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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Mar 8 16:09:06 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. Isn't the Q-35 going to stop at Fillmore Ave to connect with the B-100? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 8 16:09:46 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. "Thought it was derailed"Things only get derailed on SubChat. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:18:03 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Mar 8 16:09:06 2007. I rode on it last night and it did not stop there. However, that doesn't MEAN it's not a stop for the Q-35, just that nobody rang to get off and there were not pick ups needed. I'll have to look into that... |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:18:36 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 8 16:09:46 2007. Thanks...I should have seen that one coming...;-D |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 8 16:20:21 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. The new timetable has not yet been posted on mta.info. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Mar 8 16:55:25 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by italianstallion on Thu Mar 8 16:09:46 2007. No, things get REEFED on Subchat! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:18:10 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. this sucks, the least they could've done was to make the Q35 mirror the B41 limited route and have the stop Av P NOT Quentin road.Otherwise I do enjoy the good limited run from the Junction to Kings Highway. |
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RTS 5992 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:30:00 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. On a related note I saw this bus on the Q35 today. [is it an ex-JBL?] I thought most ex-JBL buses were 11xx? And are there many JBL numbered that high? |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:30:27 2007, in response to RTS 5992, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:30:00 2007. Also it had JFk depot stickers. |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 19:45:07 2007, in response to RTS 5992, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:30:00 2007. That's the one I rode the other day! It's still hang'n in there despite it's age....BTW, the bus was hardly full, yet it was around 6 pm..... |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:53:50 2007, in response to Re: RTS 5992, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 19:45:07 2007. A lot of ppl were waiting for it despite the Limited stops thing. Either that or most of them still thought it ran local despite a personel telling them it was limited.I got on a fill in B41 to Bergen Beach - I guess they took off a B44 bus cuz it was turning to the right and headed down and picked us up to ease the backup i guess. Emptiest B41 I rode on during the PM rush in a while. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:35:20 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:18:10 2007. Is it stopping at Quentin Road? He didn't say that! That would help me. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:42:58 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. Absolutely ridiculous. I know I'm a broken record but it should make all stops, and if you want to restrict service to speed the trip, then do it LIB style, not providing for trips "wholly north" of Kings Plaza as LIB does not provide for trips "wholly within Queens."At least have the stops within walking distance. Add a stop at Ave K and another at Fillmore to minimize walking and provide for connections with the B100 and maybe even the BM1 at Ave K. (That's a deal: $5 for Rockaway Park to Lower Manhattan, but it would have to be advertised). |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 20:43:47 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:35:20 2007. You didn't ask or read the changes? Yes Quentin southbound rather than av P which really sucks for me. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:49:24 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 20:43:47 2007. What changes? In fact when was this made public? I just checked MTAB Service Advisories and there's nothing there.If you mean ask a driver, the public should not have to ask about changes; they should be made known. The fact that this was posted four days later and no one here had any knowledge of it before (or the motivation to post about it) adds to my complaint about MTAB. I've liked MTAB so far, but this course of action is neither appropriate or necessary. They should, if they don't, have at least all local service on late nights or something. |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by R32 B Train on Thu Mar 8 21:01:50 2007, in response to RTS 5992, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 19:30:00 2007. Yes, 5992 is ex- JBL 3858. In addition it was ex-QSC 286.Most of the ex- JBLs are in the 1100 series, but there are 12 5900s that are ex- JBL 5988-5999 (all which were ex-QSCs also. I have no idea why they were not numbered in the 1200 series. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by b1bus on Thu Mar 8 21:05:45 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 20:43:47 2007. There was a paper sign taped at the bus stop listing the stops I saw the day it started, last Sunday at Ave S and Flatbush I saw when leaving PETCO saying the bus wasn't stopping there anymore. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:13:37 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:49:24 2007. At the Junction there is a person informing riders about the changes. I got word of this from BusTalk, But yes this is sudden and the MTA via the media should've informed the riders better. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:14:13 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by b1bus on Thu Mar 8 21:05:45 2007. What kind of pet do you have? |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:16:32 2007, in response to Re: RTS 5992, posted by R32 B Train on Thu Mar 8 21:01:50 2007. Thanks, yeah I was wondering why the odd numbering. Is this why there's that ex-GL bus numbered 85xx?The renumbering is just so odd and I wonder what about the buses retired now like the classics - will their numbers be recycled now? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:20:16 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:42:58 2007. You are not the only one, I don't like how in this weather I'd have to walk more to catch teh Q35. I still don't see the need for limited only all of a sudden. It's bad enough you had to wave at the driver to get them to stop at the local stops, but :sigh: I just wished there could've been public input b4 the changes were made. |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Mar 8 21:56:51 2007, in response to Re: RTS 5992, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:16:32 2007. You refer to 8582. I'm not sure of the logic behind the numbering scheme, but they had to get the numbers in someow. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by petabread2 on Thu Mar 8 22:15:58 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:20:16 2007. There were signs on buses, I saw them like 2 weeks ago on a lot of the buses. |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 22:59:51 2007, in response to Re: RTS 5992, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Mar 8 21:56:51 2007. Is that the only one? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 23:00:47 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by petabread2 on Thu Mar 8 22:15:58 2007. Last week I ended up getting only the B41's so BusTalk was where I got my info on this change. |
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Re: RTS 5992 |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Mar 8 23:13:27 2007, in response to Re: RTS 5992, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:16:32 2007. The numbers could potentially be recycled as early as if (a big if) LIBus is absorbed into MTA Bus (and MSBA disestablished). |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by QM18Express on Thu Mar 8 23:27:23 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Thu Mar 8 20:42:58 2007. You got the BM2 at Flatbush/Nostrand for that |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Mar 9 00:09:05 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by QM18Express on Thu Mar 8 23:27:23 2007. Question - say I am on the Q35 heading north and I get on the BM2 - does it deduct $3 + the transfer or does it take all $5? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 01:58:31 2007, in response to It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BMT Guy on Thu Mar 8 16:06:16 2007. Yes its true. I drove up Flatbush from the Belt and all the Q35 signs were gone except at the previously mentioned locations. Also, the Q35 dont stop on Nostrand Ave in front of Lord's Bakery. It drops off by the subway entrance(B41 stand), swing around, and pick up southbound on Flatbush. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 9 09:09:08 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 01:58:31 2007. >>and pick up southbound on Flatbush.<<Would that be by the B-41 Kings Plaza bound bus stop? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:18:20 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:13:37 2007. How long do you think it will take to have all of the bus stop signs changed?Will Q35 appear in pink like the other limiteds do you think? And the Q35 will now be the only 24-hour limited in the city I think? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:19:53 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by b1bus on Thu Mar 8 21:05:45 2007. Of course PETCO is at Ave S, which is one of the stops previously listed (first post of this thread) as where the Q35 WILL stop. If we aren't even sure what's going on, I shudder to think of what the typical passenger knows! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:37:18 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Thu Mar 8 21:20:16 2007. I think the only way the general public could obstruct a plan is if you get large numbers and I don't think we have them here. As long as people from the Rockaways can get to Kings Plaza and the Junction the vast majority are probably happy.But sometimes public opinion or no public opinion you have to weigh the pros and cons. There is a reason why the original Q35 mini-express was made into an all-local. I'm not sure exactly what it was but apparently there was some reason for it all the time. Just reversing it and changing it back suggests there was something wrong and it seems only a small handful of people at MTAB know what it is. I am extremely familiar with this area (if you can't tell already) and I have experienced up to this year Q35s beating out B41 limiteds from Kings Hwy to Nostrand (usually because the B41 LTD takes 2 lights to load at Kings Hwy). If this new idea saves even 60 seconds per trip I would be suprised. The one way MTAB can make it up to me: get the combination of this route with the Q22 done fast, and with whatever the new number is have a limited over the entire route and a local over the entire route and get rid of the limited on off-hours. I would say something like this: Local (All times): Current Q22 route Far Rockaway to B169 and then pre 3/4/07 Q35 local to Nostrand Limited (Not all times): Current Q22 route Far Rockaway to Seagirt/Rockaway Freeway then non-stop along Rockaway Freeway to B 116/Newport, stop there, and then non-stop (maybe even skipping B169) to Kings Plaza, then stops at transfer points only (Fillmore, Kings Hwy, Ave K?, Nostrand) I'm sorry but I'm angry over this, lol. Please bear with me, lol. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:42:11 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Mar 9 00:09:05 2007. If you paid $2 to get on the Q35 (not a transfer from another bus) then only $3 more get deducted for boarding an express bus within 2 hr+grace period. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:42:53 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by QM18Express on Thu Mar 8 23:27:23 2007. This is true. We can let go of Ave K then. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops (change) |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:45:07 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:37:18 2007. I was too rash I think in the previous post so criticism is definitely welcome. Perhaps have at least a few more stops on my proposed limited in the Rockaways! |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:48:07 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 01:58:31 2007. They should just make Glenwood Road a stop. Another transfer opportunity (the B6) and it's part of the relay already anyway. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Fri Mar 9 10:04:42 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:18:20 2007. The M60 misses the bill by about 2½ hours. (Although it's not signed as a limited, it makes limited stops in Queens and on Broadway.)Does MTA Bus offer Request-a-Stop? That might ease the pain for some passengers who get off at local stops. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 9 10:19:23 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by David of Broadway on Fri Mar 9 10:04:42 2007. MTA Bus does offer Request-A-Stop between 10 PM and 5 PM within the City of New York only (some MTA Bus routes are not contained with New York City limits). |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Mar 9 10:44:21 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu Mar 8 16:09:06 2007. I don't believe Fillmore Ave was included when the Q35 originally had limited stops. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 9 10:51:32 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Mar 9 10:44:21 2007. That is true. Originally, the Q-35 went between Kings Plaza and Kings Highway without making stops. But sometime in the early to mid 90's, it seemed like they added Fillmore while still making the other usual limited stops. Unless I'm mistaken, and they added Fillmore when they changed the policy to make *all* stops. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 11:05:56 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 9 10:19:23 2007. I wonder what the difference is, whether you are in NYC or not, why should that affect Request-A-Stop?What MTAB routes go outside NYC besides the Q113? |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 11:07:30 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 9 10:51:32 2007. No, you are correct. Fillmore was a special Q35 stop (before all stops were made), even if it wasn't original, it was eventually, as I remember having to walk to it to get on when I lived down at Quentin. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Mar 9 11:10:32 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 11:05:56 2007. The BxM3 express route travels via South Broadway in Yonkers. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by QM18Express on Fri Mar 9 11:13:40 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by Grand Concourse on Fri Mar 9 00:09:05 2007. It's pretty much like this:Swipe card on the Q35. Takes out $2 Then swipe card on the BM2. Takes out Transfer + $3 So it's pretty much the 1st thing you said: "deduct $3 + the transfer" |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 12:40:10 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 9 09:09:08 2007. I think the Bergen Beach bound bus stop. I know thats where the Q35 picked up before. The B103/BM2 shares the KP stop. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 12:42:24 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 09:19:53 2007. I thought PETCO entrance was on Utica Ave. The former site of Fairyland Arcade. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 12:44:54 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by New Flyer #857 on Fri Mar 9 11:07:30 2007. Probably for the B100 transfer and also for Flatbush depot. I think more of the latter. |
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Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Mar 9 13:01:45 2007, in response to Re: It Finally Happenned: Q35 Limited Stops, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Mar 9 12:42:24 2007. You are absolutely correct. |
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