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Re: Origins of the Secular Christmas Re: Media Taking Christmas out of Christmas |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Jan 3 19:31:56 2005, in response to Origins of the Secular Christmas Re: Media Taking Christmas out of Christmas, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jan 3 18:02:25 2005. No, they have nothing to do with any God that I know. Not one thing on that list has anything to do with the Christian religion, the day that is on the 25th of Dec.The 25th of December was not chosen at random, it was chosen because it was Christmas Day, and some people felt that could be commercially exploited. That still does not make the holiday non-religious in nature. >>Shopping has to do with God.<< Yes. Uh no. It was long a tradition to exchange gifts on or around Christmas. How would you get gifts except through shopping? >Lights all over the place has to do with God.<< Yes Uh no. I never saw anywhere in the Bible, or in any church that you should buy colorful lights and put them outside your home. It was long a tradition to decorate ones home with colorful objects on or around Christmas. The lights are just a 20th Century adaptation of that. Uh no. No where in the Bible does it say such a thing, that a pine tree should be brought into the home. It was a pagan custom that was first done in the 1500's by the Germans. It was later adopted by the Slavic people, and found it's way into this country some time in the 1700's, and certainly not by Biblical or Church doing. Putting glass balls on the tree was introduced by NF.W.Woolworth in 1890 (Surprise, surprise a retailer). Paganism is a religion. Prior to glass or plastic balls on Christmas trees, it was custom to place fruit on it. Glass and plastic balls are a modern adaptation of that. By the early 1900's, only about 1 in 5 Americans put up a Christmas Tree. (Again, the Christmas we celebrate was invented by American Retail in the early 1900's, as I have said throughout this thread). So what? Religious celebrations evolve over time, and the fact that they are introduced solely in order for someone to make money does not make them any less religious. Religions have always tried to make money from the faithful. Ever heard of tithing? Or selling indulgences? >>Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (which was started as a big publicity thing for the then beginning of the Shopping season, and why the parade ends with "Santa") has to do with God.<< Nope Correct, but the parade should be called the almost be called the "Christmas Parade", because that is the only reason it was started, to promote business for the Christmas Holiday season. So? The parade takes place on a different holiday and bears little resemblance to the celebration of Christmas. What in Bethlehem when Christ was born? I don't think so. That one foggy "Christmas" Eve has absolutely NOTHING to do with God, Jesus, or ANYTHING vaguely religious. It seems silly to say that CHRISTmas is not a religious holiday when religion is right there in the name! Uh, no again, no Godly or divibne intervention there either. But Here is where the American Santa Claus, as well as other countries versions of him come from, and of course that has been taken over by the American Businesses at the early part of the century too, to increase the sales.... Santa Claus is St. Nicholas, a Christian saint. |
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