. LOL no. I don't put my handle in thread title alterations; libs doobsessively. |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 2 08:23:27 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 2 08:04:30 2014. what is the basis for your assumption that Canada is any better?Here is a table of life expectancy at birth for various countries. You will note that the US ranks 51st, UK 30th and Canada 13th. There are many other measures of health car for populations, like infant mortality, etc. The US results are equally dismal. What's interesting is that the US ranked first in every category 60 years ago. It isn't that the US took a tailspin. Health has improved in the US in the last 50 years. However, it hasn't improved nearly as much as it has elsewhere. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:38:18 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is s Mench, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 2 03:38:20 2014. If most Jews during the third reich, had the vigor, and bravery of Meir Kahane, the holocaust could possibly have been prevented. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:41:02 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is s Mench, posted by SubwaySurf on Thu Jan 2 04:17:43 2014. OK, How about this image. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 2 08:45:05 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:38:18 2014. That has nothing to do with what I wrote. |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 08:52:53 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:38:18 2014. Would have taken them having been armed, as well. The Nazis were all about disarming the populace, too. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 09:00:08 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:38:18 2014. They would have been killed first. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mensch |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 09:08:25 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 2 08:45:05 2014. Sure it does. |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 09:09:30 2014, in response to Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 08:52:53 2014. IAWTLP. Olog, you are a righteous gentile. |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 09:12:35 2014, in response to Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 09:09:30 2014. You're hopeless. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mensch |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Jan 2 09:14:39 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mensch, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 09:08:25 2014. You'll have to explain the connection, because I know what I wrote and meant and see no relationship.A true supporter of Israel and the Jewish people would not call Olog a righteous gentile, he has proven himself to be anything but. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in republican dumbfuckistan ... |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 2 09:28:55 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in republican dumbfuckistan ..., posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Dec 31 17:47:13 2013. Which, BTW, is MORE than the number of people who had their (mostly substandard) individual policies cancelled. The republicans are still wailing about that.Just so you know |
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Re: Meanwhile, in medicaid dumbfuckistan ... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 09:35:41 2014, in response to Re: Meanwhile, in republican dumbfuckistan ..., posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 2 09:28:55 2014. "Mostly substandard" according to what standard, eh? Where's the money for "subsidies" gonna come from? |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 09:52:26 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 09:00:08 2014. IAWTP.Hitler did lots of stupid things but his approach to the Jews was horribly clever. He started out with financial penalties only. Not something that would justify an armed insurrection in most people's minds (either Jews or non-Jews who might have been opposed to Hitler). Only when his hold on the country was pretty ironclad did he sponsor violence against Jews. And even then it was just stated in terms of concentration camps, not extermination. Plenty of other opponents of the Nazis were being sent there as well. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in medicaid dumbfuckistan ... |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 2 10:52:59 2014, in response to Re: Meanwhile, in medicaid dumbfuckistan ..., posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 09:35:41 2014. The standards set in ACA. As to the rest, read the damn bill. It's revenue neutral, pays for itself. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 11:53:41 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 09:52:26 2014. And to add, at the time a "concentration camp" was a horrible place, but it was not understood to be synonymous with a death camp. The term was used during the Second Boer War. |
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Re: Olog has major obsessions of Subchat libs |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 2 14:57:58 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is the major obsession of Subchat libs, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 1 22:21:14 2014. title corrected |
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Re: Olog Is the major obsession of OLOG |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 2 14:59:08 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is the major obsession of Subchat libs, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 08:07:54 2014. lol |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 2 15:15:34 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is the major obsession of OLOG, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Jan 2 14:59:08 2014. That's the most accurate title yet in this thread! :-) |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 2 15:20:18 2014, in response to Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 09:09:30 2014. about as "righteous" as a pile of poop on a hot summer day. |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 2 15:39:22 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 1 19:59:17 2014. sure can..have a go at it.. |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 2 15:40:03 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Wed Jan 1 19:59:17 2014. sure can..have a go at it..say it with me.. "AMERICA...FUCK YEAH..."! |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:41:44 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 2 08:23:27 2014. Hmph. |
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Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. New York Times
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 15:48:35 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 2 15:40:03 2014. no, say it with me, "G_D BLESS AMERICA....."! |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 2 15:50:24 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. In the short term the costs are more because more people are using it, but by addressing illnesses when they are treatable at lesser cost they are saving the government money in the long term because they are not going to the ER without insurance when it is more costly to treat the same problem |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 15:51:20 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 15:48:35 2014. No, say it with me, "Annuit Cœptis." |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 16:07:49 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 15:51:20 2014. ? Your point? |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Jan 2 16:09:29 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. If, and until one has a PCP, the ER is, I guess, the knee-jerk reaction for the newly insured. ERs need to create a means to get these folks to an urgent care center where they can get a PCP. |
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Posted by cortelyounext on Thu Jan 2 16:16:39 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jan 2 15:51:20 2014. I am |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 2 16:33:49 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. The law of unintended consequences. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 2 16:37:06 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. Well, yeah, having insurance causes people to seek health care more. Duh. Isn't that the point? |
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Re: Meanwhile, in KKKhriSS$t land: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 18:06:58 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. Fuck you and your false "Messiah" who supports corruption. I dumped the New "testament" because I hate corruption. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in KKKhriSS$t land: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 18:08:10 2014, in response to Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:46:31 2014. Fuck you and your false "Messiah" who supports corruption. I dumped the New "testament" because I hate corruption. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 18:09:51 2014, in response to Re: Meanwhile, in KKKhriSS$t land: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 18:06:58 2014. You really want to be crucified or burned at the stake, eh? You're provoking the wrong Vatican, rocKKKparKKKnazi. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 18:10:25 2014, in response to Re: Meanwhile, in KKKhriSS$t land: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 18:08:10 2014. You're just upset that it was the New York Times that reported this. |
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Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 2 19:02:57 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Jan 2 08:04:30 2014. Additionally, what is the basis for your assumption that Canada is any better?we'll be able to surpass Costa Rica and Dominica sometime next year. Canada may be within reach in a few more. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 19:12:15 2014, in response to Re: POTUS apologizes (sort of) for saying people could keep their health plan, doctor, etc., posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 15:41:44 2014. That's how life expectancy is typically stated. Nobody knows what future mortality will be, so it's stated based on what is known. As long as life expectancies in different countries are compared on the same basis, it's a fair comparison. |
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Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs* |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 19:16:08 2014, in response to Re: Meanwhile, in Realitystan: ACA (more Medicaid?) to put pressure on ERs, *increase costs*, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 18:09:51 2014. The Vatican's fine. Looks like they'll beat Obamacare for their "called" employees and will beat the useless eaters over the head for their greed. They are Christians. If there is a rapture, they'll go "poof" and you FReepers and the rest of us will wonder WTF happened. |
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Re: Olog Is a Mencsh |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 2 19:30:00 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Thu Jan 2 08:38:18 2014. If you'd been around in Germany in 1933, you would have voted for Hitler for being a "strong conservative" who will "stick it to the libruls and commies" and you'd have called the Jews warning you against him "a bunch of SHJs" |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 2 19:38:08 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Mencsh, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 2 19:30:00 2014. No, he would have voted for Von Papen. |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog... 8-) |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 19:52:57 2014, in response to Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 2 08:52:53 2014. When it says Olog Olog Olog on the Label Label Label, you will like it like it like it on the Table Table Table. |
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Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 20:11:07 2014, in response to Re: Olog Olog Olog Olog Olog . . . the libs can't shut up about Olog Olog Olog, posted by Edwards! on Thu Jan 2 15:20:18 2014. But he is a genital. |
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Re: Olog Is a Bench |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Thu Jan 2 20:13:06 2014, in response to Re: Olog Is a Bench, posted by RockParkMan on Wed Jan 1 19:14:54 2014. Bump |
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