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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:06:22 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Thu May 8 18:22:08 2014. I don't have strong opinions about 1, but I'm not sure that birthright citizenship is obsolete.I think 2 is the crux of many of your problems here. I don't give a damn if you are religious or not, but I am religious, and provided my religious choices don't negatively impact your life (and they don't in this case, and they sure as hell don't in the case of your Passover thread), you should respect my choices in the way I respect yours. Once you grasp this concept, you might find you have fewer adversaries here, especially since the religious posters here have a live and let live attitude when it comes to how others practice for the most part. If a state wishes to maintain policies such as Israel's (Jewish and Democratic), then it does need to manage its demographics in a way you find objectionable, or else it has to engage in policies that are far worse (i.e. an apartheid style system to ensure a minority rules over a majority). Israel seeks to live in peace with its neighbors, its neighbors need to demonstrate that they wish to live in peace with Israel. Judaism agrees with you on number 4, however, security and other issues sometimes have to trump this priority. Israel is not creating poverty within the disputed territories, the poverty is the result of a group of people being abandoned by the countries and people who are best suited to help that population, leaving Israel "responsible" in the eyes of many (such as yourself, who have been deluded by the Palestinian propaganda against Israel) for neglecting a population that it doesn't want to be part of its own country and that doesn't want to be part of Israel. See the problem here? Point 5 is reasonably fair. By your own admission on point 6, Israel's policies in the disputed territories are justified. Israel has been at war with some countries and entities for 66 years, including Hamas, which is the governing power in the Gaza Strip. By this logic, Israel is justified in its policies in both Gaza and the West Bank. Furthermore, while you claim it is a disproportionate response for Israel to bomb mosques in the Gaza Strip in response to the rockets sent over from Gaza to Israel by Hamas, you make no mention of the fact that Hamas uses human shields and purposely places its weapons infrastructure in densely populated areas in order to maximize civilian casualties. In other words, Israel's policies are much closer to your ideals than those of the PA or Hamas. I guess Israel isn't that horrible of a country after all... |
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