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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 13 20:23:32 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Easy on Thu Dec 13 20:21:07 2007. Not necessarily true. |
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Posted by Clayton on Thu Dec 13 21:08:10 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 13 20:23:32 2007. Well, I can only hope that the CCRB closed the case because they saw this was a fairly petty argument and have other claims to work on finding out if they are substantiated or not, such as allegations of police physical misconduct. |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 13 21:44:13 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Clayton on Thu Dec 13 21:08:10 2007. Unjustified handcuffing, unlawful detention, illegal search and seizure, and destruction of property are "petty?" |
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Posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 13 22:09:03 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Clayton on Thu Dec 13 21:08:10 2007. Well, I can only hope that the CCRB closed the case because they saw this was a fairly petty argumentDeleting photos is not petty. More likely its another typical CCRB cover-up of police misconduct. Nilet should go the the NYCLU instead of wasting his time in Kangaroo Courts like the CCRB! |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Dec 13 22:36:52 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Easy on Thu Dec 13 20:21:07 2007. Not necessarily. He has to wait for the letter. Then he'll know one way or the other. This is probably not going to make the evening news either way. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Dec 14 03:33:03 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BMTLines on Thu Dec 13 22:09:03 2007. IAWTP |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 18 15:37:02 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by RonInBayside on Thu Dec 13 22:36:52 2007. But he can take it to the evening news.I had luck with 7 On Your Side. Sent them an e-mail on their website and they called back two days later. (Pretty good service I would say.) I was on TV in five days. If you write a good e-mail, you can interest them. The key is to make it sound like you are not the only one being affected and how making other people aware of what happened to you will also help them. Since all you have to do is tell the truth, this shouldn't be too difficult. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Dec 19 01:35:23 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Dec 18 15:37:02 2007. got your 15 min of fame? |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Thu Dec 20 16:27:09 2007, in response to Re: Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by monorail on Wed Dec 19 01:35:23 2007. I think it was 2 minutes and 24 seconds. I still have 12 minutes and change left. |
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Sort Of Update (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 21 00:15:57 2007, in response to Case Closed! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Thu Dec 13 19:05:23 2007. I got a letter telling me that I would get a letter detailing the outcome of the investigation.Now that's what I call a worthwhile use of paper! 
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Posted by monorail on Fri Dec 21 00:22:48 2007, in response to Sort Of Update (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Dec 21 00:15:57 2007. let us know what the letter states if and when you get it |
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The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident) |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008, in response to ROBBED BY A COP— PROPERTY DESTROYED!, posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 20:42:32 2007. I just got my final letter from the CCRB. The charges were substantiated and the CCRB will pass on the information to press charges which may result in loss of vacation, days in the street, probation, or termination. The letter specifies that this penalty is more severe than a command discipline.Glad to have that settled. Now I'll be heading off to file a FOIA request to get my photos back. The CCRB undeleted them, but I supposedly need to file a FOIA request to get them. Thanks for the kind words and support, Adam
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Posted by monorail on Fri Jan 11 02:42:04 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. 'which may result in loss of vacation, days in the street, probation, or termination.'most probably lost vacation days.... congrats! good luck with the photos! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jan 11 04:26:54 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. EXCELLENT!! |
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Posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jan 11 04:36:48 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Great news. Congrats |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 11 05:25:35 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Good for you. Let's hope that it gets around that maybe the NYPD should stick to enforcing existing laws and not ones they make up on the fly.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Fri Jan 11 06:18:36 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Good to hear:Maybe this will show some who think photography is illegal because of those being paranoid that they have to be more careful. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 11 06:27:09 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. JUSTICE!! I'm glad you stuck it out. Kudos to you! Hopefully this will get around the NYPD and they will implement some kind of training class on this subject for the benefit of the officers as well as railfans. Post the pictures when you get 'em back. Congratulations! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 11 06:40:08 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Well done! Now sell your story to the press! |
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Posted by Canton Viaduct on Fri Jan 11 06:52:42 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Good work sticking it out and congratulations on the resolution. |
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Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Fri Jan 11 07:40:33 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Congrats on your positive outcome. Glad that you didn't give up throughout it. |
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Posted by HarryP on Fri Jan 11 07:48:17 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Congratulations on a job well done! I am sure the outcome in your favor will get around the Police grapevine.Unfortunately, harassment of legal photography will continue, and each incident must be reported and followed through, as some still may not get the message. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 11 07:50:10 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Yay! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 11 08:02:38 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Nice to see that the CCRB does't cover everything up!!Congratulations and hope the message gets to the other cops... |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Fri Jan 11 08:30:28 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Which incident was this again? You seem to have so many :-\ |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Fri Jan 11 08:39:31 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Congratulations and thanks for following through with this and not giving up! |
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Posted by Easy on Fri Jan 11 09:14:37 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Good news. Glad that I was wrong. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 11 09:42:05 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. The charges were substantiated and the CCRB will pass on the information to press charges which may result in loss of vacation, days in the street, probation, or termination. The letter specifies that this penalty is more severe than a command discipline.Don't expect anything to happen to the cop. They are completely immune to any discipline, in fact they can commit murder (Amadou Diallo, Sean Bell) or savagely beat helpless people (Rodney King) and get off scot-free. My LIRR/NYCT blog |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 09:59:21 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 11 06:40:08 2008. Tonight on Lifetime...a man, a camera, a rouge cop and the women who love them.... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:02:01 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 11 09:42:05 2008. Perhaps you missed the re-trial of the King cops, who were found guilty of a crime and sentenced to prison. The Diallo cops were acquitted by a jury and therefore not subject to punishment for committing something not considered a crime. The jury is still out on the Bell cops, but they also did nothing wrong, IMO. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 11 10:11:00 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 09:59:21 2008. a rouge copAh, he's a Commie! That explains everything! |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 10:11:25 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 09:59:21 2008. Eh, the cop was a woman. Maybe she was a lesbian? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Jan 11 10:15:53 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Yeah...great kudos for your victory in getting this matter finally done! Now go out there and get 'em!!!-William A. Padron [">-Rowan St->"] |
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Posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 10:23:39 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:02:01 2008. Perhaps you missed the re-trial of the King cops, who were found guilty of a crime and sentenced to prison. The Diallo cops were acquitted by a jury and therefore not subject to punishment for committing something not considered a crime. The jury is still out on the Bell cops, but they also did nothing wrong, IMO.On the other hand, if you read some of Jeff Rosen's posts here he occasionally boasts of the violent felonies he and his fellow police officers have committed. I don't know if he is telling the truth, and if he is I suspect the recipients of the violence were not usually nice people either, but his posts do suggest that in his personal experience police officers are above the law. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:51:03 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 10:23:39 2008. I agree some cops think they are above the law. But none in the given examples are, IMHO. Only cop-bashers and racists do. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 10:51:32 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 10:23:39 2008. Officers, like crooks, only pay when caught.And who is going to catch a cop? Another cop? But enough of that! MOST cops are honest, hard working, and full of donuts. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 10:54:58 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 10:11:25 2008. Eh, the cop was a woman. Maybe she was a lesbian? I'll have to consult an expert on that:  |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Jan 11 10:55:09 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Congratulations to you for standing up what is right for all of us. It should have been no more than a question and answer session followed by "have a nice day".I'm hoping for termination for these bastards. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:01:35 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 10:51:32 2008. That being said, most cops are not the polite, by the book nice guys you see on "Disordly Conduct" or "Hot Pursuit". That's the video camera effect. Cops are human beings. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 11:04:59 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Congratulations. Very good work by you.Did you see my post about software that helps you recover photos from "deleted" camera storage? Perhaps that would be of help? |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 11 11:08:42 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by AlM on Fri Jan 11 10:23:39 2008. On the other hand, if you read some of Jeff Rosen's posts here he occasionally boasts of the violent felonies he and his fellow police officers have committed.I met Jeff - I believe he is just pulling our chain 99.99999% of the time with those posts ;-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jan 11 11:12:44 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 11 11:08:42 2008. While he sure seems like a nice guy in person, his posts about accidentally breaking the camera of a person who would take his photo without permission is downright scary, and I don't see why he would make such a post if he wasn't being serious. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:23:45 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:01:35 2008. Gee... All the cops *I* know are polite.ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:33:15 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:23:45 2008. That's because you live in South friggin' Dakota. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:39:34 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:33:15 2008. No! I live in NORTH Dakota!Be that as it may, the State Police do NOT operate 24/7, but are closed down for a few hours every night when NO ONE AT ALL IS ON DUTY, but of course *are* on call. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:41:21 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by RonInBayside on Fri Jan 11 11:04:59 2008. Sure it would. Indeed, it was used.But the CCRB *has* the physical memory card in question. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:53:15 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:39:34 2008. Dakota Shmakota....it's all the same. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:56:15 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 11 11:53:15 2008. Be Nice.We got all of your wheat and corn, and soon we will own all of your ethanol and wind power too. As a matter of fact, I read where ND was the #5 exporter of energy in the US. I do not know what or how they were measuring that. ROAR |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 12:30:39 2008, in response to Re: The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jan 11 11:41:21 2008. No, Terrapin Station has the physical memory card in question. The CCRB gave the card back to me, hopefully non-overwritten, and since the camera and card were on loan from Terrapin Station, I returned the camera to him. The investigator who handled the case said that I should file a FOIA request to get the photos (and videos) back; if that fails, I'd have to borrow the card back again from Terrapin to run an undelete on it— hopefully, he'd be willing to re-loan it. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Fri Jan 11 13:40:12 2008, in response to The End and Resolution! (Re: Cop Incident), posted by Nilet on Fri Jan 11 02:26:07 2008. Great to hear, Glad you stuck with it. Hopefully it gets around, At least a copy of this will be in their jackets for the rest of the time there with the Police Dept. |
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