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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:26:25 2010 Here are some more shots of the ALP-45DP, courtesy of W. Koch, MTA Metro-North Railroad              Thank you for viewing!! Hope you have enjoyed!! :-) |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 19:33:03 2010, in response to PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:26:25 2010. Hopefully, those things will never be used if Christie prevents the construction of the new tunnel...or if it gets done, wait till after I retire! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:37:10 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 19:33:03 2010. Well, talk of these coming I have heard before the tunnel was discussed!! Grin and bear it buddy, they are on their way!! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Oct 2 19:53:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 19:33:03 2010. They can still be used without a tunnel. By extending current electric services, these thing can be used on the NJCL and M&E without any added capacity necessary. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 20:25:11 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:37:10 2010. Nah, they never were in that much detail back then. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 20:38:31 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:37:10 2010. I'm just saying that if the new tunnel is never built, they are not going to run the Raritan trains (or any other diesel lines) into New York , so there will be no need for those things. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 20:46:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Oct 2 19:53:12 2010. I know they could be used, but there would be no need for them if the tunnel is never built. Unless the existing fleet of engines get old and they can use these to take their place anywhere in the system? But then things could get complicated with the fueling situation if they end up staying away from fuel pads for any extended period...who knows? |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 21:06:38 2010, in response to PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:26:25 2010. Great pics Paul :) Thanks to Mr. Koch and Thanks 2 u 4 posting :) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Oct 2 21:11:20 2010, in response to PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:26:25 2010. interesting |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 21:26:52 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 20:38:31 2010. Not even for the NJCL, eh . . . ? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 21:36:20 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 21:26:52 2010. As far as I know, there's absolutely no room for any more trains into NYC with the existing tunnels, so unless they eliminate some NE Corridor trains, I would say no... |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 21:42:50 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 21:36:20 2010. Thought they would have recombined some Long Branch trains with Bay Head shuttles myself . . . |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:46:19 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 21:06:38 2010. You are quite welcome, good buddy!! :-)Just one thing......this engine is HIDEOUS!! I hope its performance trumps its hideous looks!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:47:14 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Oct 2 21:11:20 2010. I sincerely hope it will have great reliability and road performance to trump its absolutely hideous looks!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:55:31 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 20:25:11 2010. These locomotives will come along, whether they build this tunnel or not. I am quite sure NJT would like to get services beyond Long Branch (NJCL) and Morristown get into Midtown. Better accessibility = better service = happy customers willing to go by rail from "The Sticks" to Midtown Manhattan = $$$$$$, something NJT and the state of NJ need!! |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:57:14 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 21:36:20 2010. What about turning some Long Branch - Penn Station trains into Bay Head - Penn trains, with the needs for passengers to make transfers at Long Branch lessened?? (Combining in other words) |
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Posted by Amtrak guy on Sat Oct 2 22:09:39 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 19:37:10 2010. Tremendous as always. |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 22:10:44 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:46:19 2010. I agree but it is made by Bombardier. Let's hope they make trains better than planes. :) |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:11:07 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Amtrak guy on Sat Oct 2 22:09:39 2010. Thanks, good buddy!! Keep an eye for their premier over that side of the Hudson in due time!! :-) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 2 22:11:49 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 19:33:03 2010. SEPTA might piggyback and get some for services to Bethlehem / Reading... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:13:47 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 22:10:44 2010. Hope so too. But I have not heard a whole lot of bad things about the Bombardier jets. Many airlines are now using them as their choice for local, commuter flight routes, including JetBlue, US Airways and American, and Delta. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:13:52 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 22:10:44 2010. They make good aeroplanes.Let us just say, I have NEVER had to get out an push. Besides Aviation has a 100% record. They have NEVER left a plane up there. 
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Posted by WillD on Sat Oct 2 22:13:57 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 20:38:31 2010. Eh, they'll just find a way to screw the NEC local, M&E, and NJCL Matawan short turn trains in order to squeeze in a few RVL trains just to keep the upper management looking good for having the 'foresight' to order such 'revolutionary' rolling stock. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:14:33 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 2 22:11:49 2010. Let's not forget the plans still yet to run from NYC to Scranton and the Poconos region. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:16:00 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:14:33 2010. I have not forgotten the plans. But will my parents still be living in the Poconos when the trains finally get there?
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:23:37 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:16:00 2010. If they have the longevity, I am sure they will catch the first inaugural run (unless you get creative and model the line and run sooner with a layout creation of yours!! :-D) |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Oct 2 22:24:25 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 2 22:11:49 2010. Dear god I hope not. The last thing SEPTA needs is to both tie an albatross around their neck by ordering these ungodly dual fail locomotives. It'd be that much worse for them to do so while adding more suburban counties to their service area to further water down the city's representation on the SEPTA board while adding virtually nothing to the system's coffers.In any event it really doesn't look like the ALP45DP will make it through the 20th St portal and the wires around there. A 14 foot, 6 inch C424 grounded the overhead wire coming through there back in 2005. NJT's dual fails are nearly 15 feet tall, which is much too close for comfort to the overhead wire. Give us wire to Pottstown and Quakertown, or don't bother. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 22:26:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:14:33 2010. Those aren't supposed to run out of Manhattan. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 22:26:37 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Oct 2 22:11:49 2010. No dice. The only ones that dream of that are DVARP. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:27:18 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 22:26:12 2010. A locomotive like this, if successful, can very well make that possible. |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Oct 2 22:27:25 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:14:33 2010. It is never *ever* going to happen. Maybe Blairstown, but PA will never buck up to pay for their segment, especially after this year. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 22:28:03 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:55:31 2010. Not worth it for the amount of dough they spent on these beasts. Should have electrified instead. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 22:29:02 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:27:18 2010. If successful. But they still aren't going to do it over at NJT. Funny thing is, they may run out of Hoboken using ALP-45DPs, if they ever rebuild the line . . . |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:53:17 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:23:37 2010. Well *I* am 62 years old, and they are, well let us just say somewhat older than that. ☺
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Posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 23:01:23 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:13:47 2010. Yes but two of their planes recently made emergency landings with faulty landing gears. Delta at JFK and SkyJet in Detroit I think. But, they said it was a known issue too :( |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 23:02:35 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:13:52 2010. Lol, yeah but after 2 emergency landings in a week makes ya wonder. Also they are saying the landing gear issue was a known issue. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 23:29:46 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 22:10:44 2010. All I know is Bombardier made some bad-looking buses. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 3 03:38:19 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Oct 2 22:16:00 2010. They may have moved out. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 3 03:42:26 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sat Oct 2 20:46:12 2010. Why did things get turned upside down when Warrington became ED . . . ? |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 07:24:34 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 3 03:42:26 2010. Because he came from AMTRASH, and he brought a bunch of his "cronies" with him from there. They screwed things up. And some of them are still at NJT, even though Warrington is currently where he should be... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 07:34:12 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Oct 2 21:42:50 2010. Yeah, but the main problem is fueling. There are no fuel pads in New York, Long Branch, or Bay Head, so the engines still need to get to Hoboken for fueling. So it involves more than just combining a few trains. It also involves figuring out how and when to get the engines up to Hoboken fo fueling. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 07:34:52 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 21:57:14 2010. Yeah, but the main problem is fueling. There are no fuel pads in New York, Long Branch, or Bay Head, so the engines still need to get to Hoboken for fueling. So it involves more than just combining a few trains. It also involves figuring out how and when to get the engines up to Hoboken fo fueling. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 3 07:44:36 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sat Oct 2 22:27:18 2010. NJT is not going to waste a dual-mode and a slot into Manhattan with a 5 car train of almost all Pennsylvanians on board. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 09:43:50 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 07:34:52 2010. Well much like they do at Stamford here, where there is no actual on site fuel pad with on-grounds fuel facility, they can have a fuel truck arrive on a preset daily schedule and fuel the engines as needed. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 10:21:51 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 09:43:50 2010. I've never heard of that happening anywhere at NJT. I've only seen the trucks delivering fuel to the pads, never to individual engines. I could be wrong, but since NJT usually f%@&$ up anything that's different than their usual routine, I don't see it happening. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 10:43:37 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 10:21:51 2010. Daily at Stamford Yard, Santa Oil of Bridgeport, CT, delivers and fuels (with employees there to assist) engines during the day. They fuel the Mini-Bombs which get laid up at the yard during the day. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 10:44:33 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 10:21:51 2010. It could be implemented at the discretion of NJT, especially if it is more economical than maintaining a whole fuel facility. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 10:46:42 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by arnine on Sat Oct 2 23:01:23 2010. That does not always reflect the builder of the plane, but reflects the levels of maintenance at the owning airline company. Airtran Airways always had some top of the line planes, like new B-737s, B-717s, but they were once cited multiple times by the FAA for piss poor maintenance. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 11:05:01 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 10:44:33 2010. It sounds good, but we'll see what happens... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Oct 3 11:07:05 2010, in response to Re: PHOTOS : More ALP-45DP pics!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 3 10:43:37 2010. One problem at NJT is getting the "employees to assist". Their 8 hour naps and coffee breaks would be interrupted, so their union would have to get involved... :-) |
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