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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:52:07 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 16 16:28:33 2013. Chattel slavery has a long history in the Western world. African slaves were probably better treated than their Greek and Roman counterparts. |
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Posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 16 16:52:55 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 16:37:13 2013. It is an AMERICAN flag. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 16:52:57 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Easy on Sat Nov 16 11:14:33 2013. On the contrary, the Nazis knew disease and starvation would kill inmates. Nothing accidental about it, it was well planned. You apparently haven't done any research on Nazi medical complicity in the camps.The ovens and gas chambers running 24/7 weren't enough to do the job so hundreds of thousands were buried in pits. Know of what you speak before making dumb-ass comments like you did. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:53:07 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 16:11:55 2013. There is no historically notable aspect to African slavery. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:54:16 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 15:57:18 2013. Why wouldn't it be? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 16:56:22 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 16:37:13 2013. It's the Gadsden Flag an historically respectable flag, despite being used by the teabaggers.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 16:56:36 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 15:57:18 2013. Fly it on your boat to keep pirates away. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 17:00:18 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:52:07 2013. Did the Greeks and Romans wage wars for the sole purpose of collecting slaves, the way African tribal leaders were paid to do? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 17:03:07 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:53:07 2013. You are showing your contempt for Africa. The Atlantic slave trade was worse for African civilization than the Black Death and the Thirty Years War were for European civilization. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:07:33 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 11:24:46 2013. Were they able to murder sick, old or rebellious slaves in the same manner, IMO there's little doubt they would have.But we don't know for sure "what they would have" done so it's mere supposition on your part, as opposed to what we know did happen during the Holocaust. Live slaves were valuable, dead captives brought no profit. The Nazis occasionally benefited from the slave labor of their victims, but the ultimate purpose of facilities like Auschwitz involved mass death, not profit or productivity. For slave owners and slave dealers in the New World, however, death of your human property cost you money, just as the death of your domestic animals would cause financial damage. And as with their horses and cows, slave owners took pride and care in breeding as many new slaves as possible. Rather than eliminating the slave population, profit-oriented masters wanted to produce as many new, young slaves as they could. This hardly represents a compassionate or decent way to treat your fellow human beings, but it does amount to the very opposite of genocide. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:16:12 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 12:42:19 2013. Yep, I think the estimates are 11 -15 million over 300 years, as opposed to the Nazis killing 11 million people in just 6 years. |
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Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 17:16:17 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 13:07:25 2013. WUT rap video |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 16 17:22:12 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:07:33 2013. You're comparing operators of death camps against plantation owners. That's apples and oranges.Both slavery and Naziism had a range of evils. In general, plantation owners were less evil than traders, who in turn were less evil than chiefs who deliberately organized war parties for the purpose of capturing slaves (and killing anyone who fought back). Similarly, a Nazi officer in the regular army was generally less evil than an SS solider, who was less evil than an SS officer, who was less evil than the overall organizers of the death camps. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 17:25:21 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:07:33 2013. You didn't read the article I linked you to. You'd know differently if you had. Yes, slaves bred in the Americas. No, they were not treated well for it, many giving birth in the field and still expected to pick their quota of cotton every single day. Children had their growth and development stunted by shortened infant breastfeeding time (there was no formula in those days) and by a generally poor diet throughout life. I don't consider any of that as being "cared for".It's not the opposite of genocide. It's callous disregard for the plight of other human beings. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:30:55 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 16:56:36 2013.  Walk the plank.
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:32:20 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 15:45:40 2013. go look it up yourself assclown |
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Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:33:44 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 17:16:17 2013. rap is music for morons. |
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Posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 16 17:34:45 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 17:16:17 2013. YAY!!! Subwaysurf outWUTted me!!! |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:36:32 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:32:20 2013. 
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Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors |
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Posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 16 17:37:52 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:33:44 2013. Yeah but this is WUT we're talking about so it's cool. |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat Nov 16 17:38:40 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:33:44 2013. Then you are a moron for using WUT as it's an urban rap term.ASSCLOWN |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:40:05 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 12:24:45 2013. over 350 million did not even make itWhere did you get that number from? LOL! The level of slave exports grew from about 36,000 a year during the early 18th century to almost 80,000 a year during the 1780s. Approximately 11,863,000 Africans were shipped across the Atlantic, with a death rate during the Middle Passage reducing this number by 10-20 percent. As a result between 9.6 and 10.8 million Africans arrived in the Americas. How is it that I know more about slave trade in America than you do? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:42:26 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 16 17:37:52 2013. mazol tov |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:42:26 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by rockparkman on Sat Nov 16 17:37:52 2013. mazol tov |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 17:43:19 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:30:55 2013. No. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:43:45 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 16 13:25:17 2013. That's true. Near the end of his career in office, Byrd backed civil rights measures and denounced racial intolerance. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:47:14 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:36:32 2013. thats you |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:48:03 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:40:05 2013. no you dont |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:50:48 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:30:55 2013.  lose some weight.
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:51:34 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:43:45 2013. I don't think he was sincere. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:51:57 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:47:14 2013. well Thank you. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:52:27 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 17:48:03 2013. oh yes he does. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 18:16:50 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 17:40:05 2013. C'mon; don't you know that NOI truth is the real truth? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 18:19:02 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:30:55 2013. Quick lesson in shrinking down images: <img height="310" width="280" src="http://www.eatdrinkoc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/PIRATE.jpg"> |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 18:19:39 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:53:07 2013. The way it ended was notable. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 16 18:28:26 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 14:47:40 2013. Awwww ... shortest streak ever. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 18:34:22 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:51:34 2013. People change for the better and he is one who did.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 16 18:35:13 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 14:47:40 2013. No you don't. You don't know what a liberal is. Nobody really cares about Germany, other than the economics thing same with the EU. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 18:35:41 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:53:07 2013. It's quite notable in American history.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 18:36:24 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 14:47:40 2013. Nope, one hit wonder.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 16 18:41:55 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 16:56:22 2013. "an historically respectable flag, despite being MISused by the teabaggers."Fixed. :) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 16 18:56:13 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 16:56:22 2013. I didn't realize the teabaggers coöpted it. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 16 18:57:00 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 16:37:13 2013. You're a piece of shit if you think that could possibly be a racist flag.There world would be better off if you was dead. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 16 18:58:14 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:54:16 2013. He knows nothing about its history and thinks it was invented by the teabaggers. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 16 19:00:04 2013, in response to Re:WUT Confederate flag IS the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:33:44 2013. No, it's not music for you. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Nov 16 19:01:49 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 16 17:52:27 2013. assclown |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Nov 16 19:10:28 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 16 18:16:50 2013. My bad. LOL!! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Nov 16 19:17:38 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Nov 16 16:00:17 2013. I heard bullshit from you before..but this takes the case.oh..don't worry..i understand your detachment.. see no evil..hear no evil..blah blah..i get it. its a right wing thing you guys have to do not to feel anything for anyone else,except how to help yourselves. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 16 19:18:27 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by Fred G on Sat Nov 16 18:34:22 2013. Perhaps he did. Do you believe Storm Thurmond changed? |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Nov 16 19:23:40 2013, in response to Re: Confederate flag was the flag of traitors, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Nov 16 19:18:27 2013. Strom Thurmond never acknowledged his biracial daughter. Not even to her in private. That makes him a POS imo. |
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