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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by 15 BEECHHURST on Tue Sep 25 14:39:02 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. The hotel has become famous (?) for two things other than be4ing right across from MSG and NYP. It is where the Maury Show is filmed and also is the HQ hotel whenever the Westminster Kennel Club Show is in town. They set up a large pissoir for the dogs in one of the ballrooms, complete with hydrants and plkenty of sand.Can't imagine which establishment is going to snap up the contracts for either of those 2 groups... |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 14:40:17 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 14:09:02 2007. IIRC there is a door just north of the passageway. But passageway itself it walled off. However there is a crack where the ceiling meets the wall and there is ligh behind it. That is the passage. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 15:24:16 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:58:40 2007. I stayed in that dump twice when I worked for the state, the second time after filing a union grievance to no avail. This dump was one of three that New York State taxpayers put employees up when sentenced to a trip to NYC on "official bidness." The Pennsylvania, the Mildew Plaza and if your business took you to the state's offices at WTC, the lovely ALBERT "in the village."Between the three, the best chance of a night's sleep was the Albert primarily because the "contact high" from the hallways would put you to sleep. Ah well ... one dump down, two more to go. :) |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Tue Sep 25 15:33:33 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by 15 BEECHHURST on Tue Sep 25 14:39:02 2007. When is this hotel going?Because on the westminster site, and maury, the address and hotel is still listed for 2008. |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 15:37:01 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 14:09:02 2007. It is on the south side of 33rd StreetROAR |
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Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. Found in THIS thread.  There are more in that thread. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:36:23 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 15:24:16 2007. I think the Milford Plaza was converted into Condos, but don't quote me on that. |
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Re: McKim, Meade & White Designed Hotel Pennsylvania's Demolition Begins |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:38:32 2007, in response to Re: McKim, Meade & White Designed Hotel Pennsylvania's Demolition Begins, posted by Russ on Tue Sep 25 13:35:37 2007. Yes, it was designed by the same architects that designed Penn Station and the Post Office. |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:38:59 2007, in response to Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by UWS Greg on Tue Sep 25 14:07:48 2007. Isn't there already a Duane Reade on ground level of the Hotel Pennsylvania? |
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Re: Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 17:59:10 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. Gimbels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 18:00:34 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 15:24:16 2007. Yea, but you were tax exempt while staying there! |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:03:04 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 25 11:27:41 2007. You're nuts. Manhattan has a much greater need for more Au Bon Pain's!!! |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 25 18:04:20 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Sep 25 11:27:41 2007. That aroma of over-roasted coffee will fill the streets and everyone will pick up the pace and march right over to Best Buy for their IPhones, just in time for tonight's Charbucks/Drunken Donuts rumble!your pal, Fred PS...I gotta switch to decaf |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 25 18:06:20 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. Ah!!I remember that place well.. Laid some serious Pipe in that Hotel... When i was a Plumber... What you thought something else?? Get yer minds out of the Gutter!!! |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:19:56 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 11:02:09 2007. It's funny how modern architecture, an opposition to types such as the Hotel Penn, are often built in their translucent forms to provide a great view of surrounding old buildings as a backdrop for those inside, but have little or no aesthetic value of their own. An example is London's Scotland Yard Building which provides an excellent view of Parliament from many of its offices (as a backdrop), but aside from that rotating sign is quite bland. |
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Re: Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:29:35 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. goody for you |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:31:13 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 11:57:07 2007. Americans are too used to cookie cutter franchises. So that's the problem.So true, and in every way, beyond just hotels. Last year when I worked in Greenpoint, I was going out with some guys for lunch and saw an old lunch-counter and suggested we go there, and immediately everyone had sour looks and said, we'd be better off going to McDonald's "because we know it". And somebody I know visited Greece, said they were "so lucky" to find a Starbucks there! |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:31:37 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Michael549 on Tue Sep 25 11:49:28 2007. Don't worry you'll have at least 3 more years of those "conventions" left. May more if they can get their act together. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Sep 25 18:31:45 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:03:04 2007. Who needs that - masochists?? |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:33:25 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 13:13:05 2007. LOOK on 32nd street |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:34:20 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 13:13:05 2007. Thanks Mr Anderson, MUCH better than mine. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 18:36:22 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:31:13 2007. Ugh. Exactly. That's how Applebee's gets around.If I was in Greece or somewhere, I'd probably try McDonalds once for the novelty of it, since I never go stateside. What about pizza's? Papa Johns and Dominos. Although, I usually only get those at free lunches, and then, I'm not going to complain. :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:37:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 15:37:01 2007. C O R E E C T A M U N D Ounder the sidewalk |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 18:37:52 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by heypaul on Tue Sep 25 05:47:33 2007. There are companies that sell and auction off hotel stuff from all the hotels that remodel everyyear.I think one was in New York, Maybe I can remember the name...... |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:38:21 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by BMTLines on Tue Sep 25 18:31:45 2007. Ha.....ha.....ha..... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:38:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 13:52:21 2007. ...and JUST what company would that be ????? Yente boy |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:41:19 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Railman718 on Tue Sep 25 18:06:20 2007. smoked some serious pipe there myself......... |
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Re: Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:42:11 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. knew you would find a way to scream REPOST. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:44:05 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:03:04 2007. Au bon pain just sells pre-processed crap |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 18:46:20 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:37:06 2007. I'm not denying that the passageway is under 33rd. But I do remember that I used to exit on the north side of 32nd St. near 7th Ave. Maybe I was just exiting from the subway station and not from the passageway itself - that's why I would like to see what's down there if possible. |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Sep 25 18:46:29 2007, in response to Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by UWS Greg on Tue Sep 25 14:07:48 2007. There's one in Penn Plaza, Amtrak level (across from the NJT hall). |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 18:48:15 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:33:25 2007. That's tomorrow's field trip :-) |
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Posted by Sir Ray on Tue Sep 25 18:49:59 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fred G on Tue Sep 25 05:07:21 2007. "Maybe they'll erect some luxury condos"Not sure about that (besides some people posting in this thread about an office tower) as Crain's NY had an article last week about a stop to Office->Condo conversions that were planned around Manhattan, because the condo market is very soft right now, and office tower refurbishment is much cheaper than residental conversion. |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by murray1575 on Tue Sep 25 18:52:06 2007, in response to Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Sep 25 18:46:29 2007. As there is adjacent to the 34th St. entrance and also on almost every street corner in midtown (or so it seems). |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:54:00 2007, in response to Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by UWS Greg on Tue Sep 25 14:07:48 2007. rotf lmao |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:56:30 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 18:46:20 2007. That's easy just use the exit for the "1" train. I'll try to get you a photo. TM |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 25 19:10:58 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 14:09:02 2007. I'm pretty sure it's 33rd Street. I used to use that passageway all the time and at the 7th Avenue side there is a cross-under under the IRT to the LIRR which was outside of fare control. If I'm not mistaken the cross-under to the LIRR is at 33rd Street. When I worked at MSG as a teen (vendor) the employee entrance was at 8th & 33rd. I would take the 6th Avenue IND and walk all the way from 6th to 8th Underground. The Eastern end of the passageway was right at the PATH Station. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 20:08:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 18:46:20 2007. But you were heading for an LIRR train, right? So if you walk from Madison Sq Park up to 33rd and Broadway, went underground and entered the passageway, walked across the passageway and ended up at 33rd and Seventh, why would you go down to 32nd and why would you come up outside? Why wouldn't you immediately go to the LIRR gates at 33rd opposite the exit of the passageway? |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 20:14:02 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 12:32:14 2007. yep, you got it |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:20:27 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 18:19:56 2007. The deal is that the way they build buildings has changed, and you would not build that kind of a building today. First of all, people *want* more window view that a double hung sash can provide. Next, we no longer build with masonry all the way up. Yes the RCA building, the Empire State building, and the Chrysler building were all built that way, but now everything is built around a central core, with the prime wall space sold to tenants. Nowadays a building is built with its load on the core, and not on the outer walls.One might remodel that building, but it would not become a 60 story tower. For that, you have to remove it and start over again. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Tue Sep 25 20:35:03 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:20:27 2007. Yes the RCA building, the Empire State building, and the Chrysler building were all built that way, but now everything is built around a central core, with the prime wall space sold to tenants.That's true. They are modern, but they are art deco modern as opposed to these translucent structures which are obviously modern in a different sense. One might remodel that building, but it would not become a 60 story tower. For that, you have to remove it and start over again. Which is what they are planning, no? They should remodel it, but it seems they're not interested. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:37:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Sep 25 19:10:58 2007. Yes. That is where the tunnel was. It was of course outside of fare control since shoppers from Gimbles Basement could wander in and out of it.From the NYP side there were a few steps up (to the south) and then a turn into the narrow tunnel to the east. Probably up a few more steps IIRC, since it was at the Basement Level of the Hotel and of Gimbles, and these were above the transit level. On the HSq side there were steps down past Gimbles Basement entrys from the plaza between PATH Fare Control and IND Fare Control. IIRC, BMT fare control would have been further north. Remember, as built, the fare controls would still have been separate. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:39:13 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:38:59 2007. I am not sure that the same company *owns* everything. But methinks the same company does manage everything. Begins with a "V" if I recall correctly. I remember visiting their website once upon a time.ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 20:41:39 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:36:23 2007. Sure hope they painted first ... :) |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:43:28 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Sir Ray on Tue Sep 25 18:49:59 2007. The Franciscans just built a 60 story apartment building on some of their land almost across the street from NYP (on 32nd Street). Banner signs read "NOW RENTING". Methinks that these *are* rental units, and they will not be on the cheap side of anything either.ROAR |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 20:45:50 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 18:00:34 2007. Wasn't charged for the room either. Taxpayers footed those stays. I think they woulda gotten a better deal and me a lot more sleep if they'd put me up on the Staten Island Ferry for the night. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:00:50 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:39:13 2007. Why do you doubt me? Like I said, the same company owns everything related to the Gimbels Passage, from the west side of Sixth Avenue to the west side of Seventh Ave. It is Vornado Realty Trust. |
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Re: Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by Karl B on Tue Sep 25 21:01:25 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 17:59:10 2007. Does that mean you have never heard of Gimbels? |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:03:24 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Sep 25 20:43:28 2007. Methinks that these *are* rental units, and they will not be on the cheap side of anything either.What "are" rental units? The Franciscans building or the building replacing the Hotel? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 25 21:54:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:00:50 2007. Vornado Realty Trust.The last vestige of Two Guys from Harrison. |
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