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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 19:35:06 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 1 19:28:45 2009. I yard a deadhead on track 200 about every two weeks for last 6 years and track 200 is furtest east as one can go.The entire outer wall is solid concrete, with no sign of knockout wall or change in profile in that tunnel. Like I said no proof no story. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Feb 1 19:38:39 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 31 20:56:15 2009. And a connection from LIRR Atlantic branch to 5th Ave. El and also to the Brighton line. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Feb 1 19:47:58 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 19:22:28 2009. Try looking at:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F00E6DB1130F935A15755C0A9679C8B63 And I point out: "He would not even have to change trains to get to his beloved racetrack on Long Island because he arranged for a connection from the subway tracks to the Long Island Rail Road tracks at the Atlantic Avenue station in Brooklyn. This way, he and his guests could board the car from a door in the basement bar of the Belmont Hotel, which stood near Grand Central Terminal, and ride express to Belmont Park." The article also says Belmont didn't use his train after 1919. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Feb 1 19:50:32 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by R42 4787 on Sun Feb 1 01:25:01 2009. There are photos of R46s being delivered via Parkville, circa 1976.Location: LIRR Parkville Jct Car: R46 #508 Photo by: Steve Zabel Collection of: David Pirmann Date: 4/23/1975  Location: LIRR Parkville Jct Car: R46 #508 Photo by: Steve Zabel Collection of: Joe Testagroce Date: 4/23/1975  Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 19:52:55 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Feb 1 19:47:58 2009. could the Belmont Hotel have been near IRT. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Feb 1 19:56:01 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 19:52:55 2009. Next to Grand Central Terminal. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 20:00:43 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Feb 1 19:56:01 2009. The Belmont hotel stood east of Park avenue at block between 42th and 41st so it was outside the loop and outside the terminal track area, I suspect the Mineola was dispatched from old connecting track between the shuttle and IRT.The Belmont Hotel |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 1 20:55:42 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 19:35:06 2009. I yard a deadhead on track 200 about every two weeks for last 6 years and track 200 is furtest east as one can go.The entire outer wall is solid concrete, with no sign of knockout wall or change in profile in that tunnel. 200 is the lower level loop track, right? Like I said no proof no story. Indeed. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Feb 1 22:44:20 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 20:00:43 2009. You are correct. The tie in was track one where the shuttle swaps are made in the vicinity of the refuse train cargo door east end of platform. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Mon Feb 2 00:26:53 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Feb 1 09:52:43 2009. Saw it many times at the NB end of the NB 2,3 track in the mid to late 60s. They removed the tracks since then. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 2 07:00:04 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Bob Andersen on Sun Feb 1 19:38:39 2009. It would be an interesting alternate reality if the BRT had managed to grab the Atlantic Avenue, Bay Ridge, and Manhattan Beach lines... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 2 07:04:54 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 31 19:01:11 2009. 1st Connection--- the Bay Ridge Line connects to NYCT from within Linden Yard. R142 Deliveries from Plattsburgh came down through Hell Gate/Fresh Pond on flat cars, and were delivered to Linden Yard on their own wheels with a NY and A Locomotive. Over the last few months, IRT access to Linden Yard was servered due to track maintenance on that lead. Only access to Linden Yard is from the Canarsie Line at Livonia Avenue. The old turnout from the Canarsie Line to the Bay Ridge Line near New Lots Avenue has been gone for years.If only those had coincided... an R142 delivery fantrip via the Bay Ridge Line, Linden Yard, the Canarsie Line, the Broadway El, the Chrystie Street Connector, the IND, Concourse Yard, and finally the Jerome Avenue El... |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 2 07:06:15 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Stef on Sat Jan 31 19:01:11 2009. Past connections ---- south of East 180th St to the old New Haven, (ex-NYW and B) old IRT Cars were scrapped near the old bus depot in the vicinity of 174th St and the Cross Bronx Expwy, while brand new ACF R26's entered the system for the first time.3rd Av El Willis Avenue Spur ---- with a connection to the old New Haven at 133rd St and the Harlem River. Long after the Willis Avenue Station closed, the track remained active. There's a photo of Steinway World's Fair Cars in the History of the Interborough Fleet by Cunningham, they were being delivered into the system by way of that connection. I think there was a thread about the Harlem River Yard and that connection some time ago. Lots of interesting stuff here..... It's a shame there was never a NYWB-2/3 Av El thru service, or it could have been two in one... |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 2 07:24:45 2009, in response to Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Jan 31 16:55:06 2009. "I know there is one track connection between the LIRR (NY & A) Bay Ridge Branch and the NYCT at Van Sinderen Ave just north of New Lots Ave"The connection between the LIRR/NYAR Bay Ridge Branch that used to exist north of New Lots (southbound track) had been removed quite a few years ago. The connection west (south) of the Linden Shop still exists, and was where subway cars (R-142s) coming down from Bombardier were taken to. D&H 416 brought them in to Fresh Pond, and NYAR offloaded them from the flatcars, and under special train orders for speed, took them down to Linden Yard, where NYCT diesels picked them up at the connection (it was said that the NYAR engine actually entered the Linden Shop property to deliver them, but that was never confirmed or observed). Largely, MOW materials and supplies are delivered here. The connection at 38th Street (former South Brooklyn Railway) has been unused for quite sometime, and I have heard the street trackage linking the SBK to the NYAR down Second Avenue in Brooklyn has either been disconnected or removed). No connection that I ever knew of ever existed at Wilson Avenue. At that location, the LIRR/NYAR Bay Ridge right of way paralleled the L Line there, but no connection ever existed. Metro-North has absolutely no connection directly to NYCT property. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 2 07:30:06 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Dutchrailnut on Sun Feb 1 13:29:13 2009. Just like the urban legend of a track connection between Penn and GCT.....again, legend, never existed!! |
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Posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 09:55:01 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 2 07:30:06 2009. No urban legend. There is a track connection between GCT and NYP.Just go up the west side freight line to the hudson division in the bronx and come back to GCT. Purr no lion me |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Feb 2 10:21:37 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 09:55:01 2009. I thought the line along the west side of Manhattan was now a passenger line. |
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Posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 10:25:11 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Feb 2 10:21:37 2009. Old names die hard |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Feb 2 10:25:35 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Feb 2 10:21:37 2009. I thought the line along the west side of Manhattan was now a passenger line.Yes. Amtrak's Empire Connection. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Mon Feb 2 10:35:59 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Feb 1 19:47:58 2009. Considering that there is an IRT station at Grand Central Terminal, Belmont may not have actually used any tracks of what we now call the Metro North. He simply could have used all IRT trackage until Atlantic Avenue for his journey.Mike |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Feb 2 10:52:24 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 10:25:11 2009. OK I thought you knew smething I didn't! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Feb 2 11:59:40 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Mon Feb 2 07:00:04 2009. The *had* Fifth Avenue and Third Avenue in Brooklyn, but they let them go. Go Figure.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Feb 2 12:06:26 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Michael549 on Mon Feb 2 10:35:59 2009. Someone *finally* gets it.ROAR |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Feb 2 12:22:37 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Michael549 on Mon Feb 2 10:35:59 2009. So where at Grand Central did Belmont keep the Mineola when he wasn't riding it? |
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Posted by metropod on Mon Feb 2 13:15:15 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Feb 1 19:28:45 2009. 1924. |
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Posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 15:36:03 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by metropod on Mon Feb 2 13:15:15 2009. 1928 |
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Posted by jabrams on Mon Feb 2 19:55:36 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Mon Feb 2 07:24:45 2009. With the yard at Fresh Pond Road adjacent to the LIRR yards, I wonder why a connection was never made there. Also, what is the purpose of the extension to NY Harbor (which ends at a building) of the scrap yard near first Ave. at 39th St. Bklyn.? |
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Posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 20:06:15 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by jabrams on Mon Feb 2 19:55:36 2009. Before reefing cars were scraped there |
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Posted by metropod on Mon Feb 2 21:40:38 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by poobaa on Mon Feb 2 15:36:03 2009. Tell that to Time magazine. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Feb 3 11:51:53 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Feb 1 12:12:07 2009. I believe the R44s entered and left the LIRR's Bay Ridge Branch (now the NY&A) via the connection to the SBRR at Avenue I& McDonald Avenue. This connection is also defunct, as the SBRR no longer runs on McDonald Ave. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Feb 3 11:54:04 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Feb 1 11:51:02 2009. To my memory, the SBK tracks lasted on McDonald Avenue till '89ish. I remember drving on McDonald, and the car I owned at the time. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Feb 3 11:54:36 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by shiznit1987 on Sun Feb 1 12:12:07 2009. "There is a picture of the R44s being tested on the LIRR main line by Forest Hills on NYCsubway.org around 72/73'. "That would have been '71-'72, because by 1973 the LIRR's third rail was putting out 750 volts. The R44 made its world-record run in Jan 1972. |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Feb 3 16:17:24 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jan 31 20:50:11 2009. Here's a timetable for the Chestnut St. connection. This is from before trains went over the Williamsburg Bridge
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Feb 3 20:23:35 2009, in response to Re: Track connections between LIRR and NYCT, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Feb 2 11:59:40 2009. Manhattan Beach could have been useful in providing a better terminal than Brighton Beach. |
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