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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:01:22 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu May 26 17:39:13 2011. Both modes suck, especially in New York City, you better believe that if I could afford a car I would never set foot in a subway again. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:02:22 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Q101 E. MIDTOWN 2 AV on Thu May 26 17:55:00 2011. Just send it up to the Plaza via the B62's routing. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:02:44 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by TheHat on Thu May 26 15:30:46 2011. Why? |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 18:05:15 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 26 16:11:55 2011. Unless the bus fare was cheaper then the toll. Newark Airport was mentioned as a possible destination and maybe Downtown Newark would work.On that last one, I hear BoltBus is doing well in Newark. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu May 26 18:07:25 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by DaRidgewoodBusBuff on Thu May 26 17:39:13 2011. Not my video, nor have I actually seen this dude in RF but I know someone slimar to this on the B8, one time dude sat in front of me in the back of a bus was singing/rapping the whole time from Dyter Heights to my stop in Flatbush... mind you this is a hour long ride. Thankfully I rarely seen him when I take the bus home and when I do he get off at the (D) train station lol. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 18:20:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 26 16:28:32 2011. You never know what will happen with a bus service in a new market. The NJT 874 and 875 are somewhat recent examples of this, granted Lakeland provides service over the 874 route along Route 46.This is why I'm wondering how well a Howard Bvld, Rockaway Mall, Denville, Parsippany, Newark, Jersey City route would do whether it's operated by NJT Morris, Lakeland, or someone else. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu May 26 18:20:35 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 17:55:15 2011. I had this happen to me as well on you guessed it... the B8. This self righteous, holier than thou woman tried to peach to the driver while the bus was MOVING and SRO with people standing in the front door area, mind you if the bus stops short people go flying though the windshield as people was standing in front of the white line.The B/O replied to the woman like... I'm driving... you could tell he had a WTF/Are you serious? tone in his voice. I mean at least wait until the bus stops or something lol. That was one of the worse bus rides ever, not to mention the farebox slammed my hand against the rail I was holding in the front of the bus as it went over a pothole. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu May 26 18:58:03 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:01:22 2011. I kinda agree with your second point, I probably would never set foot on Transit outside of rail/bus fanning if I had a car lol. Unless I'm going to Lower or Midtown Manhattan... kinda hard to find parking at those places.... Unless I was really wealthy then parking garage it is!!! |
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Posted by TheHat on Thu May 26 21:05:43 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:02:44 2011. IDK the master plan, but a large portion on cuts and changes leave only one reason for so many things not ot make sense. That appears that it is done w/ the intent to make service worse off in all aspects as possible. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:18:08 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 18:01:22 2011. Yeah, driving in and around New York City is such a pleasure! |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu May 26 21:25:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:18:08 2011. Late at night, it is! :) |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:27:50 2011, in response to MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Gold_12th on Thu May 26 03:36:39 2011. Bus riders tend to be less affluent than subway ridersWhere did they come up with that? Maybe if you compare suburban bus riders to commuter train riders, or Greyhound bus riders to Amtrak riders... but to me, bus riders and subway riders in major cities like New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia are just about equal... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:31:08 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by JAzumah on Thu May 26 21:25:28 2011. Even then, I wouldn't call it a "pleasure", but I admit it's definitely do-able! If only the taxis didn't run for a couple of hours each night, driving around Manhattan would be a "pleasure" for sure! :-) |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 21:39:42 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:31:08 2011. If the taxis didn't run period, getting around Manhattan in the surface would be easier. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:42:09 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 21:39:42 2011. But of course!! :-) |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu May 26 21:46:27 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 26 16:28:32 2011. I don't understand how you are so sure that there is no NJ-SI market. It's not even worth debating as it is something that is very necessary. A connection to at least the Northeast Corridor line would definitely have ridership and it doesn't have to be a route from Port Richmond, it should be a route that would serve Staten Island as whole such as the S53. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:34:51 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:18:08 2011. I don't know about you, but when you mostly work at nights in Queens it is. If you prefer the dirty, smelly subways that's up to you pal although I think you'd be alone on that one if this weren't a rail-related board. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:36:02 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Thu May 26 21:27:50 2011. Having to ride the bus is generally considered shameful. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 22:37:29 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:36:02 2011. I ride the bus. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:41:14 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 22:37:29 2011. It's more prevalent in the suburbs, but having to ride the bus is generally considered a mark of shame although the subway is more acceptable for whatever reason. This was discussed on OT Chat some time ago. |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:54:38 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu May 26 21:46:27 2011. If it is very much necessary then why hasn't the MTA expanded S89 service to operate outside of rush hours yet? |
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Posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:55:56 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:41:14 2011. Talk about a double standard...public transportation is public transportation, rail or bus. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 22:56:27 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:54:38 2011. I rode the S89 in December from Etlingville SIR to Bayonne. I forget how many people crossed the bridge besides me and the 3 other fans I was with at the time. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 22:57:23 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:55:56 2011. +1And for the record, future Philly trips are likely to be done by bus since I keep having recurring return trip issues with NJT. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 23:10:54 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:55:56 2011. Try explaining that to he who got shot at the Puerto Rican Day Parade. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 23:11:11 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:55:56 2011. Buses are slow in addition to being smelly and dirty like the subway, and are normally used by poorer people in areas where rapid transit isn't available. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 23:14:37 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 23:11:11 2011. Then why does Lakeland do Dover-PABT in less time then NJTRO does Dover-NYP? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 23:18:15 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 23:14:37 2011. Because push-pull operation doesn't mix with closely spaced stops, an Arrow would most definitely give Lakeland a run for its money if it could. |
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Posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 23:21:01 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 23:18:15 2011. The Direct on the 46 takes about an hour to do Dover-PABT. Rockaway Mall expresses are timed for about 50 minutes and that's with a Parsippany stop. Can an Arrow III make that time having to open and close both traps and doors at each stop? |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu May 26 23:35:48 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu May 26 18:07:25 2011. @1:12..."It's like a comic book, but it takes like McDonald's, but I got it from the 7 Eleven for 5 dollars"But that's not even real rap... :( and ROLFMAO. Nice RTS though...I miss riding them. But yeah, I see that happen on buses down here too... |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 23:36:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by NJT Morris Rider on Thu May 26 23:21:01 2011. The Direct most definitely would not take an hour on a 46 even if it ran express from Summit, more like an hour 10 minutes. On the other hand, and Arrow can do Dover to Newark making all stops in 50 minutes. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu May 26 23:41:05 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by LRG5784 on Thu May 26 22:54:38 2011. I would assume due to financial reasons. When they added the S89, it wasn't an addition to SI bus service, it was a trade-off as they cut local service on other lines to make room for the S89. |
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Posted by dkupf on Thu May 26 23:44:58 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by B49 Limited on Thu May 26 11:10:26 2011. MTA's service planners' psyche is that ridership is not elastic, but the recent fare increases and the 6/27/10 service cuts proved otherwise. The planners are ignorant or incompetent, usually both.First, Operations Planning has to be shifted from the Office of Management and budget, i.e. the bean counters, to Service Operations. Next, the planners should either go through reeducation or lose their jobs. The class could be taught by Brooklynbus, the one who took the Brooklyn bus service changes from his master's thesis to fruition in November 1978 (bear in mind that this is only half of what he wanted). There could also be guest lecturers from other cities, e.g., Philadelphia and Toronto. MTA's planners need a heavy reality check, because at this point in time, most don't deserve their jobs. Plain and simple. |
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Posted by dkupf on Thu May 26 23:47:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by JAzumah on Thu May 26 17:19:52 2011. True. Most supervisors think of staff as mules and the riding public as cattle. |
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Posted by dkupf on Thu May 26 23:57:35 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu May 26 14:25:25 2011. The same could be said of the B103. One could take the riders that shifted from the express buses to the B103 and still wouldn't make up for the gains in ridership since being taken over by the MTA. |
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Posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 00:05:33 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 15:07:41 2011. IMO, the only thing that has to be done to the S54 is to operate via Richmond Av and the SI Mall between Seaview Hospital and Arthur Kill Rd.For the S57, this should be the route that operates via Mill Rd, coordinated with the SIR, not the S76. |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 27 00:08:40 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu May 26 23:35:48 2011. Too bad the dude in the green jacket in this video is not around with these types come on the bus lol... |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 27 00:10:11 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri May 27 00:08:40 2011. These types as in the annoying people who loudly sing on the bus, that is. PS I'm a big John Mayer fan for anybody who cares. |
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Posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 00:11:12 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 17:46:42 2011. I think that the route should operate via Richmond Av and the SI Mall, because drivers use Rockland Av instead of Victory Blvd as the fast route to THE trip generator of Staten Island. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri May 27 00:27:34 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 15:13:30 2011. A bad reputation? Not at Jamaica Center. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 27 00:38:36 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 26 10:58:07 2011. However, shoppers in Staten Island do go to Elizabeth to pay less tax. I do believe that a route to IKEA and Jersey Gardens would meet loading guidelines. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 00:39:31 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by dkupf on Thu May 26 23:44:58 2011. The class could be taught by Brooklynbus AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA AHA HAHA AHAH AHAH AHA AH AHAH AHAHA AH AH AHA HA AHAHA HAHAAH AHAHA HA AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAH AAH AHAHAHAAHA HA!!!!!! |
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Posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 00:55:28 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 00:39:31 2011. He's a better service planner than the both of us combined. |
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Posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 01:04:31 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 00:05:33 2011. Why the S57? Because riders would have a more direct routing to the Oakwood Heights station than the roundabout nature of the S76 to the New Dorp station. Riders would have their travel time to St. George, and Manhattan, reduced by up to 15 minutes!And that's as good as gold. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 27 01:18:34 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu May 26 14:08:01 2011. Re: S54 - Discontinue that route and restructure the S61 into two services: a full-time S61 and a Monday-Saturday only S63. The S61 would keep its routing, but the S63 would take the Wagner traffic and serve the Todt Hill Houses via Manor Road, Brielle Avenue, and Walcott Avenue, eventually meeting the S61 at Walcott and Forest Hill Road.The S63 would run 6 AM to 7 PM weekdays and 9 AM to 5 PM on Saturdays. With 4 buses now off the road, the savings could be put into a service that serves the shopping centers in Elizabeth, if nowhere else. As for the S57, perhaps the MTA should increase headways on the route to 45 minutes to take a bus off the route during the midday and on weekends, and I would restructure the route in New Dorp to have it take the S76 routing into New Dorp and Oakwood. On the S76, every other bus from the ferry should be cut back to terminate at Clove Road, as Oakwood is probably overserved during the midday, and its service span should also be reduced as well. I wold restore Saturday S76 service, but only between St. George and Grasmere, made possible by cutting every other S76 run to Clove Road on weekdays. New Dorp and Oakwood would have the S57. The midday reductions would take a bus off the S76. The S86 would also be discontinued, in favor of maintaining short-turns in Grasmere/Clifton. On Richmond Road, five buses per hour should be sufficient service, and short-turns would have a scheduled 7-minute layover in Grasmere. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 27 01:24:52 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by dkupf on Fri May 27 00:05:33 2011. Guyon Avenue, however, probably does not need a bus. What the S57 could do is act as an alternate route into Oakwood by going straight down Mill Road instead of over to Cedar Grove Avenue. Separately, I would have fewer S76 buses in Oakwood, as I would truncate every other S76 to Clifton.As I see it, however, the MTA can only get savings if it is then interlined with the S53 and re-assigned to Castleton instead of Yukon. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 27 01:28:57 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 27 01:24:52 2011. Also, the MTA needs to put in elevators at the New Dorp station and on at least a few other stations south of Eltingville. It's perfectly understandable why there is no bus route for most of Amboy Road, but it does need accessibility, and with accessibility, bus service can be further reduce. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri May 27 02:43:51 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 26 22:34:51 2011. With how congested roads can be, driving to work on a daily basis is not a great idea. bumper to bumper traffic and dealing with others trying to cut you off for a chance to advance further...I'd rather just pay to ride and let the driver 'deal with the traffic'. One less stress to worry about. If you lived in the suburbs, then I guess you have a point. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Fri May 27 02:45:58 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Thu May 26 18:58:03 2011. depends what time of day you intend on driving.. if it's the rush hour periods, then forget it. Stay away from the major bridges/tunnels/highways/etc. You'll just be wasting $ on gas from sitting idle in bumper to bumper traffic. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 27 02:47:30 2011, in response to Re: MTA Bus Ridership Dwindles As Subway Gains, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 27 00:39:31 2011. Looks like you are shitting . . . |
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