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N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 17 11:54:59 2014

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Jones Beach 2014 Summer Service

Service to Jones Beach via the n87 from Hicksville and the NON-STOP n88 from Freeport

Nice Bus offers 2 routes to Jones Beach beginning Memorial Day Weekend, 2014.

1. The Non-stop n88 departing from Freeport LIRR station to the Jones Beach State Park's two Bathhouses and the Central Mall.

2. Weekend Service Only. Daily service begins June 23rd.

3. Departure times from Jones Beach denotes a West Bathhouse departure.

4. Buses departing from Freeport LIRR station may be held at the discretion of supervisors, to enable transfers arriving from LIRR trains.

5. Bus Service runs rain or shine

The n87 service begins Monday June 23rd, departing from Hicksville LIRR to Jones Beach Bathhouses and Central Mall, with stops at Newbridge Road, East Meadow, and Wantagh. After Wantagh, the n87 services Freeport and then on to the beach.


Weekend-Only service from Freeport begins Saturday, May 24th, Memorial Day Weekend thru June 23th. Daily service from both Freeport and Hicksville starts on Monday June 23rd, and runs thru Labor Day, September 1st.

The one-way cash fare is $2.25. The MetroCard and NICE GOMOBILE app fare is $2.50. Please note, our fare boxes do not accept dollar bills. If paying with cash, please have your quarters ready.

Link for N88 weekend schedule

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 17 12:05:03 2014, in response to N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 17 11:54:59 2014.

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The columns are labeled in a very confusing way. It the top should read Leave Freeport, Arrive Jones Beach.

The second column should read Leave Jones Beach, Arrive Freeport.

From Freeport, To Jones Beach means exactly the same thing.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:45:20 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 17 12:05:03 2014.

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The n87 service begins Monday June 23rd, departing from Hicksville LIRR to Jones Beach Bathhouses and Central Mall, with stops at Newbridge Road, East Meadow, and Wantagh. After Wantagh, the n87 services Freeport and then on to the beach

The above doesn't make any sense. Why would the N87 go to Freeport after Wantagh and not take the Wantagh Parkway to JB?

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:45:36 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 17 12:05:03 2014.

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The n87 service begins Monday June 23rd, departing from Hicksville LIRR to Jones Beach Bathhouses and Central Mall, with stops at Newbridge Road, East Meadow, and Wantagh. After Wantagh, the n87 services Freeport and then on to the beach

The above doesn't make any sense. Why would the N87 go to Freeport after Wantagh and not take the Wantagh Parkway to JB?

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:51:03 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 17 12:05:03 2014.

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Just sent NICE a message through their contact page on their website.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 17 14:57:05 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:51:03 2014.

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It would be NICE if they would adjust it, no pun intended!

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by JAzumah on Sat May 17 20:08:22 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:45:36 2014.

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They are using the extra n87 capacity to help the n88.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by N6 Limited on Sat May 17 22:40:12 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sat May 17 14:45:20 2014.

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To provide more service from Freeport utilizing existing capacity.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 06:22:10 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by N6 Limited on Sat May 17 22:40:12 2014.

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Traveling from Wantagh to Freeport will add 30 minutes of running time.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun May 18 11:31:56 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 06:22:10 2014.

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You mean round-trip? Because Google Maps says it takes about 10 minutes each way to make it from Wantagh to Freeport, and then after you leave, the travel time to reach Jones Beach should be comparable from Freeport vs. Wantagh.

As a side benefit, it's a nice shortcut for anybody who needs to travel from Hicksville to Freeport.



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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 12:37:07 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Sun May 18 11:31:56 2014.

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A car may be able to make it ten minutes between Wantagh and Freeport but I doubt a bus can make it. I'd expect the Meadowbrook Parkway to be more crowded than the Wantagh Parkway because the Meadowbrook is closer to the city.

I don't have passenger load counts on the N87. If the bus is 2/3 full leaving Wantagh, is it worth it to pick a third at Freeport and inconvenience the 2/3 already on the bus?

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by JAzumah on Sun May 18 12:56:35 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 12:37:07 2014.

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Yep...it is a seasonal service. It needs to be run as cheaply as possible.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by N6 Limited on Sun May 18 22:20:03 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 12:37:07 2014.

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Remember, there will be no stops on Sunrise Highway.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 23:49:31 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by N6 Limited on Sun May 18 22:20:03 2014.

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Why not? The bus can pick up passengers at Bellmore and Merrick train Stations. By the time the bus gets to Freeport, there will barely be room for anybody else.

I don't know how NICE blocks the N87, but I remember Mid-Island would send a bus to JB and then deadhead back to Hicksville. Now NICE wants to send a bus Freeport.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by N6 Limited on Mon May 19 01:50:54 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by nostalgia on Sun May 18 23:49:31 2014.

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Anyone who would be getting on at Bellmore or Merrick can certainly catch the bus in Freeport

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Mon May 19 14:05:00 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by JAzumah on Sat May 17 20:08:22 2014.

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N88 is standing-room only and mobbed, while the N87 only has 2 or 3 passengers per bus.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by nostalgia on Mon May 19 21:13:59 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by BrooklynTrain on Mon May 19 14:05:00 2014.

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Then why bring back the N87 if it's empty or run it through Wantagh? Save time and run it on the N50 and make a right turn onto Sunrise Highway at Bellmore.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by Joe on Thu Jul 10 22:22:14 2014, in response to N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 17 11:54:59 2014.

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I cannot judge the quality of service by less that two hours of observation. N87 and N88 are supposed to leave Jones at :00 and :30. Both take the Meadowbrook Pkwy to Freeport, but the trips leaving Jones at :30 continue from Freeport to Wantagh and Hicksville, as described above.
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Today,7.10.2014, as I approached the water tower, I was surprised to see a bus leave Jones at 4:20. The next left at 4:50. I explored to the Field 5 stop, then returned to the Central Mall (at the Water Tower) at 5:15 and found passengers waiting. The next bus came at 5:59, as shown in the photo below. That was at least a 45 minute wait, more probably 70 minutes. The destination sign said Hicksville LIRR and some passengers were reluctant to board until I announced "This goes to Freeport."
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N88 leaving Jones Beach

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by northshore on Fri Jul 11 19:29:42 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by Joe on Thu Jul 10 22:22:14 2014.

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I am surprised the N87 Hcksville route was changed. It used to run via the the Wantagh Parkway from Jones Beach to Wantagh, then normal route to Hicksville. Now it follows the N88 Freeport route and then to Wantagh then Hicksville. This makes more sense. Also, I see the frequency is hourly room around 1pm to 8 pm. It used to be 3 trips daily. Great improvement in service.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by hound on Fri Jul 11 21:56:10 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by northshore on Fri Jul 11 19:29:42 2014.

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No improvement in service. The 87 runs habitually late due to insufficient running time & never leaves Freeport on time. It also gets delayed because some of the 87 runs are interlined with other routes that run late into either Freeport or Hicksville.

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Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23

Posted by BrooklynTrain on Fri Jul 11 23:11:19 2014, in response to Re: N88 Jones Beach weekend bus service starts 5/24; N87 is back on 6/23, posted by hound on Fri Jul 11 21:56:10 2014.

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Last year, N87 buses I saw had only 3 or 4 people on the entire bus.

Meanwhile, N88 buses were so packed that people were in danger of being left behind. The vast majority of people using mass transit go to Freeport and then transfer to buses/LIRR to go towards Queens/NYC.

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