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Re: This is why Democrats Will Lose Again

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Tue Sep 17 20:52:59 2019, in response to Re: This is why Democrats Will Lose Again, posted by Joe V on Tue Sep 17 18:41:26 2019.

The left DOES have all of these issues. At least one frontrunner takes an extreme stance on every one of them.
Confiscate Guns - I'll get back to this
Free inferior health care
A public option people can get behind. Elizabeth Warren wants to end private health insurance entirely. If she wins the nomination she will get beaten over the head about this.
Open Borders
Bernie Sanders calls for a Moratorium on all deportations at the 3rd debate
To be fair, he's consistent and called for the same during the Obama administration. Apply a little critical thinking: if we're not deporting them at all, and not making any effort to prevent them from coming in, and we're "closing ICE facilities" so we cannot even detain them while we vet them, that's de-facto open borders. If he wins, he will get beaten over the head about this.

Eliminate Fossil Fuel Economy
The major ones (except Biden and Harris) also mention ending nuclear power. For some reason Warren is listed as TBD but she recently came out against it as well. They are either being disingenuous on this campaign promise (aka - pandering and lying) or they are going to plunge us into a domestic recession. Because China, Russia, and India will be doing no such nonsense and will eat our lunch for it.

Regulate what we may eat - While a bit hyperbolic Kamala Harris wants to reduce meat eating:
Accordingly, if elected president, Harris says she would change U.S. dietary guidelines and have food labels that state that red-meat consumption harms the environment.

Higher taxes
Funny how neither side seems to consider reducing spending as a solution to lowering the deficit.

3rd trimester abortion - Republicans want zero abortion, and some of those no exceptions for rape , incest
That's the far right edge of the argument. Most people were begrudgingly content with the status quo, they just didn't want tax dollars paying for it. Except for Biden the platform is almost no abortion limits.

Confiscate Guns that's confiscate military assault rifles , 2nd amendment doesn't cover you for that.
1. the 2nd amendment doesn't have qualifiers
2. Military assault rifles can do fully-automatic fire and three round burst, and have already been banned with minimal exception for civilian use since the 80s (only older rifles may be re-sold, and there is a huge tax penalty on the sale). Beto wants to confiscate AR-15s. AR-15s are not military assault rifles. They are semi-automatic rifles that look similar to military rifles but are functionally equivalent to many hunting rifles. It would be the equivalent of banning "civilian ownership of military vehicles" but also banning the sale of Hummers or Jeeps because they look similar to military vehicles when you take the doors off.
Beto has no chance in hell but if this nonsense infects the Democratic campaign platform, prepare for Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine to go red.

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