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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 20:53:48 2010, in response to Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Aug 19 20:29:38 2010. In addition, the company has its buses licensed in North Carolina. Don't they normally need to be licensed in New York? |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 20:58:57 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 20:53:48 2010. Wasn't the old X29 one of the routes that Joel ran before he was shut down by the city? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 21:05:57 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 20:58:57 2010. Yes...and this will be an even bigger s**tshow. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Aug 19 21:26:22 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 21:05:57 2010. Oh SNAP!I do find it interesting the amount of bad publicity Joel and Mr. S received, especially since they are carrying decent loads of passengers with their buses on their own dollar. It really makes me stroke my chin...I hate to cry conspiracy, but... |
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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by PATHman on Thu Aug 19 21:32:05 2010, in response to Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Aug 19 20:29:38 2010. Joel's buses were in better shape than that piece of turd in the picture yet the DOT shut his routes down. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 21:41:01 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Aug 19 21:26:22 2010. I was going to say something along those lines as well.Why did the city make such a stink right out of the gate when Joel tried to run the route but this Mr.S starts to run it and they don't even seem to say boo, what gives. The fact that the city won't say weather or not Mr.S has the paperwork to run the route is suspect to. I smell something wrong coming from the kitchen. |
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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 21:41:55 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by PATHman on Thu Aug 19 21:32:05 2010. Something doesn't smell right in the kitchen. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 21:45:59 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Thu Aug 19 21:26:22 2010. Mr. S. though deserves it; I may be prejudiced because I see that operator's buses almost every day. |
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Posted by aznboy4305 on Thu Aug 19 21:51:17 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by PATHman on Thu Aug 19 21:32:05 2010. Whats wrong with the "piece of turd" in the picture? There is one clearance light that is out, and it happens to be the center of the center cluster. Other than that...All the clearance lights, turn signals, headlights are of the proper color, they illuminate, and they are not cracked, broken, or missing. The windshield is clean and free of obstruction, and it is not cracked, broken, or missing. The windshield wipers appear to be mounted securely. The bus appears to be sitting properly, with no leaks visible under the front end. Both curb and street side mirrors appear to be present and mounted securely, and are assumed to be not cracked, broken, or missing. Bus appears perfectly safe and sound to me. So what exactly makes it a "piece of turd"...?? |
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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 21:55:54 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by aznboy4305 on Thu Aug 19 21:51:17 2010. Could have something to do with the Companies poor safety record then how the bus in the picture looks, though thats just my opinion.But remember thats just one bus, the other buses could be in worse and yeah better condition, then that bus in the picture. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:02:04 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 21:41:01 2010. Why did the city make such a stink right out of the gate when Joel tried to run the route but this Mr.S starts to run it and they don't even seem to say boo, what gives.That's very easy. I used Skyliner and Campus Coach, which provided a level of service equal to the MTA. This is why I am getting dragged through the courts. |
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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:09:49 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:02:04 2010. So the city doesn't want the same kind of service as the MTA, then what kind of service do they want? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:10:09 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 20:58:57 2010. I abandoned the X29 because I didn't want both of us to get knocked off the X29. At least the people had something until now. I declined to give Metro any information because I knew what would happen once Steve's buses surfaced. I bet that the NYCDOT didn't know that Steve was out there until this article ran. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:11:41 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:09:49 2010. None. They want to control everything and they do not want private operators running full sized buses anywhere and they will break the law (in my case) to make sure that happens. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:17:30 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:10:09 2010. wait so both you and Mr.S were running the X29.If so, then how did the NYCDOT not notice that, because i find that hard to believe that they did not know he was running the route as well as you. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Aug 19 22:28:03 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 22:11:41 2010. Two words: Atlantic Express. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:35:16 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Aug 19 22:28:03 2010. My dad use to tell me, when i was younger, that Atlantic Express was or part owned by the Mob.Anyway don't they have a contract with the MTA, to run the routes that they do? |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Aug 19 22:39:04 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Aug 19 22:28:03 2010. Two other words: not reallyCase-in-point: Look at who owns AE and look at his political connections and contributions. Anybody wonder why the TA has not taken over the DOT express services from them? It's not really about the lack of funds.... |
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Posted by metrolinecoach111 on Thu Aug 19 22:40:56 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by PATHman on Thu Aug 19 21:32:05 2010. But then again, Joel has wet-lease contracts out on them for those commuter services (and they are of touring quality). |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 23:46:23 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:17:30 2010. I was in the paper and he was not. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 23:47:58 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Aug 19 22:28:03 2010. Interstate (NYCDOT can't stop it) |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 23:54:59 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Thu Aug 19 23:46:23 2010. That makes sense, but how did you get into the paper and he didn't, nobody else saw another company running the X29, besides yours? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 20 08:24:24 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 21:55:54 2010. In addition, this company has at least 3 or 4 buses, but in the SAFER database, it is listed as having just one. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Aug 20 15:46:12 2010, in response to Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Aug 19 20:29:38 2010. It can be argued that he is able to make money on these routes at that price because he is cutting corners on maintenance. |
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Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Aug 20 21:17:52 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 20 08:24:24 2010. On a kinda related topic, the SAFER database says that Suffolk Bus Corp has one driver and one Power Unit.So maybe the database made a mistake. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 20 21:48:39 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Fri Aug 20 15:46:12 2010. I am not challenging the integrity of Mr.S's operators, but if he is taking over a NYCT bus route where the operators were subject to random drug/alcohol testing, are his operators subject to the same thing?His buses are very worn out and older than NYCT stock that are being "replaced". Some of his fleet were formerly owned by Rurak Ocean Tours, a company that used to be based in Greenpoint which did a lot of Atlantic City work. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 20 22:53:22 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 20 21:48:39 2010. Isn't that a company that was purchased by Academy? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 20 22:58:03 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Aug 20 22:53:22 2010. I'm not sure.All I can say is the route to AC from Greenpoint is now served by Classic Coach with their modern fleet of royal blue MCI's. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 21 00:32:31 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 20 21:48:39 2010. All buses in interstate commerce are subject to drug and alcohol regulations, so they are all subject to random testing. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 21 07:25:37 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 21 00:32:31 2010. My followup question: is NYCT's regulations more stringent?NYCT has a daily quota. In other words, does an operator have a better chance of being "called" at NYCT. My gut feeling is yes. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Aug 21 16:42:18 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 21 07:25:37 2010. Probably...NYCT is its own insurance company. |
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Posted by kahlua on Sun Aug 22 13:22:21 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Aug 19 22:35:16 2010. That's funny I used to hear that Amboy bus was mob owned... |
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Posted by BusMgr on Sun Aug 22 17:38:46 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Aug 20 21:48:39 2010. I am not challenging the integrity of Mr.S's operators, but if he is taking over a NYCT bus route where the operators were subject to random drug/alcohol testing, are his operators subject to the same thing?My followup question: is NYCT's regulations more stringent? FTA grant recipients and sub-recipients (with certain exceptions for railroads and ferry operators regulated by the FRA and USCG) are subject to the FTA alcohol and drug regulations at 49 C.F.R. Part 655. Bus operators that are not recipients or sub-recipients of FTA grants are subject to the FMCSA alcohol and drug regulations at 49 C.F.R. Part 382. Both the FTA and the FMCSA regulations rely on the U.S. Department of Transportation alcohol and drug testing procedures at 49 C.F.R. Part 40. The New York City Transit Authority has no regulations relating to alcohol and drug testing. They may have internal practices and rules, but nothing codified as a regulations. The NYCTA regulations relate only to fares, paratransit service, and rules of conduct. See 21 NYCRR Chapter XXI. The FMCSA regulations do differ from the FTA regulations, and I think many people find the FTA regulations more stringent. But as for effectiveness I have seen no evidence of one being significantly more so than the other. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Aug 22 20:24:31 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by kahlua on Sun Aug 22 13:22:21 2010. Amboy is the name of the company that my old school district uses for bus transport, but with Atlantic Express's name on the buses, the company also provides transport for the school district my father attended in the 70's. So The buses may have been Amboy back then and switched by the 90's so when he says Atlantic Express he may mean Amboy. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 22 21:54:42 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by BusMgr on Sun Aug 22 17:38:46 2010. NYCT has a very strict internal policy as it pertains to alcohol and drug testing. The passengers who have lost NYCT employees serving them on express buses in favor of private operators have lost a level of safety as it pertains to this issue.Why? Because it is NYCT's way of doing things to put the fear of God into their employees in all titles to make them perform. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sun Aug 22 22:28:04 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 22 21:54:42 2010. Even a good person can mess up if you put the fear of god into them. Thats why i think putting the fear of god into someone is a bad practice. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Mon Aug 23 00:15:20 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Aug 22 21:54:42 2010. The passengers who have lost NYCT employees serving them on express buses in favor of private operators have lost a level of safety as it pertains to this issue.Let me put it to you this way: an operator that has a problem with drivers & drug and alcohol compliance WILL NOT get insurance of any kind. These operators tend not to operate commuter routes of any sort due to the scrutiny. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Mon Aug 23 09:34:02 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by JAzumah on Mon Aug 23 00:15:20 2010. I see...It's important to remember guys that these aren't illegal companies operating these routes. It's just really bad that every time someone starts something up, there's some sort of negative publicity (outside of the TWU Express operation, of course). |
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Posted by caine515 on Mon Aug 23 12:40:28 2010, in response to Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Aug 19 20:29:38 2010. for the last 3 days i have seen this post and said nothing but i have decided to finally respond.I work(hopefully still do) as a checker for Transport Azumaeh. Day one i was assigned to the X29 service. Azumaeh was competing with MR S. service. I for one am not a fan of Mr. S because of the condition of the buses. They were crowded compared to Azumaeh. Most people rode it. Why you ask..if its there, they will use it. Not becuase the bus may or may not be in good shape..because people dont know any better. Eventually i wound up as check for the X90 route. Great work enviornment. I was disheartened when the city cut Azumeah X90 service down. Not only was this a blow to me($$) but to the riders on the Upper East Side who no longer have service. Will the city restore the X29 or X90? No. Will Mr S. continue to operate the X29? Yes. Why? Because riders will use it. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Aug 23 14:43:59 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Mac5689 on Sun Aug 22 20:24:31 2010. Amboy, SI Bus co, and a few others are owned by Atlantic Express. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Mon Aug 23 19:38:16 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by aznboy4305 on Thu Aug 19 21:51:17 2010. LMAO sounds exactly like what you say word for word on your pre-trip inspection on the road test |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Aug 30 12:50:52 2010, in response to Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by Gold_12th on Thu Aug 19 20:29:38 2010. Whoa!! This guy lives not too far from me. Down the street........ |
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Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Mon Aug 30 12:51:44 2010, in response to Re: Mr. S Charter Services picks up X29 route from MTA cuts, w/ poor safety record, posted by AMoreira81 on Thu Aug 19 21:45:59 2010. He's from the neighborhood...... |
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