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Posted by 7 to Main St on Mon May 30 08:41:32 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Rail Blue on Mon May 30 08:20:34 2005. Maybe so, but the 3rd ave el died as the #8, the old #8 only had a "sex change". |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 09:05:28 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Broadway Junction on Mon May 30 07:24:49 2005. Three, or are New Lots and Utica not distinct?The N sometimes runs full local, sometimes runs express south of Canal, sometimes runs express south of Times Square. Should it get three different letters? (I'll bet the distinction affects a lot more people than the distinction between Dyre and 238th!) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon May 30 09:25:42 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by South Ferry on Mon May 30 00:44:39 2005. Yeah just you wont see the diamond anymore. |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 10:32:55 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 02:31:05 2005. I can't believe you guys have managed to go through this entire discussion of whether or not to rename the handful of <5> trains that have a different terminal without addressing the A-Lefferts and A-FarRock issue. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon May 30 10:34:30 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 10:32:55 2005. Maybe the A-Lefferts and A-Far Rock issue deserves its own thread and will be discussed at a near future date. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon May 30 10:38:35 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by daDouce Man on Mon May 30 10:34:30 2005. Nah, that "which A train" thing has gone on for so many decades, it's one of those "you're from the city if you know THIS ONE" thingies. :) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon May 30 10:41:55 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by 7 to Main St on Mon May 30 00:56:16 2005.  How exactly was that photo taken? Patience is a virtue, posess it if you can. Seldom found in women, and... damn, I forgot the rest of that thing. Never found in hungry LIONs. OK LION says: First issue, the diamond 5 LEDs. The whole sign is in tact. High intensity LEDs cycle on and off hundreds of times per second otherwise they would burn out. So most cameras will show a broken end sign, and that is what I thought he was asking about. Easily fixed with a longer time exposure. Second issus, the position of the camera, in the middle of the tracks. OK we are following a diamond 5 train, we are after all looking at the rear tail lights. But what are we standing on. Not another R142, for there would be more windows and distortion. So either the photo was taken by a T/O or it was taken on an MOD trip. But hey, doesn't the diamond 5 NOT run on MOD days (weekends). So a T/O took the pixture. ROAR |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 10:43:02 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 10:32:55 2005. As long as the Far Rock and Lefferts trains are otherwise identical, I don't think they should have different names -- but I do agree that renaming one of the A branches makes more sense than renaming a few 5 trains. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 10:48:49 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon May 30 10:41:55 2005. Could have been taken on a Redbird or even R-62A single (if the camera had the wrong date set).Sometimes for weekend GO's (specifically when the Dyre branch is closed), some crews sign 5 trains as diamond-5's. It could have been such a weekend (again, assuming an improperly set date). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 10:55:01 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon May 30 10:41:55 2005. That photo was taken by Dante, and it was taken recently. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 12:31:24 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 10:32:55 2005. You're right! We missed that one.I agree that they should have different letters. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 12:33:53 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 10:43:02 2005. "but I do agree that renaming one of the A branches makes more sense than renaming a few 5 trains. "In the first place, Charles never "agreed" with that, and in the second place, your statement is false. It isn't a "few trains" it's a full rush hour service (of course I agree some people don't know the difference). |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 13:06:07 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 12:33:53 2005. Why don't you let Charles express for himself what he agrees with?There are a total of 12 trains from 238th (all in the AM rush, bound for Flatbush, Utica, or Bowling Green, depending on the train) and a total of 12 trains to 238th (all in the PM rush, coming from Flatbush, New Lots, or Bowling Green, depending on the train). There is only one rush-hour-only peak-direction-only service that has its own designation, the Z. It has to have its own letter since it has the same terminals as the J, so there's no other way to tell the two services apart. If the different north terminals warrant different numbers, then don't different south terminals also warrant different numbers? So the 5 should be split into at least ten different designations (Dyre - Bowling Green, Dyre - Flatbush, Dyre - Utica/New Lots, 238 - Bowling Green, 238 - Flatbush, 238 - Utica/New Lots, E180 - Bowling Green, E180 - Flatbush, E180 - Utica/New Lots). |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:04:16 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 13:06:07 2005. "Why don't you let Charles express for himself what he agrees with?"You're the one who claimed to speak for him. I merely pointed out your fabrication. Next time try honesty - it works really well. (The Z): "It has to have its own letter since it has the same terminals as the J, so there's no other way to tell the two services apart." I agree with you there. Although you could also do that via J1 or J2 etc. But the current system works very well. "If the different north terminals warrant different numbers, then don't different south terminals also warrant different numbers?" Only to differentiate branches. So a Dyre-Flatbush train would have a number, and a Dyre to New Lots train a different number. I could see four different numbers legitimately here. The others are simply truncations. WMATA's Red Line doesn't become the Purple Line just because some trains turn short of the final stop. The Q30 bus terminates, southbound, variously at the LIRR, or Jamaica Center, or prior to that. But the route number does not change. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 14:07:53 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:04:16 2005. And you think having five differently numbered services on the East Side express would reduce confusion?! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:11:12 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 14:07:53 2005. Yes, because each is a distinct service.By your logic, we could eliminate the numbers on the West Side IRT, call it the Red Line (due to the colored bullet) and just remind people to read the destination sign. Simple, right? |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 14:44:19 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:11:12 2005. No. The 2/3 distinction is analogous to the 4/5 distinction. The circle-5/diamond-5 distinction is minor. It should be marked (remember, I started off by saying that eliminating the diamonds was stupid) but using separate numbers for minor service variants at the line's extremities is unnecessary and confusing. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:50:16 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 14:44:19 2005. "No. The 2/3 distinction is analogous to the 4/5 distinction"So what? Make the Lexington Av service the Green Line and get rid of those numbers too. The Flushing Line becomes the Purple Line. That would be consistent, at least, unlike your inconsistent and illogical scheme. "but using separate numbers for minor service variants at the line's extremities is unnecessary and confusing. " They are not minor service variants. They are important branching services. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:02:33 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:50:16 2005. In case you were unaware, all Flushing line trains carry the same number.NYCT has decided that a small branch near the end of a line (as found on the A, E, 2, and 5) does not warrant a separate designation. The 2 and 3 branch in Manhattan; the 4 and 5 branch after only one shared stop in the Bronx. That's more than a small branch and it's not near the end of the line, so different numbers are used. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 30 15:05:05 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 14:50:16 2005. There are so many examples of multiple routings. It's all a question of where to draw the line and designate a new service. In order of decreasing importance (in terms of people likely to be confused): J/Z < 6 > to Pelham Bay or (6) to Parkchester, since express skips intermediate stations. A to Far Rock or Lefferts, or even Rock Park. N via bridge or via tunnel. 5 to 238th or Dyre. 5 to Utica, New Lots or Flatbush. Utica is slightly different from New Lots since the Utica train skips a few stations the New Lots train doesn't. E to Archer or Hillside. Also, of course, rush hour crowds are more knowledgeable as a rule than off-peak crowds, so probably by now not too many people end up on the wrong E. Also, if a route is different weekdays vs weekends, most people learn. So I would say the real issue is not the 5 but the A. Non-regular travelers have to figure this one out. What I don't understand is why NYCT would remove the < 5 > designation, except possibly for the poor excuse that they don't know which 5s will go to 238th until it's too late to change the signs. |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 15:10:45 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 13:06:07 2005. "Why don't you let Charles express for himself what he agrees with?"Charles abstains. Courteously. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:13:38 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by AlM on Mon May 30 15:05:05 2005. NYCT removed all the diamonds except on the 6 and 7 from the map a while back (last year?). That's because the diamonds on the map had essentially no connection to the diamonds on the trains. (A B inside a diamond, for instance, simply meant that B trains ran there during rush hours, not that there were special B trains signed with diamonds. That was especially confusing when it came to the 5, where there are trains signed with diamonds, but even the circle-signed 5 trains have special rush hour service.)Since the 6 and 7 have critical distinctions, the diamonds were kept. All the rest were scrapped. Even though the distinction on the 5, while less critical than on the 6 or 7, was still an appropriate distinction to make. Archer E trains are usually signed for Jamaica Center. Nobody knows the train is going to 179th until the C/R makes an announcement somewhere in Queens. As for weekends vs. weekdays, not many people seem to have figured out what the N does. If they need the local, they listen to the announcements or ask random passengers (I was asked twice yesterday). If they don't need the local, it doesn't matter. A group of passengers on the N yesterday couldn't remember if the N ran express and the W local or the W express and the N local. When the southbound train stopped at 49th Street, they "figured out" it was the latter. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:14:10 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Charles G on Mon May 30 15:10:45 2005. Thank you. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:16:33 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:02:33 2005. I mentioned the Flushing Line's color to line it up with your logic."The 2 and 3 branch in Manhattan; " The A train's branching is much more significant than the 2 and 3's branching. In fact, the A branches not once but twice. We know what NYCT decided (that's been status quo for quite some time). The A, the rush hour 5 service and the rush hour E service point to the possibility of improvements to NYCT's line designation scheme. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:20:39 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:13:38 2005. "Archer E trains are usually signed for Jamaica Center. Nobody knows the train is going to 179th until the C/R makes an announcement somewhere in Queens."That's not good, but easy to remedy. If the TA assigns rolling stock with reprogrammable signs (R46s, R143s) to those runs, they can reprogram the LED signs to indicate that the train will run to 179 Street and then change them back after those special runs are done. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:23:48 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:16:33 2005. The A train branches affect a small fraction of the ridership of either the 2/3 or the 4/5 branches. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:26:55 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:20:39 2005. But the TA assigns R-32's to those runs, for good reason. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:27:53 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:23:48 2005. First, it's the A branches (plural) and second, it affects enough people so that a simple improvement would be well worth it. You are obviously unaware that the A train is a lidfeline to people in Ozone Park, Broad Channel, Howard Beach and the Rockaways, so Iam happy to educate you on that. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:29:13 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:26:55 2005. Not always. R46s do run on the E a minority of the time. Why not assign those trainsets to the 179 St express runs? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:34:50 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 15:14:10 2005. I told you the first time not to speak for him. Why didn't you listen? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 15:50:46 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:27:53 2005. If it is a lifeline then they should be able to read the destination signs to see where their particular A train is going. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 30 15:51:49 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 15:50:46 2005. They have been, for almost 50 years. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 15:57:18 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 30 15:51:49 2005. Good for them. Do they want a cookie? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 16:03:48 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 15:50:46 2005. Maybe. Sometimes there are still problems.And what of people using the train to get to the airport or the beach? One thing that visitors to New York consistently say is that the subway can be confusing. That deserves consideratio too. Improving route designations serves the customer - and there's no higher goal than that. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon May 30 16:06:19 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:27:53 2005. You are obviously unaware that the A train is a lidfeline to people in Ozone Park, Broad Channel, Howard Beach and the Rockaways, so Iam happy to educate you on that.Why on earth would you say something as patronizing and clearly untrue as that? It certainly wasn't implied by his original statement. You also know that David has an excellent idea of how many people use each line. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon May 30 16:22:04 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:29:13 2005. Because, the 179 express runs arent always constant.Often a scheduled 179 run will end up at jamaica center, or a scheduled jamaica center run will end up at 179. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon May 30 16:22:47 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 14:44:19 2005. but using separate numbers for minor service variants at the line's extremities is unnecessary and confusing. The (2) is a 7th Ave Exp to the White Plains Road lines. The (3) is a 7th Ave Exp to Lennox Avenue. The (4) is a Lex Ave Exp to the Woodlawn line. The (5) is a Lex Ave Exp to the White Plains Road lines. Most of the (5) trains go to Dyre Avenue Some of the (5) trains go to 238th Street (or whatever) Some of the (5) trains run express to East 180 Street (or Whatever) If you are on Lexington Avenue and want to go to a station on the White Plains Road lines, you take the (5) train and make such transfers as seems good to you once you get to the Bronx. ROAR says the LION |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:39:40 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 16:03:48 2005. And now think of the tourist who is traveling along 8th Avenue and is instructed to take the A/C/E/H/K, or the tourist who is traveling along Lexington Avenue and is instructed to take the 4/5/6/8/9/12. If he forgets a few of those designations he's in for an unnecessarily long wait.It is certainly not obvious to me that reducing a slight ambiguity relevant to passengers bound for the extreme end of the line is worth sensory overload to passengers in the middle. Maybe it's obvious to you, but you haven't even attempted to justify your position. To me, NYCT's distinctions make sense, except that in the case of the 5, I think the diamond should remain. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:40:11 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon May 30 15:57:18 2005. Probably not if they have to share it. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:41:19 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:29:13 2005. There are no R-46's assigned to the E. R-46's show up on the E on occasion when an R-32 set is unavailable for whatever reason. A train of R-46's is better than no train at all, so it runs. |
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Posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:42:58 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 15:34:50 2005. I didn't speak for him. I expressed my agreement with the position that he stated. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:13:52 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by AlM on Mon May 30 16:06:19 2005. You haven't been following ourmany thread interactions, have you? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:15:44 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by R30A on Mon May 30 16:22:04 2005. So the morning E runs from 179 St are not constant from the point of view of departure times? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:21:15 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:41:19 2005. So the TA can assign them to those few morning runs, then release them for other uses.If impractical, then an altenative is to make the crew of an R32 consist work the rollsigns, or assign a given trainset placards to put up indicating a 179 st train. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon May 30 18:23:35 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:15:44 2005. i have been on Es that were supposed to go to jamaica center, but went to 179, and the reverse. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:26:47 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:39:40 2005. "And now think of the tourist who is traveling along 8th Avenue and is instructed to take the A/C/E/H/K, "The tourist is instructed to take the 8th Av line. A diagram can represent its destinations. "It is certainly not obvious to me that reducing a slight ambiguity" Nothing is obvious to you, including the blue sky and the sun and the moon. So what else is new? "Maybe it's obvious to you, but you haven't even attempted to justify your position. " I've presented a logical argument, whereas you have engaged in your usual nonsensical obfuscation. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:27:25 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:40:11 2005. You can give them another one of yours. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:27:49 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by David of Broadway on Mon May 30 16:42:58 2005. False statement, since you didn't even know what it was. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:40:42 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by R30A on Mon May 30 18:23:35 2005. OK, acknowledged.A 179 E train is a good thing, but you have to be able to count on it. If I arrive at 179 St during the hour the E is supposed to be running I want to count on getting on one within a reasonable time. And if I wait for one to go home to 179 St, I shouldn't have to transfer when I find out I'm on the wrong train. You would be justified in complaining to the TA and asking for consistency of service. |
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Posted by vengence on Mon May 30 19:16:22 2005, in response to Re: Kiss the ''diamond'' on the 5 train goodbye also, posted by RonInBayside on Mon May 30 18:40:42 2005. Good luck to ya..Those 179 E trains are just "extra"..because they can't go into Archer Ave...[12 tph Archer plus 3 per hour 179th].. Believe me....it's better the way it is. Now If the V was extended to 179[with the F as the express]..at 10 per hour..it would be pretty much suit the purpose... |
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