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1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012 This month's board meeting agenda item service & schedule changes; page 55 to the end: .pdf file . . . or view it below.click to enlarge the image B103 Limited |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by BusMgr on Sat Jan 21 18:44:14 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. 1. MTA Bus seems to spend an inordinate amount of time and effort in getting various approvals for the routes buses take where there are no bus stops. Greater flexibility for management and greater convenience for passengers would likely result if management were permitted to authorize any reasonable route that does not affect the service of passenger stops.2. The Q41 report seems to be long on technical analysis and short on political analysis. That is, it reinforces the perception that the MTA knows what is "best" for us, and that actual subjective perception of the electorate is largely irrelevant. Long live centralized planning! |
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1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Sat Jan 21 18:53:23 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. It think it's about time the changes for the Q41 and Bx24(which should have at least gone to Westchester Square at its inception) came to be. But the B103 should have been left alone. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sat Jan 21 19:00:20 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by BusMgr on Sat Jan 21 18:44:14 2012. These don't need approval. They're information items. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 21 19:04:58 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. The B103 change is stupid, I like the alternative presented where northbound buses travel up the wider 4th Avenue, and hopefully whoever reviews this chooses that alternative, especially since 5th Avenue is also prone to delays. Either way, a northbound stop in front of Atlantic Terminal should most definitely be added.I like the Q41 change, although I still think it should go to the Rockaways. Whoever reviews the Bx24 change should just choose the alternative of extending it to Grant Circle and eliminating the Bx4A, I feel that the route pattern in that area is headed in that direction anyway. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by BusMgr on Sat Jan 21 23:23:25 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Train2104 on Sat Jan 21 19:00:20 2012. Maybe not approval by the MTA Board, but there are layers of internal approval . . . look at the necessity to write a formal report and get approval signatures. Many successful companies got to where they are as a result of empowering lower level managerial and non-managerial employees to make decisions themselves without having to wait for approvals from headquarters. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Sat Jan 21 23:32:20 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. Bx14 anyone? |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 22 13:47:02 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. The B103 problems to me are on the City of New York...they messed up something that wasn't broken---and will now require construction and rewiring to undo---by preventing 4th Avenue from being able to access Flatbush Avenue directly.I like the Q41 proposal, but I would have done it a little differently, as such * To Jamaica, via Rockaway Boulevard, continue past 109 Avenue, left on Linden Boulevard, left on Hawtree Creek Road, left on 128 Street, past 109 Avenue, and the proposed route. * To Howard Beach: via Atlantic Avenue, left on 130 Street (a 2-way street), right on 101 Avenue, left om 129 Street, continue onto Hawtree Creek Road (a minor one-block direction reversal would be required with a traffic light at the 6-way intersection of 111 Avenue/126 Street/Hawtree Creek Road), right on Linden Boulevard, right on Rockaway Boulevard, past 109 Avenue, and then the proposed route. Too many people are affected going south for this plan to work as I see it---in addition, by placing the Q41 on Linden Boulevard instead of 109 Avenue, there is better access to the supermarket by Linden Boulevard. This would also provide a better spacing between the Q41 and the Q112, more even route coverage with the Q9, and have the Q41 provide service to Aqueduct and the Home Depot. There would also be a lot fewer turns needed, and travel time would go down because there is more time spent on a 4-lane road, with fewer turns. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 22 14:39:22 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. No MTA Bus schedule changes? |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Train2104 on Sun Jan 22 14:52:37 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 22 14:39:22 2012. Unfortunately those either don't happen or aren't given to the board. Given the blatant exceeding of loading guidelines that I see on some MTA Bus Co routes, I think it's the former. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 22 19:19:28 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Train2104 on Sun Jan 22 14:52:37 2012. IAWTP |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by error46146 on Mon Jan 23 16:25:21 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. NOO WHY THE B103!!If anything the B103 needs MORE highway time not less...and run it down Flatbush too? Pathetic. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jan 23 16:32:07 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jan 21 19:04:58 2012. That would cost extra money, though, unless you terminated the current Bx4A buses at the Parkchester (6)<6> station. Combining the Bx4A/Bx24 would be cost-neutral, but the problem is that the route would be too long, and there would be artics running in Country Club. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Jan 23 16:39:12 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jan 23 16:32:07 2012. Getting rid of the Bx4A should mean that the Bx4 would require at least 1 less bus for its operation throughout the day since the Bx4A is longer though. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Mon Jan 23 21:27:46 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by checkmatechamp13 on Mon Jan 23 16:32:07 2012. Unless this were doneBx4 - same Bx14 - (combined Bx4A/Bx24) West Farms Road / Southern Blvd - Country Club Bx27 - extended to the Hub to replace the Bx4A which is cut back |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by PATHman on Mon Jan 23 23:45:01 2012, in response to 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by Gold_12TH on Sat Jan 21 16:50:18 2012. The B103 continues to get raped. It is slowly becoming just another bus route. It's no longer the super limited it used to be back when Command was around. |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jan 24 00:14:06 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by error46146 on Mon Jan 23 16:25:21 2012. If 3 Av is a problem just send it via 4 av/ Atlantic Av/ 3 Av/ Path. 7 av has to deal with the B 67 and B 69 and 5 Av is the B 63 and double parking, I cant wait til the end of the year to see this revise back to 3 or 4 av. Bad job NYDOT and MTA |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 24 00:23:23 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by PATHman on Mon Jan 23 23:45:01 2012. How is this an example of that? |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Gold_12TH on Tue Jan 24 00:44:04 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jan 24 00:14:06 2012. Well, they are geniuses... :) |
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Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jan 24 12:19:18 2012, in response to Re: 1/2012 MTA B.M.: Changes on B103, Q41, Bx5, Bx24 & 63 bus route schedules, posted by B49 Limited on Tue Jan 24 00:14:06 2012. If 3 Av is a problem just send it via 4 av/ Atlantic Av/ 3 Av/ Path.Exactly, that's what I said. Regardless, that option is one of the alternatives presented and hopefully the MTA considers it. |
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