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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 19:42:06 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 26 15:22:49 2013.

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You call yourself a conservative.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 19:43:38 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:34:55 2013.

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This doesn't sound so significant that you would think about it "every day of your life."

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 19:45:05 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:58:39 2013.

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And? It's not like you lost your opportunity to have a child.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 19:53:32 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 19:45:05 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I am 53 years old, grandfather age. But you never know.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 19:55:38 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 26 15:55:24 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I guess I am not getting an apology. I never you were that insensitive. asshole.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 19:56:36 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 19:43:38 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
It doesn't?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Easy on Fri Apr 26 20:28:21 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:58:39 2013.

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That's too bad. Before my kids were born my wife had an ectopic pregnancy and had to have an abortion so I kind of know how it feels. I don't know how it feels to have a woman decide to have an abortion when you wanted her to have a baby. That's hard.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 26 22:27:18 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 14:33:19 2013.

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That;'s right. Liberals want a better America for ALL. The conservatives only want a better America for a few, at everyone else's expense.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 26 23:53:42 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by bingbong on Fri Apr 26 22:27:18 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Still waiting for you to explain why you know more about abortions than me. Where did you get the special insight?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 27 00:07:09 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 14:33:19 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
how much do you weigh?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 00:11:28 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 26 23:53:42 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That is no less an inappropriate question now than the last time you tried to ask it.

It won't be answered.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:24:36 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Fred G on Fri Apr 26 08:31:36 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Kind of a nice pun going there :)

yeah, I caught that right after I posted it. ;->

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:35:50 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 26 14:03:38 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Still waiting for you to explain how you know more about abortion than I do. Do you want to explain that, Lucy?


Could it be that she is a woman from a generation when almost ALL abortions were illegal and that she personally knows people from that era who went the Gosnell Route.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:44:57 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 26 14:33:19 2013.

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Liberals built America. The conservatives were the Tories.


Excellent post!

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:47:11 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Fri Apr 26 14:09:39 2013.

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So you approve of the beheading of a fetus born alive? See - most conservatives do not.

I hope you realize that you are making a case to legalize elective late-term abortions done under professional medical guidelines.

The whole sordid Gasnell affair does.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Apr 27 01:55:50 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:35:50 2013.

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Nah ... :)

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:57:23 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:39:26 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
You owe me an apology for being insensitive.

says the person who proclaims that foreigners are the root of all evil.

You two are made for each other.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:58:53 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:58:39 2013.

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Did you volunteer to bear the fetus to term yourself?



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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 02:00:25 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Easy on Fri Apr 26 20:28:21 2013.

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I don't know how it feels to have a woman decide to have an abortion when you wanted her to have a baby.

I wonder how a woman who wants children feels when her man decides to have a vasectomy without her permission.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 02:01:48 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Apr 26 15:22:49 2013.

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I'm the most mainstream person in America today.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 02:04:49 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:47:11 2013.

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Late term abortions are not good.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 03:07:18 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 27 02:04:49 2013.

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I agree.

However the more the Right highlights the Gosnell case, the better legalized late-term abortion sounds.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 27 10:45:48 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Fri Apr 26 15:47:06 2013.

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Give it up. Luch will NEVER apologize.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 10:53:14 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Apr 27 10:45:48 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
He's pretty stubborn, but iirc he apologized to me for saying that he hoped that someone ate my babies. I'm not sure that he even owes chicagomotorman an apology.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 27 10:54:36 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 10:53:14 2013.

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i am not stubborn. but thanks for attacking.


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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 10:59:30 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 27 10:54:36 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
De nada. Oscar Grant and the LA cop riot are two issues that immediately come to mind where you have been consistently unreasonable and stubborn.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 11:13:20 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:35:50 2013.

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NO! I came from the same generation and simply being a woman gives you no special insight into abortions. Why do you feel the need to make excuses for her? Why don't you let her explain?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 11:14:11 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:47:11 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
No I'm not. You simply can't read.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 11:15:00 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 02:01:48 2013.

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And every psycho thinks that they are normal, too!

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 11:35:41 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 02:00:25 2013.

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Good point.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 11:36:44 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Apr 27 10:54:36 2013.

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Where's my apology?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 11:37:33 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 10:53:14 2013.

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I even apologized to salaam for miss judging him.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 11:38:23 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:58:53 2013.

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If I was the other gender yes.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Easy on Sat Apr 27 11:39:53 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 02:00:25 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
That's not quite the same. The equivalent to that would be a woman having a tubal ligation. Both would happen before a pregnancy. I don't know if you've ever had a kid that you wanted with a partner or wife, but you feel like your kid is growing inside her, not an impersonal fetus.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 14:30:28 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 11:13:20 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Oh yes it does. You cannot begin to imagine how much. You cannot begin to comprehend the fear. You would never be the one experiencing it. It is not something any guy would ever begin to get.

It is still overall an inappropriate question and you've gotten more than a sufficient answer above.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 14:47:47 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sat Apr 27 01:47:11 2013.

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I don't know if they came up with evidence that any of those feoti were actually viable, which is why most of the charges have already been dropped. (a little "inconvenient fact" for your RWers) Not a single person involved in these procedures testified about anyone severing spinal cords of any fetuses. Some of the people here ought to catch up on some of the facts in this case and trial.

He should be put out of business and have his license revoked. He should be sued for malpractice. However, he is not a murderer.

This also points out the need for someone to serve these women in a decent way so they do not have to seek out these dubious practitioners. Legal, safe abortions need to be available to all in late term for medical reasons. When a woman goes through a pregnancy to that point it's clear that she does not intend to suddenly choose to abort. Such choices need to be made earlier on. However, medical issues can arise and often the best medical decision is to abort an non-viable fetus due to birth defect, and certainly for stillbirth utilizing the least invasive procedure possible (but it was made illegal by a bunch of do-nothing, know-nothings some years back). Medicaid, thanks to the RW,does not address these issues. But they'll pay for the emergency hysterectomy that is the inevitable result. Or the woman's burial.

Then we won't see scenes like this one.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 20:26:54 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 14:30:28 2013.

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What is inappropriate is for you to make such a claim without being able to back it up. Sounds like your claim about BMW leaving South Carolina - more BS.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 20:32:47 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 14:47:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
".....which is why most of the charges have already been dropped."

Most of the charges? More of your lying bullshit? Three of the charges were dropped. There were 7 capital murder charges. 3 from 7 is not most of the charges. Aside from your arithmetic dysfunction, one has to wonder why an extremist liberal such as yourself is so hell-bent on defending a man charged with killing babies and killing at least one woman in his care. What is your agenda, here?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 20:59:41 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 20:26:54 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Not on this issue. Nor here...this is not a conversation for a toll like you.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:04:09 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 27 11:13:20 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
NO! I came from the same generation and simply being a woman gives you no special insight into abortions.

and people on SubChat rode on the same trains that you worked on at the shop in your time.

Does that mean they know more about those trains than you do?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:11:34 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 14:47:47 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
However, he is not a murderer.

If the fetus was delivered alive, it's no longer a fetus.
It's a person.

Killing it is murder.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Apr 28 00:32:42 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:04:09 2013.

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Yep ... that's the new standard. :)

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 00:44:34 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by bingbong on Sat Apr 27 20:59:41 2013.

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Resorting to name calling again? Although I must confess, I find being called a "toll" a bit confusing. As I said, your claim is bullshit and you can't back it up. Just one more top add to the growing list of bing-bong-bull-shit.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 28 00:47:08 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:04:09 2013.

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I doubt it but then for bing-bong to make the equivalent argument, she'd have to be a person who performed abortions. Is that what you are claiming?

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 28 19:27:27 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:11:34 2013.

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100% correct!!! BTW bingbong would agree with you.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 28 19:30:13 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by chicagomotorman on Sat Apr 27 11:36:44 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
Streetcars will reappear on Chicago streets when Luch apologizes.

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 19:32:52 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 28 19:30:13 2013.

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WADL

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by bingbong on Sun Apr 28 19:40:58 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by SMAZ on Sun Apr 28 00:11:34 2013.

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There is no evidence, which has been made public, that any found and autopsied were born alive or viable. There has been adamant testimony from those who participated and assisted in those procedures that there was no "snipping of spinal cords" or any murderous activities. That's why so many of the charges have already been dropped.

The facts of the case are not supporting the RW rhetoric Therefore, they squirm and lie about it..

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 28 20:02:35 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by daNd124 on Sun Apr 28 19:32:52 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
KNOCK IT OFF!!!

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Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Apr 29 00:26:23 2013, in response to Re: What Do You Think Of Kermit Gosnell?, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Apr 28 19:30:13 2013.

fiogf49gjkf0d
I apologized hours ago, you imbecile. You are an imbecile.



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