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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 12 08:39:32 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. They're already there. A couple of rush hour runs and the heavier weekend trains are already using them.My Site & Forum. Please use your SubChat or NYCTF handle when signing up for the forum to avoid being denied registration. |
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Posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Jun 12 09:01:51 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. Stop asking questions |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Jun 12 09:01:55 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. R32s rule!! R-32S RULE!! Screw the R-46s!! :-D (Hey I like my ol' schoolers!!And the ones still sporting the original "M" logo.....  Long live the R-32!!!! |
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Posted by q11-Woodhaven on Fri Jun 12 10:22:14 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Jun 12 09:01:55 2009. Not that much longer |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 10:26:26 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Jun 12 09:01:51 2009. IAWTP |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 12 11:17:11 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Jun 12 09:01:55 2009. Original "M" Logo.LION remembers the ta logo, and thought that it was the cat's meow. AND *that* was the original logo on the R-32s ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 12 11:19:09 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Fri Jun 12 09:01:51 2009. oh, go ahead and ask questions, the LION does not mind.What the LION does mind is people correcting other people for whatever cause. EWE may answer nicely, or EWE may be EATEN. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 11:32:57 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. Debut? You mean triumphant return: 
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 12:09:58 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 11:32:57 2009. Love it. Called crew office for PM O/T one day (double). They had a job on the CC. I balked. Crew Dispatcher said I would probably have to pick something like it next time around (was then XXL Queens on the AM's and uptown was anathema). I consented.Sweetheart of a job (way less than 8-hours work). Put in 6-R46 cars laid up south of East New York Station and went n/b from there to Bedford Park. Return trip to Rock Park and take a lay-up to Pitkin. Probably done by 8 pm: let's see, double, deadhead time, night diff, continous time. Not bad in one day for someone who didn't want an "uptown" job. |
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Posted by mshull on Fri Jun 12 16:36:41 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 12:09:58 2009. Do you remember how the cabs were arranged in that consist? ABAABA or something completely different?All still singles at the time? |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 16:47:27 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by mshull on Fri Jun 12 16:36:41 2009. If we had six, it was usuually ABBAAB. That way there were two Conductors operation positions near the center of the train. I preferred the 4-car jobs on the F late at night. One could make time with those babies. Once I passed/saw the Conductor's Board, I knew the 4-cars were in the station. Stop train, Conductor popped doors, and we got in the wind. Of course, STL held us at W8 either because we were to the good, or they had two full pockets at 1:00 AM, or both. |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 16:51:08 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 16:47:27 2009. Bah. A cars lead. That should have been ABBABA. Forget everything else I wrote (except the personal history--that did happen). |
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Posted by mshull on Fri Jun 12 17:10:30 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 16:51:08 2009. Cool!!!! Thanks for the recollection! |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 12 18:02:43 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by f179dj on Fri Jun 12 16:47:27 2009. There should be enough of the R46 AA units to allow for 6 car C trains in a ABBAAA configuration. The only problem is that if they do that, then the TA will need to install C/R boards for that configuration and decide which end of the train will have the AA unit. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jun 12 18:35:50 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 12 18:02:43 2009. There are NOT enough R46 2 car pieces for 6 car C line configuration.Full service is 18 trains, there are only 14 2 car pieces. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jun 12 18:40:17 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. R32's will run on the C line UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.Before Pitkin's R32's are retired en-masse, the R32/40M/R42 fleet has to be retired at Jamaica. Please don't be that dense to expect an exact date for this fleet of over 300 cars to be replaced because there are lots of variables involved. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 18:47:12 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jun 12 18:40:17 2009. Please don't be that dense to expect an exact date for this fleet of over 300 cars to be replaced because there are lots of variables involved.That's exactly what he expects. |
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Posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 19:30:12 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri Jun 12 18:35:50 2009. Since the C train runs eight car trains, why can't the C train run 8 car train as well with the R46. There's no reason on why this can't be done. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 12 19:32:00 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 19:30:12 2009. 8x60 does not equal 8x75. Using 8 R44/46 on the C would give the line full-length trains. Much like the other C in NJ doesn't run 10-car Comets, 9-car MLVs, and 12-car Arrow IVs.My Site & Forum. Please use your SubChat or NYCTF handle when signing up for the forum to avoid being denied registration. |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Fri Jun 12 19:42:32 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 12 19:32:00 2009. More than likely, it may happen based on the fact that by the time the R-32's retire, the only cars left on the A and C line are 75 ft. car trains.More than likely it may end up being an 8 car 75 ft train :P Correct me if I'm wrong about this... |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 12 22:08:41 2009, in response to R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Chipper10 on Fri Jun 12 08:11:28 2009. Patience, patience patience, without asking all of these questions that are a nuisance! When it comes, it comes. We all want it to occur, but things all depend on when the newest of R160 cars come in! Just please calm down without asking these same questions all over, and over! |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Fri Jun 12 22:22:12 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Neil Feldman on Fri Jun 12 22:08:41 2009. As Funaki from the WWE use to say"Indeed" lol. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:38:36 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jun 12 11:17:11 2009. World's BEST logo :)
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Fri Jun 12 23:48:46 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:38:36 2009. Got a badge like that today from the museum store. One of my friends lost his collectible. The best part was this one looked like it was never used. It was a conductor badge with the old TA logo on it. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jun 13 15:08:42 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 10:26:26 2009. Ditto! |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jun 13 15:10:23 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Fri Jun 12 09:01:55 2009. Nice, an R32 with the old M logo. I think I saw an R32 with that as well, not sure if it was the same one. |
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Posted by The I Man on Sat Jun 13 20:11:09 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 12 08:39:32 2009. They were used on the Then Rush Hour Only CC line in 1981 or 82 when the Rockwell Trucks began to fail. It was a good way of keeping them in service, saving a lot of wear and tear on them. A side benefit was having the R-10's on the E and F lines in their place. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jun 13 20:33:12 2009, in response to Re: R46 making it's debut on the C line?, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:38:36 2009. I wonder if they will be put back on the R32's that are saved at the musuem? And also painting the doors blue. Those would be nice. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jun 14 10:22:59 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by The I Man on Sat Jun 13 20:11:09 2009. "............A side benefit was having the R10-s on the E and F in their place."Maybe to a railfan, but not for us who had to operate them. They could not handle the tough operating enviornment of the E/F. They could hardly handle the GG. They could hardly handle making a trip on the AM and a trip on the PM on the CC. I don't know how they survived the winters on the Rock Pk. shuttle. One harsh winter they couldn't and we had a dedicated fleet of slants to handle it from Euclid to the Rock. They were victims of poor maintance. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sun Jun 14 10:30:23 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by The I Man on Sat Jun 13 20:11:09 2009. The R-46s started running on the CC in the Summer of 1980. Geez, I'm gettin' old. I rode the R-10s on the E/F then, too...Dayum, 1980...doesn't seem like 29 years have gone by... |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 14 11:13:28 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by The I Man on Sat Jun 13 20:11:09 2009. A side benefit was having the R-10's on the E and F lines in their place.Not to the geese on the Queens Blvd line who reportedly were bitching to the high heavens when their new air conditioned R-46's were replaced with noisy, hot, graffittied artens. I was rather delighted witnessing a train of R-10s on the (E) signed up for Hudson Terminal ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun Jun 14 11:22:06 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 14 11:13:28 2009. I'd forgo air conditioning to ride an arten (especially on the A). My dad says I rode an R10, but I don't remember it; I was two years old when they were retired. And in any case, they weren't the same in their last days on the C. :( |
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Posted by f179dj on Sun Jun 14 12:13:09 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Jun 14 10:22:59 2009. '............A side benefit was having the R10-s on the E and F in their place.'"Maybe to a railfan, but not for us who had to operate them." I liked that but that control stand could be a problem for the family jewels. Your mileage may vary. However us Queens prima-donnas were largely spoiled by the 46. Carry a couple of keys. Oh, now I need a brake handle and reverser? "They could not handle the tough operating enviornment of the E/F." Sure they could. Made many a trip to STL or WTC (and back, lol) with them. Some were fast, and some were slow; but that was true of all equipment. "They could hardly handle the GG." The Galloping Gangster was a breeze. Esp south of the Plaza where the temperature dropped; made a difference in cars w/o AC. "They could hardly handle making a trip on the AM and a trip on the PM on the CC. I don't know how they survived the winters on the Rock Pk. shuttle. One harsh winter they couldn't and we had a dedicated fleet of slants to handle it from Euclid to the Rock. They were victims of poor maintance." No comments on most of that. Only operated them on the A/CC when i broke in there (after that, on those lines, I had the accursed 40's and 42's; hate them with a passion as well as the 38's on the "B", oh sorry the West End.) "victims of poor maintenance" Thems fighting words. I came from RTO, but C&S/CMD/CED and whatever they are called today (while still doing the same quality work) could probably disagree. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Sun Jun 14 12:51:35 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by Ken S. on Fri Jun 12 08:39:32 2009. Pictures? Artist's conceptions? :-) |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jun 16 11:19:09 2009, in response to Re: MLV making its debut on the C line?, posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Jun 14 11:13:28 2009. >>>Not to the geese on the Queens Blvd line who reportedly were bitching to the high heavens when their new air conditioned R-46's were replaced with noisy, hot, graffittied artens.<<<Precisely the same complaint I once heard from an "F" train rider while he boarded a Queens-bound R-10 that I was riding in [#3155] at 47th-50th Streets. He wanted to know, probably not totally familiar to the fact the cars ran on other lines including the "GG", if they were put into service after being taken "out of mothballs". By the way, I rode the R-10's on the "E" line 20 times, and on the "F" just only on six occasions. One of the cars that I rode on the "E" was on a Manhattan-bound run was with its lead motor #3189, which still survives today. -William A. Padron ["Queens-8th Av.Exp."] |
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