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Posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008 http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/07/express_bus_rider_report_cards.html |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 4 19:27:32 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. LinkedYes, MTA has some work to do here... |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. The MTA needs to get over themselves already, there is no lingering anger from last summer.They need to realize that the service on Staten Island is abysmal and something Needs to be done! Yesterday afternoon around 6:00pm, I waited 35 minutes for a St George bound S44 bus, when it should be running every 15 minutes. (*NOTE: Cleaninless is not my issue, it's the physical service provided, as GOHed 9392 arrived and was very clean*) I think it's worth noticing that close 3,771 Staten Islanders took time out to express their opinions! That's almost a thousand (or over a thousand) more than any other borough. The MTA should not take this lightly and stride to make improvements to boost the grade. (Which I highly doubt if they're already coming up with excuses) If the express buses received a D+, Staten Island's Local Bus service is definitely destined to get between a D, D- or F. |
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Posted by mci guy on Fri Jul 4 20:04:40 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008. thats a very poor grafe for xbuses. anr they are not complaning because of bridge. they know nyct cannot control that. |
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Posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Jul 4 21:14:05 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008. [Yesterday afternoon around 6:00pm, I waited 35 minutes for a St George bound S44 bus, when it should be running every 15 minutes.]Sounds like a Road Control problem. The best schedule in the world is worthless if nobody is willing to actually operate it. |
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Posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 4 21:30:16 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 4 19:27:32 2008. basic delays with the express routes occured when early runs are on-time in the am..but get delayed going back to Staten Island. When i went to college in Staten Island, i used to take the s61. The driver had a run on the X2 line and if he was late getting back, the bus was late. Not sure if they still do split runs like this. Hopefully Charleston depot will alleiate the situation. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jul 4 21:52:26 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by caine515 on Fri Jul 4 21:30:16 2008. There are express/local runs at Yukon although Yukon doesn't have any Suburban RTS/Orion V? |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jul 4 21:53:26 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008. Yeah, I also noticed that there are a lot of missing runs in Staten Island. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jul 4 22:01:09 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. Wow, the QM22 got mostly A's. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Fri Jul 4 22:02:52 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. YAWN!Here we go again. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 4 22:23:52 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. You still hoping a court decision would render the S89 route illegal because of jurisdictional (US DOT) issues?Nope, good try. |
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Posted by Andy on Fri Jul 4 23:27:19 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. I don't live on Staten Island; I live on Long Island where there is adequate LIRR service, at least in my area (SW part of Nassau). But I can sympathize. One issue not mentioned is historical. When the VZ bridge was designed (1957-59), rail tracks were specifically excluded thanks to Robert Moses, who was pro-auto and anti-transit. Today all New Yorkers live with his short-sighted legacy.The BMT could have accessed the VZ bridge by building a spur off of the Sea Beach Line (today's N) that would follow the Gowanus Expressway r.o.w. onto the bridge. Once on Staten Island the SI Railway could have been used. Many Staten Islanders would have had rail access to Manhattan, something sorely lacking today and probably never to happen. Buses would not have been the only means for a one-vehicle ride to/from Manhattan. What a shame. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 5 00:48:45 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Andy on Fri Jul 4 23:27:19 2008. The BMT could have accessed the VZ bridge by building a spur off of the Sea Beach Line (today's N) that would follow the Gowanus Expressway r.o.w. onto the bridge. Once on Staten Island the SI Railway could have been used. Many Staten Islanders would have had rail access to Manhattan, something sorely lacking today and probably never to happen. Buses would not have been the only means for a one-vehicle ride to/from Manhattan. What a shame.The BMT was actually looking to extend the (R) train from 95th Street to the Grasmere SIR Station! Even though it would have been better than nothing, I don't know about that one as the (N) and (R) take their sweet old time whether they're local or express. I definitely agree with your points OTOH. It is a shame what Staten Island has come down to. I look upon Staten Island as though a 12 year old was playing a (disaster-free) game of SimCity and everything went wrong. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Sat Jul 5 01:10:24 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jul 4 19:27:32 2008. I looked at the results. X63 riders were too generous. Granted, I like the route since it's the route I use the most but it's a rush hour-only route that doesn't run as frequently as it should. There is a bunching problem. The schedules aren't listed at any bus stop. The X1 received a lousy score-and I partially agree. On Memorial day I busfanned the X1 to Staten Island. I got to Broadway and Park Place around 3:45PM. After a 10 minute wait the bus arrived. It was so packed that I had to let it go. The second bus arrived 4 minutes later. It had 5 open seats. I managed to get a seat. However, by the time it reached the Battery Tunnel there were people standing in the aisle. The worst part was that there was this man standing next to me who weighed about 300 pounds. He smelled like he hadn't showered in a month. I had to smell that from the Battery all the way to the Verrazano. Ironically, when it arrived in Eltingville there were two buses right behind it. The express bus is the best option for traveling, but there is room for improvement. |
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Posted by Operator3319 on Sat Jul 5 02:40:51 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Forest Glen on Sat Jul 5 01:10:24 2008. I find it to be a joke that there are no results for the BM5 the QM22 and QM23 routes are a joke those should be incorporated into other routes |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 02:50:49 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Gotham Bus Co. on Fri Jul 4 21:14:05 2008. DING!Makes you wonder what 9/2 is going to be like, if it occurs on schedule. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 06:26:28 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jul 4 21:52:26 2008. ves. |
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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(changes on 9/2) |
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Posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 06:41:13 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 02:50:49 2008. What changes will riders see come 9/2. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 06:46:34 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 5 00:48:45 2008. >>I look upon Staten Island as though a 12 year old was playing a (disaster-free) game of SimCity and everything went wrong.<<The sad thing is that it is middle aged men that are causing most of the damage. Somehow, they figured how to get the money out of the game into their pockets. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 07:10:19 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jul 4 22:23:52 2008. NJDOT was seen at some weird locations in the past month. They were hanging out in East Brunswick checking Coach USA buses full of commuters. Couple that with their visit to Bergen Avenue and you can tell that something has changed. |
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Posted by Andy on Sat Jul 5 08:34:51 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 5 00:48:45 2008. In the 1920's, as part of the Dual Contracts, a tunnel was begun that would have linked the 4th Avenue BMT between the 59th and 69th Street Stations with Staten Island. As many people have commented on SubTalk in the past, construction was stopped after about a year and never resumed. On the S.I. side the SIR would have been used, of course. At the same time the SIR electrified its lines with a 3rd rail and cars that could fit into BMT tunnels. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 10:44:22 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008. With this being the case...I really wonder if a route like the S53 (all) or S79 (split) should be transferred to Brooklyn Division...if Ulmer Park can get the room, with the B3 being moved to Flatbush, and the B64 or B1 being moved to Gleason (which have room following the loss of the B43, B47, and B61 this year to Grand Avenue). |
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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(changes on 9/2) |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 5 11:12:19 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(changes on 9/2), posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 06:41:13 2008. If you don't get an answer, please don't start a new thread. You'll find out what the changes are when the pick is posted for the operators. |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 5 11:15:38 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 02:50:49 2008. As Chipper10 asked, what's going on September 2nd?Are they adding service, removing service, what? |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 11:55:35 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Jul 5 11:15:38 2008. The alleged X23 and X24 takeover. |
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Posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 11:59:33 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 10:44:22 2008. Where did you hear that the B3 is going to Flatbush and either the B1 or B64 buses going to Jackie Gleason Depot, is this going to happen with the Fall 2008 pick. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 12:09:00 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(changes on 9/2), posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 06:41:13 2008. -The newspaper companies printing their 9/2 edition papers. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Sat Jul 5 12:55:39 2008, in response to Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Fri Jul 4 17:22:29 2008. Give SI to NJ and let NJ transit operate their services...then they'll crawl back to the MTA... they're lucky they're only paying 5 dollars for the ride they get in to the city... |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:15:47 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Forest Glen on Sat Jul 5 01:10:24 2008. The best way to ride the express bus is to get on at the first stop -- namely, 6th Avenue and Central Park South. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:16:09 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(changes on 9/2), posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Jul 5 12:09:00 2008. you knew chipper wuold post on that one. well for starters museum buses will be running on all si routes. the big three hammertoes baked sanders and roberts say you dont like it now wait till batwing 8466 makes its debut on the x1 and 8928 on the x10. and they are praying for a hot early sept since none of those buses havv air conditioning. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:17:19 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 06:46:34 2008. old men and they are experts on this game. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:19:29 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 11:59:33 2008. he didnt and believe me it never would. ATU would close down yukon and castleton first. |
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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this) |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:20:30 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:19:29 2008. im talking also about s53 residing at ulmer park. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:23:13 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by JAzumah on Sat Jul 5 11:55:35 2008. i doubt it joel. they still didnt get the buses from mci and have no place to put them AE does not want the lines and if not taken over you can bet a good screwing for those commuters i.e. missing buses etc. |
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Posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:24:29 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:15:47 2008. too bad nobody does. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 5 15:29:09 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 11:59:33 2008. As usual, you have once again proven your lack of reading comprehension skills. He said that "he wondered". Then he was expressing his personal ideas. He never said that any of that stuff would in fact happen. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 5 15:32:39 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Jul 5 13:15:47 2008. They'd only be happy if the bus was always waiting for them rather than the other way around. Then once on the bus, the only way they'd be happy if they had no seat mate so they could spread out. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 20:17:34 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Jul 5 15:29:09 2008. And the biggest obstacle to that happening...JOBS in that ATU 726 garages would LOSE jobs to TWU 100 garages. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Jul 5 20:41:54 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Fri Jul 4 19:59:31 2008. Don't get me wrong, but Staten Islanders are going to have to make themselvers heard by submitting statements at board meetings to get the attention of 347 Madison. Increased pressure gets results, especially the issue of no-show vehicles...although this issue may be citywide at this time. |
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Posted by JAzumah on Sun Jul 6 00:47:06 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by mci guy on Sat Jul 5 15:23:13 2008. Atlantic Express has already cut four buses out of the schedule last year with NYSDOT's blessing. I am sure that they will be allowed to cut more if need be. NYSDOT isn't going $1 above $2.5 million in subsidy. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 06:11:48 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Forest Glen on Sat Jul 5 01:10:24 2008. The worst part was that there was this man standing next to me who weighed about 300 pounds. He smelled like he hadn't showered in a month. I had to smell that from the Battery all the way to the Verrazano.Ah ahahahahahahaha! Sucks for you!!!! The express bus is the best option for traveling WTF are you smoking????? you just gave so many negative reasons! 1. not frequent enough 2. very crowded, had to let the first one go 3. second one had only 5 open seats 4. smelly people standing near you 5. lots of standees 6. got to destination and 2 more buses were right behind it You know what that means? that means that express buses are SUCKY way to travel. Get it right. |
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Posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 6 11:22:54 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 06:11:48 2008. The X1 is not representative of most express buses. I've have no problems when I busfanned the Bronx express routes. 90% of the time the X63 gives me no problems. Express buses take you straight from home to the CBD. They have comfortable seats and are usually fast. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 11:32:16 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Forest Glen on Sun Jul 6 11:22:54 2008. Guess what? The 1 train takes me right from my home to the CBD. It has comfortable seats and is usually fast. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 6 12:06:33 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 11:32:16 2008. The one train only sucks when you are on it. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 6 15:33:47 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 11:32:16 2008. It has comfortable seatsMCI Seats >>> R62 Seats. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sun Jul 6 12:06:33 2008. Hey..I didn't know that the Broadway/7th avenue Local went to RIVERDALE.The MAP sez it only goes as far as VAN COURTLANDT. Funny how that works out.. |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Jul 6 16:59:36 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008. You don't know the borders of riverdale... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 17:01:19 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sun Jul 6 15:33:47 2008. I feel perfectly fine in an R-62A seat. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 17:02:06 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service, posted by Edwards! on Sun Jul 6 16:10:45 2008. Obviously you don't know wtf you're talking about, lol. |
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Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this) |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 6 17:25:41 2008, in response to Re: Staten Islanders unsatisfied with MTA bus service(hear about this), posted by Chipper10 on Sat Jul 5 11:59:33 2008. From Xenu. |
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