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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 08:07:38 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Tue Jul 2 18:41:34 2013.

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Just like you "reported" that you know your own car? Just like you know that the electric windows won't go down when the engine isn't running? Hmmmmm.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Wed Jul 3 08:51:01 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 00:12:07 2013.

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Sorry, wrong number!!!

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 09:44:55 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jul 2 23:20:34 2013.

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Doubtful.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 09:49:09 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 08:07:38 2013.

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I know my car. You do not. Honda also noted that they fixed that issue on subsequent models.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 10:27:17 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 2 15:21:28 2013.

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FWIW, i think martin started to run away and Zimmerman grabbed him to prevent him from getting away, of course i don't have any evidence to back me up.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 10:28:29 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jul 2 15:21:28 2013.

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Nowhere in this country is the pursuit and hunting down of human being permitted.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 10:34:30 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 10:28:29 2013.

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Nowhere in this country is the pursuit and hunting down of human being permitted.

there is no evidence that's what happened. if you have some you show let the prosecutor, they are desperate for evidence.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 10:55:28 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 10:34:30 2013.

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When Zimmerman left his truck,that is precisely what he did.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 10:58:14 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 10:55:28 2013.

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there was nothing illegal about leaving the truck.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 11:06:53 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 10:58:14 2013.

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There is plenty illegal about aggrevated assault.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:10:49 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 11:06:53 2013.

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following someone isn't aggrevated assault! why does the crime you think Zimmerman committed change every time you talk about it?

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Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial)

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 11:21:09 2013, in response to Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Mon Jul 1 23:47:17 2013.

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Okay, this was funny. The State tried to interview a witness live on Skype. The Prosecutor's Skype name was visible on TV, and random people starting calling into him, their names and avatars jamming up the screen and appearing on TV. It started with just one guy every minute or so. Then more and more starting calling in once they realized what was going on.

I wonder though, could that be construed as obstruction of justice? As funny as it is, they intentionally interfered with court proceedings.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 11:26:10 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:10:49 2013.

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Assaulting them is. The crimes he committed remain the same. There are just so many of them.

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Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial)

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 11:27:00 2013, in response to Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial), posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 11:21:09 2013.

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Here's a photo.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by mtk52983 on Wed Jul 3 11:28:32 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 11:26:10 2013.

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Then why didn't the prosecution obtain an indictment on those charges?

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by daNd124 on Wed Jul 3 11:30:19 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 11:26:10 2013.

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there's no evidence he committed Assault.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 3 11:59:09 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today, posted by Easy on Tue Jul 2 22:13:50 2013.

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According to legal news i have read he can in fact be

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 12:09:49 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 10:28:29 2013.

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That is false. Bounty hunting is legal in every state except for Wisconsin.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 12:25:01 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 12:09:49 2013.

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One needs a warrant to pursue an individual as a bounty hunter. There were no warrants for Mr Martin.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:38:26 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 1 23:52:54 2013.

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oh really..?

Lets hear your take on the event.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:47:06 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Mon Jul 1 23:59:33 2013.

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so..he basically was TOLD to leave the young man alone..yet choose to ignore it..got out his vehicle..pursued the kid..got into a scuffle that COULD have been avoided if he listened to LAW ENFORCEMENT..SHOT amd KILLED the kid when HE thought HIS LIFE was endangered..

what was he doing out there in the first place..
why did he need to carry a fire arm.
why did he approach the young man when he was told not to by LAW ENFORCEMENT..

Sugar coat it all you want..he IS a vigilante.. that was looking for "trouble",felt empowered by his weapon..against an UNARMED CHILD.Attacked him..and when the confrontation turned sour..he killed him. THAT IS MURDER..not self defense.

Anyone who believes differently is a sick son of a bitch,and deserves worse than death.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 13:06:21 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:47:06 2013.

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LOL @ "UNARMED CHILD".

Trayvon Martin was a punk 17-year-old, doing drugs, getting into fights, and failing classes. We already know from his "friend's" testimony that Martin wasn't scared at all that night, but pissed off that a "cracker" was following him. Martin approached Zimmerman, angry, yelling, "You got a problem, motherfucker???"

But please, continue spouting your bullshit without acknowledging facts in this case.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 3 13:22:58 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 13:06:21 2013.

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Anyone who believes differently is a sick son of a bitch and deserves worse than death.

Good luck with that, G1Ravage. At least it's been a good run. May you rest in peace.


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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 13:23:57 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Jul 3 13:22:58 2013.

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I'd better check underneath the planes I fly.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by chicagomotorman on Wed Jul 3 13:25:38 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:47:06 2013.

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ALL TOGETHER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 13:30:24 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 09:49:09 2013.

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I know that your car, the 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid, has the capability to lower and raise the electric power windows without the engine running. You said it does not. You were wrong.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:07:03 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:47:06 2013.

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+1

Therein lies the problem.

Had he stayed in his truck this would not have happened.

It is my hope this will create a flurry of new laws that peg responsibility onto gun owners and gun users. Maybe they'll think twice about puling the trigger if doing so will likely land them in prison or bankruptcy.

Limiting stand your ground laws to one's home would be an excellent start. Vigilantes should not be permitted to wander the streets, kill and walk.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:10:38 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 13:30:24 2013.

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You have to have the key on. Other Civic can operate windows without the key on. That is what was being discussed when you butted in.

Cops consider any messing with the key as a threat during a traffic stop, for good reason.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 14:22:26 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:10:38 2013.

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Nope. You said: "That is an actual real world problem. I can't roll the windows down in my car without turning it over either."

That's what you said. And you were wrong. You CAN roll the windows down on the 2005 Honda Civic Hybrid without "turning it over".

You obviously don't know your own car and also don't know much about a lot of other stuff too.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:32:45 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 14:22:26 2013.

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You don't own this car and you don't own my car. Go hassle someone else.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 3 14:41:12 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:32:45 2013.

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You don't own this car and you don't own my car. Go hassle someone else.

According to page 79 of your owners manual, like most cars with power windows, you can put the windows down when the key is in the "ON" or "II" position.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 15:30:58 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 3 14:41:12 2013.

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Yep. The fact that she didn't think to check her owner's manual before claiming what her car "can't" do really says a lot about her and why she seems to be wrong so often.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 15:42:20 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 12:25:01 2013.

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You did not specify any conditions in your original post.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 15:49:04 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 13:06:21 2013.

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He was legally a child and therefore Edwards! is technically correct, the best kind of correct.

This is why the whole hard limit of age≥18y=adult, age<18y≠adult is stupid. Had Martin killed Zimmerman, he likely would have been tried as an adult. I know that children younger than that have been convicted as adults in Florida, and in at least one state (New York), 17 year olds are automatically treated as adults.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:02:57 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Tony Clifton on Wed Jul 3 15:30:58 2013.

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Oh look who the cat dragged in ... OCD and all ...



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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 16:18:06 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:02:57 2013.

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RUN Junior! RUUUUNNN!!!!



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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jul 3 16:22:47 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 3 12:47:06 2013.

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iawtp

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Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:27:02 2013, in response to Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial), posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 11:21:09 2013.

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Dumbasses!

Then again, it's Dumbfuckistan, isn't it? :(



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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:38:01 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 3 16:18:06 2013.

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That's probably what warped his little mind in the first place. :)

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 3 17:02:09 2013, in response to Zimmerman Trial, posted by daNd124 on Mon Jul 1 23:47:17 2013.

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Without a manslaughter option on the table, the jury wiil find him not guilty of murder.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 17:09:55 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Elkeeper on Wed Jul 3 17:02:09 2013.

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There was an article in the Times yesterday which claims that a manslaughter conviction is still an option for the jury. Posted a link to it here somewhere in this thread.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 17:30:46 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 3 15:49:04 2013.

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This is why the whole hard limit of age≥18y=adult, age<18y≠adult is stupid. Had Martin killed Zimmerman, he likely would have been tried as an adult.

IAWTP

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Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial)

Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 17:32:42 2013, in response to Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial), posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 16:27:02 2013.

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But we know you're technologically able. :-)

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Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial)

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Jul 3 17:44:50 2013, in response to Re: Skype bombing (Re: Zimmerman Trial), posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 3 17:32:42 2013.

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And pretty much every government entity everywhere has civil service tests for IT geeks. I'll bet that position got sequestered like the jury. :)

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 3 20:05:13 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 3 14:41:12 2013.

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Exactly as I stated. Also, Honda website does not indicate any issues with the power windows on the 2005 Civic Hybrid that were corrected on subsequent models.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 3 20:07:13 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 14:10:38 2013.

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No! Once again, you are lying. Do I need to bring up your original post on the subject?

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Re: Zimmerman Trial

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 3 20:30:10 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, posted by bingbong on Wed Jul 3 09:44:55 2013.

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You like being wrong, don't you? Stop by for a drink Sunday

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Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today

Posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 3 20:39:27 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 3 00:44:35 2013.

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Here I am agreeing with you again on this case

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Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 3 20:40:38 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 3 20:39:27 2013.

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That's 2 for 2. We may be on a roll.

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Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Jul 3 20:43:22 2013, in response to Re: Zimmerman Trial, Prosecution ROYALLY screws up today, posted by ClearAspect on Wed Jul 3 20:39:27 2013.

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hey, were you able to pick a job for the new pick or are you still extra?

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