|
|
| Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches (955527) | |
 |
|
| Home > SubChat | |
[ Post a New Response | Return to the Index ]
[1 2] |
||
|
Page 2 of 2 |
||
|
| (955873) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 22:52:46 2010, in response to NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Jul 11 23:15:32 2010. Why are they taking the option when the first locomotive hasn't even been built yet, let alone passed testing? I would like them to just string wire and convert all of the ALP45DP orders to ALP46A. |
|
|
| (955874) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 22:55:33 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 22:52:46 2010. Not to EMUs? |
|
|
| (955876) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 23:03:43 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 22:55:33 2010. Easier to switch from Dual Power Locomotive to Electric Locomotive. The Arrow IV should come out of a competition between the M-8 and the Silverliner V and whatever Denver orders (likely an FRA compliant version of the Siemens Desiro). |
|
|
(Sponsored) |
iPhone 6 (4.7 Inch) Premium PU Leather Wallet Case - Red w/ Floral Interior - by Notch-It |
|
| (955880) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:14:21 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 23:03:43 2010. Easier to switch from Dual Power Locomotive to Electric LocomotiveYou sure about that? And besides, it's not easier to drop trailer cars in favor of MUs . . . ? Not to mention, I hope you're aware that the oldest ALP-44s are 20 years old while the newest are a mere 14 years old, and they're all getting retired?? The Arrow IV should come out of a competition between the M-8 and the Silverliner V and whatever Denver orders (likely an FRA compliant version of the Siemens Desiro) Where's the money coming from, for one thing . . . ? And Siemens Desiro for NJT?—there's no high-platform version, unless you want NJT to suddenly convert to all low platforms and stop all high-platform building, not to mention add 15 inches to the width and six feet to the length, plus get rid of the full-width cabs. |
|
|
| (955882) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 23:26:51 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:14:21 2010. There is a high platform version of the Desiro: England uses it. Class 350. |
|
|
| (955884) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:41:25 2010, in response to NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Jul 11 23:15:32 2010. This is insanity. Shouldn't they wait until they know for sure that these things will work as designed? |
|
|
| (955885) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:43:34 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 12 07:04:01 2010.  Probably indirectly, but yeah, that's where the money for everything is coming from these days. |
|
|
| (955886) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:45:17 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by 9 local on Mon Jul 12 23:26:51 2010. High platforms in England are over a foot shorter above rail than US high platforms; some are as many as 20 inches shorter. So how are you going to solve the width problem? |
|
|
| (955887) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:45:50 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:41:25 2010. And where's Christie to oversee this when you need him . . . ? |
|
|
| (955888) | |
Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:46:54 2010, in response to Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 12 13:00:37 2010. THE project will be built, but until it's ready these dual modes won't be able to be utilized as planned. That means they could all be 10-15 years old by the time they are. |
|
|
| (955889) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:49:47 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:45:50 2010. Dual modes are politically popular, and he's probably not up to speed on the particulars. |
|
|
| (955890) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:50:13 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:49:47 2010. So are BRTs and other porkulus. |
|
|
| (955891) | |
Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:50:38 2010, in response to Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:46:54 2010. I see THAT mess heading for disaster. |
|
|
| (955892) | |
Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:53:48 2010, in response to Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:50:38 2010. I think ARC will be built. NJ has too much invested into it. The real questions are when it will be ready and how much it will cost. |
|
|
| (955893) | |
Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 13 00:08:36 2010, in response to Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 12 23:53:48 2010. It'll lead to NJT going bankrupt.What makes it worse is Amtrak's new proposal to build their own tunnels, all because NJT didn't want to build the tunnels to the exising NYP as originally planned. (Should Amtrak ban NJT from their new tunnels, since NJT's new tunnels are useless to Amtrak?) |
|
|
| (955894) | |
Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 13 00:17:44 2010, in response to Re: NJT to waste more dough on 10 more ALP-45DPs and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 13 00:08:36 2010. If true, that's dumb. NJT is obsessed with getting every single one of it's trains into Manhattan, which I think is overkill. While most passengers might want to go to Midtown, there's just not enough demand to fill every seat on all the trains they want to route into the ARC tunnels. |
|
|
| (955904) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 13 01:37:02 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 18:58:03 2010. Therefore "Duh!". Too bad you didn't get it. |
|
|
| (955905) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 13 01:37:58 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 22:55:33 2010. What EMUs? etc... |
|
|
| (955906) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 13 01:50:41 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jul 12 23:14:21 2010. And Siemens Desiro for NJT?Siemens has alluded to making a FRA legal version of the Desiro ML units. They're otherwise known as the Class 460. |
|
|
| (955907) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 13 02:03:10 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 13 01:37:02 2010. Who said I didn't get it? Just because I spoke my mind doesn't mean I didn't get it. DUH. |
|
|
| (955909) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jul 13 02:04:22 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Jul 13 01:50:41 2010. They're going to have to build them longer and wider. They're already tall enough at the roofline, but not at the floor line for high platforms. |
|
|
| (956158) | |
Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches |
|
|
Posted by Joe V on Tue Jul 13 16:56:33 2010, in response to Re: NJT to authorize purchase of 10 more ALP45DP dual mode locomotives and 100 more Multilevel coaches, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Jul 12 20:42:18 2010. I think all 10 eventually went to Colorado. |
|
|
[1 2] |
||
|
Page 2 of 2 |
||
