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Posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 7 03:02:18 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. There's also two 77th street stations. One on the (6) in Manhattan and one on the (R) in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 03:17:14 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. There's a similar problem with 86th St. in Brooklyn. There's one on the N and one on the R and they are far, far apart. You have to inquire if a lost passanger wants the 86th St. by the Verazanno (R) or the one underneath the projects (N). |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Sun Mar 7 03:17:43 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 7 03:02:18 2010. There's also 4 stations at 110, 116 and 125 each. |
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Posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 09:03:30 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 03:17:14 2010. There are many additional examples of this in New York because of the size of the city, the subways, and the fact that Brooklyn and Queens have street numbering schemes that have no relation to Manhattan or The Bronx.Some more examples: 103rd Street is on the #1 and #7 lines but many miles distant from each other. 111th Street is on the J and the #7 line. 86th Street is on the #1, B/C, #4/5/6 as well as the two Brooklyn stations you noted. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 7 09:08:35 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. She probably was confused at "59th St" because someone must have told her to take the S train at 42nd St, and somehow she wound up all the way over there....looking for "42nd St"... |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Mar 7 09:09:50 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Mar 7 03:17:43 2010. True, but at least those are even the same street! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 7 10:06:07 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 7 03:02:18 2010. And I'll meet you at 36th Street on the R. |
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Posted by New Flyer #857 on Sun Mar 7 10:10:24 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. Sure she didn't mean BEACH 116 St (where there is also an "S")? |
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Posted by B1bus on Sun Mar 7 10:28:29 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 7 10:06:07 2010. How about 7th ave on the B? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 7 10:36:08 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 03:17:14 2010. To me, that should be done by adding the cross-street, neighborhood, or route. example, Kings Highway stations could be marked: Kings Highway/Culver, Kings Highway/Brighton, or Kings Highway/Sea Beach.86 Street stations could be named: 86 Street/Bay Ridge, 86 Street/Sea Beach, 86 Street/East Side, 86 Street/Central Park West, and 86 Street/Broadway. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 10:50:27 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. Technically, the N does not stop at 59th Street in Manhattan. The N/R platform is called "Lexington Avenue". |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 10:54:04 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 7 10:36:08 2010. The cross street idea sounds good, but most people born after 1965 have no idea what "Culver", "Sea Beach", or "Brighton" mean. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 11:45:04 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 09:03:30 2010. Yeah, but none with the potential of mass confusion as 86th St. The R has two 36th Sts, but each is in a different boro at opposite ends of the line. Same thing with 7th Ave on the B. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 11:46:37 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 7 10:36:08 2010. The Sea Beach station was labeled "Gravesend" during the time it was the terminal for the N line. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 7 11:46:54 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 10:50:27 2010. OK so they call it 57th Street. But if you get off at the north end of the station, guess where you are.ROAR |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 13:52:16 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 7 11:46:54 2010. Yup, but most subway amateurs go by the station names, not the secondary exits/entrances. So if a tourist asks me on an uptown N train in Manhattan about "59th Street", I automatically think 59th-Lex, even though the N platform is called "Lexington Ave" |
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Posted by David on Sun Mar 7 14:09:46 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 13:52:16 2010. Really? I'd tell him or her that he or she was going the wrong way, and send the person to 59th Street-4th Avenue in Brooklyn :-)David |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 14:17:03 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 09:03:30 2010. There's a third 111th Street station on the A line.77th Street on the R and 6. Prospect Avenue on the R and 2/5. 46th Street on the R/V and 7. Park Place on the 2/3 and S. Fulton Street on the G and 2/3/4/5/J/M/Z. Broadway on the N/W and G. 50th Street and 79th Street on the D and 1. 7th Avenue on the B/Q, F/G, and B/D/E. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 14:23:30 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 11:46:37 2010. Yes.Kings Highway stations could be marked: Kings Highway/McDonald, Kings Highway/East 16th, or Kings Highway/West 7th. 86 Street stations could be named: Bay Ridge-86 Street, Gravesend-86 Street, 86 Street/Lexington Avenue, 86 Street/Central Park West, and 86 Street/Broadway. |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Mar 7 14:38:40 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 7 11:46:54 2010. 57th street! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Mar 7 14:47:49 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Mar 7 11:46:54 2010. Yup, but most subway amateurs go by the station names, not the secondary exits/entrances. So if a tourist asks me on an uptown N train in Manhattan about "59th Street", I automatically think 59th-Lex, even though the N platform is called "Lexington Ave" |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 7 15:16:23 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. Thanks for agreeing with me about the "S" train. There should only be one of them, in my opinion. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 7 15:18:38 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Mar 7 10:36:08 2010. That makes semse to me. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 7 17:11:53 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 14:17:03 2010. Broadway on the N/W and G.That one actually produced a hilarious error on some subway directions website a few years ago. To get from Nassau Avenue to Queensboro Plaza (or something like that), one transferred at Broadway. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 17:25:54 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 7 15:16:23 2010. It's not really a problem, a person needs to be specific about:Franklin S, Rock Park S, and GC-TS S. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 17:26:26 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 7 15:16:23 2010. Though technically they could just use the letter H rather than the S for Rock Park. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 7 17:38:45 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 17:26:26 2010. That's what I think. |
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Posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 18:40:39 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 14:17:03 2010. Correct - thanks for adding those to the list.And to make it even more confusing: Rockaway Ave. - on A and 3/4 trains Rockaway Parkway - on the L Rockaway Park - on the A/S Far Rockaway - on the A Rockaway Blvd. - on the A along with Far Rockaway and East Rockaway on the LIRR. and then the all-time station mis-identification that was literally miles apart: I live on the LIRR Long Beach Branch. Some years ago someone boarded my train at Penn Sta with an NJ Transit ticket to Long Branch. Apparently the person saw the destination sign posted at Penn and didn't read it correctly and got on the LIRR. I explained to the person how to reverse direction at Jamaica, and go back to Penn Station, and start over again. |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sun Mar 7 19:04:00 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 17:26:26 2010. (H) could also be used for the Rockaway Park (A) as well |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Mar 7 19:12:27 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 18:40:39 2010. If she wouldn't have hit Penn Station New York first, she'd probably have gone to Penn Station Newark. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Mar 7 19:16:03 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Mar 7 11:46:37 2010. It still is announced (and signed in some places) as Gravesend-86th Street. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Mar 7 19:58:39 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 17:26:26 2010. I can say YES to that!!!Jimmymc25 |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Mar 7 20:36:23 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 14:23:30 2010. I don't particularly like the sound of this, but 86 St/4 Av could be labeled as "86 Street - Staten Island Bus(es)" since it's a big transfer point for Staten Island. The problem with "Bay Ridge" is that you have on the maps "Bay Ridge Av" and "Bay Ridge-95 St" already. So after adding another Bay Ridge, someone could ask how to get to Bay Ridge from 59 St ... there would be 3 possibilities. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 21:28:44 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by TheGreatOne2k9 on Sun Mar 7 19:04:00 2010. Maybe, but then it'll need to be either/or. Either those 5 rush hour As are the H or the shuttle is the H. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 7 21:46:11 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Mr. MTA on Sun Mar 7 03:02:18 2010. There are three 7th Avenues and the B Train stops at two of them. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 22:22:50 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 7 17:11:53 2010. I remember someone posting some kind of R160 FIND photo of some line, where the Woodhaven Boulevard station between 63rd Drive and Grand Avenue showed a transfer to the J and Z. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 22:25:14 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 18:40:39 2010. Long beach vs. Long Branch. That's a bit different.Then there's Harrison, NY vs. Harrison, NJ. I was looking for directions to Harrison, NJ by simply supplying, "Harrison," and got directions to take a Metro-North train. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Mar 7 22:37:28 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 7 21:28:44 2010. The 5 Rockaway Park As are essentially rush hour extension of the H. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 7 22:44:06 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 09:03:30 2010. There is also a 111th St. on the A Train. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Mar 8 04:27:05 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Mar 7 20:36:23 2010. I'd rather rename 86th Street to something like Frederick W. Wurster Boulevard. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 08:17:39 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Mar 7 22:44:06 2010. Yes, but one route doesn't stop at both of them. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Mar 8 08:22:56 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Andy on Sun Mar 7 09:03:30 2010. And then the R train stops at two stations called 36 Street. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Mar 8 09:55:09 2010, in response to Tourist confusion over "S" train and 59 Street, posted by gbs on Sun Mar 7 02:57:49 2010. (I didn't want to confuse her and have her change for the 6 at Canal Street.)Because TWO transfers are ALWAYS less confusing than ONE transfer. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 10:25:23 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Mar 8 09:55:09 2010. The woman was alreadt told where to transfer, and was already confused. You want to make her totallyy confused by totally changing where she what she was already confused about? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Mar 8 10:51:28 2010, in response to Re: Tourist confusion over ''S'' train and 59 Street, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Mar 8 10:25:23 2010. No, you tell her to disregard any other directions she has to get to her destination station, and make ONE transfer; rather than have someone who is already confused have to navigate the Times Square complex (easy as it is to go from the N to the shuttle) and then wend their way through the crowds at GCT. KISS. |
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