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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 11:25:21 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:33 2007. Yup, safety trumps all. As a responder I can not enter a scene until it is safe to do so, and I must take steps to keep the public safe too. Say a big old tank truck is on its side in the ditch. Damn sure I'll keep 600 feet back, and will not permit other traffic to pass me. I'll close the road and the hell with the cops and stuff. Let them do what they want when they get here.I got binoculars on the rig, and if I see a placard that it until Hazmat comes and says otherwise. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 11:27:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:04:36 2007. Yes they are.They may close a platform to the public if safety demands it. They may close a station or even a line if safety demands it. There aint squat you can do about it. ROAR |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 11:35:12 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 20:28:33 2007. Um, maybe this might be a tort matter.Like maybe someone at NYCT might want to speak to the photographer. Or maybe this is now an ongoing internal investigation, with the T/O and C/R involved. Some things should not be posted. Just some things. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 11:36:07 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:05:17 2007. That didn't stop you from taking photos of the bus accident. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:37:05 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 11:27:28 2007. Yes they are.They always will be no matter what anybody says they only "answer" to the Gov thats it.. They may give John and Jane-Q-Public "answers" but just some not all and not the whole picture.. They may close a platform to the public if safety demands it. Seen it done at Lenox like i stated earlier.. They may close a station or even a line if safety demands it. Seen it done on the 5 Line due to High Winds that could knock down trees, seen them shut the 2 Line down due to the BlackOut in Wakefield which did not affect the trains but they did not want people leaving the station in the pitch black dead of night. There aint squat you can do about it. To just take a bus or a car or a cab and deal with it, beacuse it happened to me when i was a passenger as well... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:38:18 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 11:35:12 2007. This isn't one of them. While the MTA could certainly ASK the photogapher not to share this photo, they have no power to prevent him from doing so. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:39:58 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:33 2007. I read your posts. The area does not look sealed off. If it was, then this debate would be over. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed Nov 7 11:42:20 2007, in response to PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 20:04:55 2007. Car numbers ?? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:43:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:11:04 2007. Actually, most do understand that if the MTA didn't want this pic taken,and if it was taken by an employee, the "beast" would strike back. The question is moot, since the pic was not taken by an employee.I see.. Of coruse there are "other" factors in this as well that few know about little things that lead to other things.. It really dont have Much to do with the picture taken but its part of it. I will leave it at that. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:45:22 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:39:58 2007. I read your posts. The area does not look sealed off.Do you know for a fact that it wasnt? That's the question... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:47:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed Nov 7 11:42:20 2007. I think somebody posted it somewhere..I do remember seeing 47 something.. |
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Posted by Stef on Wed Nov 7 11:52:18 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:47:04 2007. Pictures of the accident train have already made nycsubway.org! Go to the newest images section. It would appear that there isn't any photos of the first two cars that actually hit the bumping block, a note was added to the caption saying those cars would be sent to Coney Island for scrapping.Talk about fast....... -Stef |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:55:50 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Stef on Wed Nov 7 11:52:18 2007. Already seen those pictures...The first two cars of that consist are the the "money shot" ones though... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 7 12:30:41 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 11:35:12 2007. Huh? That has nothing to do with anything. Passenger on in-service platform within authorized area sees something. Passenger takes photo. Passenger posts photo. 100% OK. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 12:32:05 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 7 12:30:41 2007. That I agree.But it's the T/O and C/R jobs that are under the hot seat now. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 7 12:34:22 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Nov 7 12:32:05 2007. I think they would be on the hot seat photo or not.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Wed Nov 7 12:35:20 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 7 12:30:41 2007. IAWTP. Anything in public is fair game for a snapshot, even for the MTA since they allow photography.The only concern I do see is that they may get angry by this and try to change the current regulation and try to prevent photography, which would be impossible to do. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 7 13:26:07 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:22 2007. I was specifically referring to non-employees. The MTA can't order people to do something it's own rules state CAN be done.Sure, they can: 21 NYCRR 1050.3(a) "The Authority reserves the right from time to time to suspend, modify or revoke the application of any or all of the rules as it deems necessary or desirable." |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Nov 7 14:04:33 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 6 20:53:10 2007. I hope it's not telling you that you're performing an illegal operation .... that's not good .... :)--Mark |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 7 15:44:48 2007, in response to PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 20:04:55 2007. Looks like another R-42 bit the dust. Don't expect any repairs. Unusual to see old MTA logo. Just curious of the car numbers.Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed Nov 7 16:08:12 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 7 15:44:48 2007. NYC Subway .org has a few photos of the same car that`s in this thread which is 4786, so by pieceing together the information we come up with S] 4731 - 4730 - 4786 - 4787 - ? - ? - ? - ? N]I guess we can say goodby to these 4 -R 42`S. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Nov 7 17:00:53 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 7 13:26:07 2007. That sounds like it only applies to the "agency" at large at an official meeting, not at the whim an individual MTA employee unless as the "Lion" says, there is a clear and present danger of injury to passengers and/or other employees. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Nov 7 21:09:19 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by BAISLEYPARKRUSS on Tue Nov 6 23:00:00 2007. thank you!a friend told me the crew # as it turns out, I've worked with 'that c/r'(another railfan), many years ago |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Nov 7 21:10:12 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:47:04 2007. as posted--4731 hit the bumper block |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Nov 7 21:11:03 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Mr. D - Type on Wed Nov 7 16:08:12 2007. okay, goodby to these 4 -R 42`S..... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 21:13:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Wed Nov 7 21:10:12 2007. Thanks monorail good looking out.. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Nov 7 22:04:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Wed Nov 7 21:11:03 2007. Perhaps they can keep #4787 around for spare parts.wayne |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 8 02:12:49 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 00:04:07 2007. call SBK when in short supply... |
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Posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 8 02:13:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 23:28:47 2007. no more apple? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 8 06:20:41 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Nov 7 22:04:59 2007. And of course it had to be the one with the two-tone M logo |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:28:12 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 8 02:12:49 2007. So you saying I have foam?HAHAHA! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:37:21 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:28:12 2007. An abundance of foam. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:38:21 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:37:21 2007. Yea OK, sure...Please tell me, what makes me have foam? (no, I don't mean literally) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:44:57 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:38:21 2007. Simple, you're a foamer, foamers have foam. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:47:50 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:44:57 2007. Ah, nope, thats OK, a foamer is some one who does not work for transit, and gets caught in the back of an R160 train, riding the back cab, going to school, and now there looking for that person, and this person got caught twice, and now there looking for him. I aint like that. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:49:02 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:47:50 2007. yea sure. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 08:53:14 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Nov 7 22:04:59 2007. Moe is turning over in his grave. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Nov 8 08:56:30 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Nov 8 08:49:02 2007. Heh, i'm surprised you did not hear it, it happened a couple of weeks ago. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Nov 8 23:00:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Nov 8 08:53:14 2007. You remember back in '95, when Curly tried to kick Moe off the bridge?-w- |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 8 23:39:33 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by mtk52983 on Thu Nov 8 06:20:41 2007. what were the odds? :( |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 8 23:45:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:45:56 2007. I guess the ony harm is that the t/o would be 'made an example of'. Other than that like the TS-GC S crash, no one can stop anyone from taking a pic of the accident. It happened, and nothing can be done about it. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Thu Nov 8 23:49:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:02:53 2007. Well Disney owns ABC so at least they have one network that wouldn't report about it. |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:05:17 2007. 'Dude, that pic was NOT supposed to be posted!' how about these?    
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 9 05:48:58 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007. WOW.....Is that what i think it is?? GOOD stuff monorail i kinda knew that"somebody" might be you.. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Nov 9 06:05:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007. Oof, those bumpers don't move too much.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 9 08:22:08 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007. Ow!! Oooh!!! That smarts! |
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Posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 16:18:25 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 9 05:48:58 2007. 'WOW.....'.........wee? 'Is that what i think it is??'.......don't know, what do you think it is? 'GOOD stuff monorail i kinda knew that"somebody" might be you..'.......which "somebody" are you refering to? |
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Posted by bklynsubwaybob on Fri Nov 9 17:36:25 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007. Impressive photos.From what I can see that damage is pretty severe. With the quick disconnect box disconnected and the king pin out of its recepticle I'd say that the train was traveling about 15 MPH or less. I trust it was an 8 car train so there's plenty of inertia to sustain such damage at relatively low speeds. And that bumping block was going no where. Anyone know if it was mechanical or electrical malfunction or did the Motorman have a medical episode? bklynsubwaybob |
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Posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 9 17:40:52 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by bklynsubwaybob on Fri Nov 9 17:36:25 2007. Anyone know if it was mechanical or electrical malfunction or did the Motorman have a medical episode?People with "knowledge" of the "incident" aren't talking... To many "Grey Areas" i will leave it at that.. The Medical thing is being talked abaout in the Crew Rooms though.. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Nov 9 18:44:09 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Fri Nov 9 02:03:56 2007. Not bad, mono. You went down there yourself? Or had some one take the photos for you? |
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