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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 28 16:58:19 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 27 22:47:07 2007. Damn, the most people I've seen use that station at once was probably around the 4-5 area. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Nov 28 17:31:26 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Nov 27 23:09:43 2007. From a previous message: "I would say only the segments where the shuttle stops at especially for the shelters. And obviously to make sure the platforms are safe enough to walk on, but other than that pretty much not more than that till the other more patronized station stations gets rehabbed 1st.IMo Rockaway Pk Branch would've been the very last segment to be repaired unless there were severe deteriorations. " This kind of sounds like the following situation: "The daily beatings will stop when morale improves - From Sade Your Manager". Followed to a certain degree this kind of statement creates s catch-22 situation - the station will not be improved until the ridership grows but the ridership won't grow because the station is horrible. While no one is going to build the Taj Mahall in a subway station, a certain level of amenties is needed. Mike |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 17:51:19 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 27 21:49:18 2007. Most of the route is on Beach Channel Drive and that is the main road of the Rockaways, next to the Rockaway Freeway. There's no need for a bus route on the other cross penisula roads when people can walk to the nearest bus stop.There was another bus route, the Q21A, that ran east of the Cross Bay Bridge along time ago. I have a Queens Bus map from 1989 that has it. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 17:53:38 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Nov 27 22:26:10 2007. Just because its the least used, it doesn't mean it shouldn't get a full renovation. It wouldn't make sense to leave that station out of the picture when the other stations around it would be improved. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 17:59:43 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Nov 27 23:09:43 2007. They are severely deteriorated. The Far Rock stations are in way better condition. The only improvement the Rock Park side received recently were new station lights.These stations do get good ridership during the summer. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 18:05:22 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Nov 27 23:27:36 2007. There's no reason to shut down any station out here. I utilize the (A) and (S) everyday. I just used Beach 105 Street about an hour ago to head to Far Rock. It's a ghost town most of thw time, but it would still cripple commuters a bit out here if it were to be shut down. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 18:08:11 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Nov 28 00:11:59 2007. Why close it down and let it deteriorate? It would probably cost even more to take it down and if you let rot it's gonna bring down the el too. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Nov 28 18:10:59 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 28 08:02:03 2007. I remember that pic. I got more. |
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Posted by NEPONSIT2006 on Wed Nov 28 18:37:13 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Nov 28 00:05:55 2007. How did they (MTA) manage to build the Far Rockaway Mott Avenue platform? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 28 18:38:40 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by NEPONSIT2006 on Wed Nov 28 18:37:13 2007. Because, IINM, it was privately built. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 28 19:52:45 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 28 11:16:02 2007. I would guess it's more accurate nowadays than years ago, because now it's computerized with Metrocard. Before, IINM, stats were nanual written down from counters, which I guess would leave some room for error. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 28 19:59:34 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Nov 27 23:18:43 2007. Staten Island is Nassau, right |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 29 02:45:57 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 28 07:54:11 2007. IAWTP. 82000 people is more than a sell-out crowd at Giants Stadium. I don't think they would let Giants Stadium rot and become unsafe. |
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Posted by murray1575 on Thu Nov 29 22:30:55 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Nov 28 18:38:40 2007. The current Mott Avenue station was built by the NYCTA and opened on 2/21/58. Trains terminated at Wave Crest from 6/28/56 until that date to permit widening of the elevated structure to accommodate the new station. The original LIRR station on the elevated structure built in 1942 (not 1956) had low level platforms not suitable for rapid transit use. The LIRR built a new ground level station a few blocks east of the old one. The old station was torn down and the property sold to become a shopping center. "Change at Ozone Park" by Herbert George documents all this as do many past threads. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 05:19:15 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by SMAZ on Thu Nov 29 02:45:57 2007. At Giants Stadium it would be more like 82,000 times the 8 games they would play there a fall season. Provided they had each game sold-out.And then the Jets play 8 games a year there also. Not to mention the concerts during the summer. I don't have the totals. But you get the idea. There would be more people at Giants Stadium over the course of the year than at Seaside. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 05:22:22 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Nov 28 19:59:34 2007. Someone should give you a NYC map for Christmas. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 05:26:42 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by murray1575 on Thu Nov 29 22:30:55 2007. The LIRR built a new ground level station a few blocks east of the old one. The old station was torn down and the property sold to become a shopping center.Behind the shopping center. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 07:04:38 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 05:19:15 2007. At Giants Stadium it would be more like 82,000 times the 8 games they would play there a fall season.No it wouldn't. Many people don't show up. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 07:13:50 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 07:04:38 2007. But it attendence still be more than the 82,000 that get on the train at Seaside. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 07:15:29 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 07:13:50 2007. Where did I say it wouldn't be? Stick to the issue. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Fri Nov 30 07:17:39 2007, in response to Re: Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 07:15:29 2007. I was refering to what SMAZ was talking about. |
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Posted by FarRock on Fri Nov 30 18:02:40 2007, in response to Rockaway Train Stations To Get Overhaul, posted by NEPONSIT2006 on Fri Nov 23 15:47:31 2007. There's a trackwork GO out here tomorrow. I seen a stack of new tangent track beds with concrete ties at Hammels Wyes. I'm gonna miss the bumpy ride out here. The smooth ride is boring. |
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