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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 25 16:38:13 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by AlM on Mon May 25 14:15:17 2009. True, but my ignorance was so vast that I got more information than I could have ever hoped for. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:19:20 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon May 25 12:17:01 2009. This is off the top of my head so I may be wrong but that's how I remember the service to 57th/6th (1987 to 1990):Evenings: Grand St. shuttle - JFK Express - 63rd St. opens - F/Q(weekends B) - Evening B Late nights: Grand St. shuttle - F/Q The Q shuttle shown on the map from those days was the F/Q. I don't recall Q trains terminating at Broad-Laf or Second Ave. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:34:10 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Michael549 on Sun May 24 20:08:58 2009. Atlantic Ave. and beyond. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:43:50 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by bigrene22 on Sun May 24 12:54:22 2009. Most IRT trains didn't get them until they were turned into Redbirds and artens didn't get them. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Mon May 25 20:07:37 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:43:50 2009. Oh, ok. Thanks. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue May 26 00:30:37 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 23 19:33:04 2009. hmmmm....so you're saying you've dream about naked guys?I mean its okay if your into that...just so you know. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Tue May 26 02:57:14 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by R42 4787 on Mon May 25 16:30:19 2009. Not my photo.
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 06:26:15 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:19:20 2009. The Q shuttle I referenced ran alongside the F, not combined with it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 06:29:57 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Wado MP73 on Mon May 25 18:34:10 2009. If a train was terminating at Atlantic Ave, a conductor would have let you know. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 26 09:43:30 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat May 23 19:33:04 2009. Hey, I understand what you're saying. That's OK by me, as long as you recognize your drift ain't MY drift, LOL. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 26 09:47:07 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 23 19:39:49 2009. Bill, where where you when I tried to start threads (about a year ago) about crazy stuff going on during midnight runs? You could have contributed this...I'd imagine that midnight runs, especially back "in the day" would be a madhouse of pulled cords, fights, and copulation of all varieties. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue May 26 10:00:14 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 06:26:15 2009. So this part "F/Q(weekends B)" should be "Q shuttle" instead. But where did they really turn it at? It couldn't have been Broadway-Lafayette with the D running, so Second Ave? |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue May 26 10:02:50 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 06:29:57 2009. I meant the other direction. Whether Canarsie trains went to Brooklyn Broadway or the 14th St. line. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 26 10:10:51 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Wado MP73 on Sun May 24 14:20:58 2009. He has posted in earlier threads that he works for the TA and has seen extant parts of the IND Second System.But I consider anyone born in the 1980s to be "very young". |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 12:57:22 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue May 26 10:00:14 2009. I believe 2nd Ave was the turning point. I never rode it, but I saw them from other trains, using Q train sets. My 1990 map has it listed as terminating at B-L. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue May 26 13:34:38 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat May 23 19:39:49 2009. Also, the baby possibly conceived that night could be a C/R on YOUR train! |
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Posted by randyo on Tue May 26 15:58:26 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 12:57:22 2009. In those days, there was a period in the early evenings after the Brighton Q stopped running and the F started going to 21 St. To fill the gap in service, a Q shuttle operated between 2 Av and 21 St as a 6 Av local. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue May 26 16:54:19 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by randyo on Tue May 26 15:58:26 2009. What a mess... |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue May 26 17:24:05 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 26 12:57:22 2009. I checked some maps.April 1990 has that evening Q shuttle that replaced the evening JFK Express, the F becomes the F/Q at nights (on the map it says ends at 47/50). September 1990, the evening B replaces the Q shuttle, night F/Q service unchanged. So the Q shuttle only existed for five months and I was working at a bar and rarely had the chance to ride the subway at the hours it ran. No wonder I don't remember it! (This map also has both sides of the Manny B open, which only lasted weeks.) May 1992, unchanged. April 1993, the F/Q is officially renamed the F. Thus begins the time when the 63rd St. line had three different routes depending of the time of the day. And later on, there were the yellow S (to 57th or 34th), orange B shuttle (21st St. to Second Ave.), orange S shuttle (21st St. to Broad-Laf) and so on until the connector opened and the F became the normal service at all times. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed May 27 16:11:57 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Dan on Sat May 23 16:11:00 2009. It was never actually the letters FQ as such. The large window rollers on the sides said something like "(F) 21 ST-QUEENSBRIDGE to CONEY ISLAND (Q)". Something roughly like that.Bob |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 28 01:11:19 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by GIS Man on Wed May 27 16:11:57 2009. Reminds me somewhat of a designation on some of the Redbirds "(2) to the Bronx | (5) to Brooklyn" which I believe was used on some G.O.s during the 90s, but I never saw one in service. On the IRT 100th Anniversary run, I turned the rollsigns in one car to that reading at Atlantic Av before a foamer came by and promptly corrected them to "(2) 7 Avenue Exp". This was despite the fact that the (2)/(5) was more accurate to the actual route the train ran which was South on Lex and North on 7 Av. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Thu May 28 10:57:19 2009, in response to Re: Double Letters, posted by Broadway Buffer on Thu May 28 01:11:19 2009. I actually did see those combined 2/5 trains during that GO, which was in 1998. The Lenox Avenue tunnel was undergong serious structural repair. |
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