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PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008 This year they had the cabs of the M1 and M7's open to the pubic...      |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:25:15 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Which M7 was the cab open on? |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 17:26:11 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:25:15 2008. The one that was open to the pubic. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:29:03 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 17:26:11 2008. When I went there, the door to the cab was closed.This would have been around 1100 |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 17:34:00 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:29:03 2008. the open cab was at the back of the M7 with the lights off, it had the transverse cab setup. the corner cab was closed at the front. |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:37:29 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 17:34:00 2008. Ah. Well that would explain it.They should have done that with the M1. It was a cluster**** trying to maneuver people around the door. |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Sun Oct 12 17:40:27 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. did you crank that baby up and take it for a spin? |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 17:48:03 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by NJCL2308 on Sun Oct 12 17:37:29 2008. They should have done that with the M1. It was a cluster**** trying to maneuver people around the door.They had both cabs open on the M1!! I sat in both M1 cabs, after i finshed walking from sitting in the front M1 cab, i saw two people in the dark cars so i went inside and sat in that cab for like 5 minutes after they left. I was the only person sitting in the dark cars's M1 cab. |
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Posted by PATHman on Sun Oct 12 19:55:13 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Nice pics. When I was there people were hogging it. I wanted to take a pic but the same guy was there for a half hour. |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by aem7ac on Sun Oct 12 20:09:07 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. r u sure u werent taking pix of these blonde chicks/milfs thru the window glass? |
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Handles Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Oct 12 20:26:51 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Nice shots. So I take it the controller type in the M-1 (Cineston? I always forget what that is) is gradually becoming extinct with these new handles as the M7 has. Does anyone here have an opinion of which of these is preferable to operate? |
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Re: Handles Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Oct 12 20:29:55 2008, in response to Handles Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Oct 12 20:26:51 2008. The direct report that I have is that it's more difficult to make a minimal brake application on the LIRR M7 compared to the M1/3 without passengers feeling it. |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 12 20:35:55 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. The first cab shots are NOT M-1As, they're M-3A "Mets Cars" cab shots, and it looks like a refurbished M-3A at that, noted by the new floor and almost NY Mets-inspired seats.Nice pics nonetheless!! |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 21:34:59 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by PATHman on Sun Oct 12 19:55:13 2008. Thanks! |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Oct 12 21:38:22 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 12 20:35:55 2008. they're M-3A "Mets Cars" cab shots, and it looks like a refurbished M-3A at that, noted by the new floor and almost NY Mets-inspired seats.Ick! LIRR has a few M3s that have received restyling too. Ick there as well! Leave well enough alone! |
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Re: Handles Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 21:41:18 2008, in response to Handles Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Oct 12 20:26:51 2008. Thanks!! I assume that most engineers pefer the M7 because the cab is bigger and has a more comfy seat. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 21:44:10 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Oct 12 20:35:55 2008. Thanks!! But the sign on the front of that train said M1A on it though. |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Mon Oct 13 01:13:27 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Good shots!Almost-stupid Q about the control handle on the earlier M-series - I assume that to power the train, you move the handle in the same way that you would move it on a pre-R142 era car. But to brake the train, how would one move the handle? |
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Deadman device |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Mon Oct 13 02:17:29 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Hmm...interesting...so what is the deadman feature on the M7A controller? |
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Re: Deadman device |
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Posted by rr4567 on Mon Oct 13 02:21:26 2008, in response to Deadman device, posted by straphanger9 on Mon Oct 13 02:17:29 2008. The Alerter, even though it's not technically on the controller. It'd a little button/handle |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Mon Oct 13 02:30:28 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Mon Oct 13 01:13:27 2008. Aren't those P-wire like the original R-44/46? |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Oct 13 07:57:58 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Mon Oct 13 01:13:27 2008. Thanks!!But to brake the train, how would one move the handle? I wondering the same thing, on the M1 or M3 train theres no slot for a brake handle like the R32-R42 cars which has a slimar conroller. I wonder how the engineer stops the train on M1 and M3 cars? |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Oct 13 08:21:18 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Oct 13 07:57:58 2008. Move controller counter clockwise is brake.Move Controller clockwise is power Cost is when controller points forward. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 13 08:53:04 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. Nothing like the NTT Master Controllers we have in NYCT.Their braking mode is on top while ours in on the bottom and thier power mode is on the bottom while ours is on the top interesting.. As well as that small little knob.. |
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Re: Deadman device |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Oct 13 09:09:29 2008, in response to Re: Deadman device, posted by rr4567 on Mon Oct 13 02:21:26 2008. Like on the SD40-2's. |
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Posted by Parkchester (East 177th St) on Mon Oct 13 10:30:24 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Oct 13 08:21:18 2008. Thanks! |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Mon Oct 13 17:59:54 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 13 08:53:04 2008. I find that interesting too. I'd say that the M-7 controller is the dumbest looking controller I have ever seen. I like the M-3 controller though. It actually reminds me of a PATH cab.And I think they should have two handles for those cars anyways. Though it is interesting to see that the M3 has a "subway style" deadman's feature. Sidenote: PATCO has T- type handles, and they have the power-pull back, and brake-push forward design.(like on LIRR) |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Oct 14 18:15:32 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Railman718 on Mon Oct 13 08:53:04 2008. Their braking mode is on top while ours in on the bottom and thier power mode is on the bottom while ours is on the top interesting..The NYCT way is unorthodox to my eye. All one handle MCs in Japan have it the M7 way so they don't risk moving the controller the other way when emergency braking. |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 19:20:38 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Dutchrailnut on Mon Oct 13 08:21:18 2008. and 3 power positions with dentents in the M1/3's right? IIRC there was a fourth that was an ATO position if equiped, Dutch???The brake side has no dentents, correct? |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 19:24:21 2008, in response to PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Sun Oct 12 15:50:15 2008. OK, I give up, what does N L M R stand for in the M7 cab? |
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Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Oct 14 20:17:26 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 19:20:38 2008. There was no ATO position on either the M1 and M3 , yes it was noted on the resopal plate at controller handle but never istalled.Only Item ever installed was the ATO powersupply (it also controlled markerlights), a screwed up ATO supply would make the markerlights fade in and out at rapid pace. The M series cars have 4 power possitions, P1-P2-P3- P4, they control the max steps on the motorized cam controller. the basic steps are: P1 = series only, P2 is series/parralel. P3 is parralel, P4 is parralel with field shunting. The Harlem/hudson equipment have stepless P wire brake, the New Haven equipment has a 7 step Westcode brake, with 7 brake possitions plus emergency. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Oct 14 20:20:07 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 19:24:21 2008. Cab signal aspectsN = Normal Cab (max authorized speed) L = Limited Cab (max 45 mph) M = Medium Cab (max 30 mph) R = Restricted cab ( max restricted speed = 15 mph max) |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 21:22:44 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Oct 14 20:20:07 2008. Of course, the cab signals.... duh... Though there's no Limited sped on LIRR is there. Also, there must be an acknowledge button somewhere... |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Oct 14 21:48:53 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Fulton Frank on Tue Oct 14 21:22:44 2008. fourth picture, little joystick past horn handle, is acknowledge |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Oct 15 00:46:22 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue Oct 14 20:17:26 2008. Do any of the M-series cars have field shunting? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Oct 15 08:34:31 2008, in response to Re: PHOTOS : M1 and M7 cab shots, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Wed Oct 15 00:46:22 2008. they all do (except M-7 cause it has AC traction motors)only cars that had field shunting disabled were the ACMU's |
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