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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:01:59 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 12:31:41 2013. Religion is not the sole basis for ethics and morality. Nor is it supposed to have an active role in our government. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 2 13:02:34 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 12:11:01 2013. Wr0ng.You lost another thread. Now let's see what Scrabbleship wrote. AlM points out that my S+reetie Theory about the 1st of the month may apply to Scrabbleship too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:06:51 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:01:59 2013. Who is this response intended to? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 2 13:08:25 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:00:32 2013. OK. I guess the difference is that in the Bible you don't really have concrete evidence of a given character being fictional. Even if some of the events that character participates in are fantastical, conceivably the character still really existed. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:14:44 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 12:40:16 2013. The conservative agenda is against women. You are neglecting how many died, either through bad attempts to abort or suicide related to an unwanted pregnancy before 1973. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:18:28 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 2 13:08:25 2013. Which still makes it a work of fiction. Like the novel "Ben Hur." That had Jesus as a character. Just because it had a (likely) non-fictional character doesn't make it non-fiction. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:18:58 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 12:56:06 2013. How else do you describe forcing someone to do something at risk to their very own life?It's about control, which stems from hate. It's incredibly simple Psych 101 stuff. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:20:26 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:14:44 2013. Murderers don't deserve our pity. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:22:43 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:18:58 2013. Hate is a verb.The woman is now responsible for another human being and has to take risks for its welfare. A real mother would die for her child to live. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:24:18 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 12:55:40 2013. What is "bingbong style gun control"? Insuring gun owners are competent to use the fucking thing? Do you think the public should bear the risk of the inept shooting up the neighborhood willy-nilly?Mandating responsibility from gun owners is just as necessary. Don't you get that there's a public safety risk involved? How safe was the segment of the public watching that movie last year? Be that insurance and/or registration and training, it's got to be done. I have a right to be free from gun violence and to know where gun owners around my home are. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:30:09 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:06:51 2013. This post. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:37:02 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 12:50:35 2013. Are you my doctor? Or anyone's doctor? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:37:23 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:22:43 2013. That is not something that can be forced upon anyone. You have no clue about real women.The action of controlling another adult is borne from hate. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:38:07 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:37:02 2013. You need to see yours. Soon. Seriously. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:46:36 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 12:53:18 2013. I forgot, Bingbong is absolutely perfect. She has no flaws |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:48:48 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:30:09 2013. LOL! You missed the point too. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:51:23 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:37:23 2013. Government is all about "controlling another adult." We have laws that protect the innocent, and the unborn are the most innocent and vulnerable of all. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:53:12 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 12:56:06 2013. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're batting a thousand today! Keep it up. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:54:52 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:53:12 2013. You realize that in most of my posts in this subthread, I am playing devil's advocate. Not in that one though. That one is honest. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:56:20 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Nov 2 13:02:34 2013. Of course I am wrong. Just as Bingbong is wrong that republicans hate women. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:57:51 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:54:52 2013. Good. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:58:27 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 13:51:23 2013. Wrong. Laws ensure order. They work within a universally accepted ethic/moral code.You are ignoring the simple basic fact that "a pregnant woman has one foot in the grave". There is risk to one's life involved. Nobody should be forced to take that kind of risk. A raped women is innocent. Should she be forced to risk her life on top of that, a punishment after being the victim of a crime? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:59:51 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:53:12 2013. No he isn't. He's completely and totally wrong.He also has no clue about women. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:03:18 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 13:56:20 2013. They do. They don't support choice and self-determination, as American a concept as there is. They won't support pregnancy prevention. They don't support equal pay. They make stupid comments about realities of rape and pregnancy all the time.If that's not hate, what is? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 14:09:17 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:58:27 2013. If it's a human life, then yes. It's unfortunate, but people unfortunately suffer from time to time through no fault of their own. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 14:10:06 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:59:51 2013. FALSE! It's not at all about women, it's about the lives of the unborn. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 14:10:55 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 13:38:07 2013. My doctor does not like obamacare. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:43:19 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 14:09:17 2013. Then you are truly a hater of women. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:45:52 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 14:10:06 2013. There are no "unborn" without women. Their lives take precedent until the fetus can survive on its own, which is when it has an EEG signifying it is developed enough to do so.A woman can go on to have another pregnancy. A fetus can't survive without one. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:47:09 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 14:10:55 2013. He's in a very small minority. Doctors like the idea of people getting access to needed care. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:30:45 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:43:19 2013. Then you truly are a hater of humanity. You would sacrifice the most innocent life just so some women can have it easy. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 2 15:35:06 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:43:19 2013. ???Please note use of subjunctive mood. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:38:58 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:45:52 2013. If their lives take precedent, then you would agree that abortions should only take place when the life of the mother is at risk. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:42:06 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:47:09 2013. Doctors like the idea of being able to make a living. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 15:51:01 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:30:45 2013. Wrong. I think every individual should have the right to decide whether or not to start a family for themselves. A LOT of needless human suffering and death would be eliminated by this one very important decision.A fetus isn't a citizen until born. That's in the Constitution. One gets rights at birth. Since every woman has been born long before she can become a parent, her rights are paramount until the fetus is viable. You would have women dying from problems in childbirth, from bad abortion attempts and suicides from being forced to have a child against their will. YOU support murder of actual living persons. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:53:40 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 2 15:35:06 2013. At least someone gets it. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 15:58:28 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 14:47:09 2013. That is BULLSHIT! obamacare is going to more to retire doctors early, and discourage young people to get into the medical profession. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:02:34 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 15:51:01 2013. Then keep your pants on. Then you won't create a life you want to murder.People aren't always citizens. Do you think it's OK to murder stateless people? I have no problem when people are injured or die when they try to commit murder. Saves money on prison. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 16:06:18 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 15:58:28 2013. Not according to the doctors I've asked. And lately I've found myself being in a position to ask a lot of doctors about what they think of all this. Not a one has been opposed to it yet. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:07:37 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 16:06:18 2013. That's anecdotal at best. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 16:08:09 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 16:06:18 2013. Wow! I incredible! I suppose if one told you they are against obamacare, you would quit him/her? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 16:08:37 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:02:34 2013. It's not always a question of willingness WRT conception. You said you'd heinously force rape victims to have their rapist's child, punishing the victim for the next 20 years of their life for being a crime victim. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:11:29 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 16:08:37 2013. I wouldn't murder an innocent child just because he/she makes the mother uncomfortable because the father was a heinous criminal. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 17:02:38 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:07:37 2013. Still a better sample than what CM has offered. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 17:03:30 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sat Nov 2 16:08:09 2013. Not necessarily, but I'd sure want to know why. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 17:10:12 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:38:58 2013. Pregnancy involves so much risk. Being pregnant risks one's life. So every woman has the right to decide whether or not they want to take on this risk. So risk to the life of the mother is involved in every abortion.One should not be forced to risk their life unwillingly. yet a minority seeks to impose this on the majority of the population. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 17:12:11 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 15:42:06 2013. With a larger patient base they'll have the opportunity to do even better. They know this. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sat Nov 2 17:14:52 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Nov 2 16:11:29 2013. You're not thew one who's going to have to live with this reminder of victimization every day of your life for 20ish years. That's longer than most rapist's sentences. You are really a heinous hateful person. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 2 17:46:31 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 2 10:50:44 2013. Yep ... and yours is old and busted. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Nov 2 17:50:17 2013, in response to Re: The end of my Obamacare Saga, posted by SMAZ on Sat Nov 2 10:50:05 2013. Si! :) |
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