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Guess the location

Posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:19:08 2007

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Identify the location of this construction image


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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Jul 30 22:27:51 2007, in response to Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:19:08 2007.

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Is that Queensboro Plaza?

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:29:36 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Q46 LTD Glen Oaks on Mon Jul 30 22:27:51 2007.

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No

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:32:12 2007, in response to Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:19:08 2007.

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Gunhill Road at White Plains, looking north. :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 30 22:32:53 2007, in response to Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:19:08 2007.

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Gun Hill Road?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 30 22:35:10 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:32:12 2007.

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beat me by 40 seconds u albany metro area rube :D

your pal,
fred

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:36:08 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 30 22:35:10 2007.

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Heh. Sorry guy ... used to live near there. That one was just TOO easy. :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 30 22:38:01 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:36:08 2007.

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Tell me about it, even I knew it!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:39:49 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:32:12 2007.

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The deconstruction pics were in the news lately.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 30 22:41:16 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:32:12 2007.

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Darn you guys are fast..

Knew that was Gun Hill Road and White Plains also since i lived in that area as well..

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:45:26 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Railman718 on Mon Jul 30 22:41:16 2007.

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Small, little inbred world obviously. Heh.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:46:30 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:39:49 2007.

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Did they remove the hump for the deuce and make it level, or did they just remove the steel for the Third Avenue? Haven't seen what they changed.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jul 30 23:47:44 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:45:26 2007.

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I rarely get these questions right. So I'm impressed with all of you.

Now, the weekly Motley Fool quiz about publicly traded companies...I'm scoring 85% for the past 3 months or so.



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Re: Guess the location

Posted by R42 4787 on Mon Jul 30 23:57:59 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:32:12 2007.

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Damn, that Gun Hill Road looked sure looked like QPBP while built.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 00:35:56 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by R42 4787 on Mon Jul 30 23:57:59 2007.

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The catch with QBP was that when they were building THAT, there were actually two els, side by side. Some pics of that have been posted before. The lower level turnout though for the Third avenue el to go down Gunhill over to Webster which is what made this one so easy to spot.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Stef on Tue Jul 31 00:48:32 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:46:30 2007.

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The hump is still there. The Lower Level Platform for what was the Third Av El was completely obliterated, with parts of the structure removed, while other portions were incorporated into the new station house.

-Stef

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 00:53:25 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Stef on Tue Jul 31 00:48:32 2007.

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Guess it would have been too expensive to just flatten all that out given nothing will ever head down Gunhill again.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by mellow one on Tue Jul 31 05:48:30 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Fred G on Mon Jul 30 22:32:53 2007.

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Yes, it is the Gun Hill Road Station structure on White Plains Road of the that line. The lower portion would be the station of the Bronx 3rd Ave El extension to there. The White Plains road line was opened in 1917. The 3rd Ave El extension was opened in 1920. This image dates to about 1916.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 07:12:29 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:46:30 2007.

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Haven't seen what they changed.

I guess you haven't checked two very likely sources of photos on the internet, where I have posted extensive photo of all the work.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Jul 31 07:16:40 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 07:12:29 2007.

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You're so humble.

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Re: Guess the location, then, then and now

Posted by mellow one on Tue Jul 31 14:56:50 2007, in response to Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:19:08 2007.

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The Gun Hill Road Station on White Plains Road was constructed in 1916 and was opened in 1917. The two tier station structure was built to accomadate the junction of the northern extenson of the 3rd Ave El on Webster Ave to this point.



The northern extension of the 3rd Ave El was built in 1918 and opened in 1920.
The Bronx portion of the 3rd Ave El remained in use until 1973 as shown below.

The lower level of the Gun Hill Road station remained unused until 2006.
The former lower level 3rd Ave El platforms and the remnant of the connecting structure to Gun Hill Road were removed and the station complex was rebuilt to this current configutration.

So, another remnant of NYC Elevated Railway History is gone. However, the former connecting rampjunction north of the station remains as evidence of its connection to the 3rd Av El.

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Re: Guess the location, then, then and now

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jul 31 15:00:15 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, then, then and now, posted by mellow one on Tue Jul 31 14:56:50 2007.

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Nothing like a recent pic to complete a visible history of the station.

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Re: Guess the location, then, then and now

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 15:34:30 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, then, then and now, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jul 31 15:00:15 2007.

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Isn't it great that someone went and took one, just for that purpose?

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 15:36:16 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 07:12:29 2007.

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"Extensive photo?" How big IS it? Or is that rather a personal question, sir? Nope ... barely have time to come here and watch the circus. I'll have to see about getting a pager and signing up for alerts. :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 15:39:10 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 15:36:16 2007.

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Obviously that should have said "photos".

No, you have it all wrong. If you want to see photos of something, you go search them out. Where are two places very likely to have subway photos? Go to them and you will find what you are looking for.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 16:15:47 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 15:39:10 2007.

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But ... you made a MISTAKE! :)

And if you CAREFULLY read what I asked, I didn't ASK for photos. I said that I hadn't seen what they did. Why take a photo when you can VISIT and SEE with actual meat camera? The implication was asking what they DID. If I want to see pictures, I can turn on the teevee. THOSE pics move and actually fill a screen! Moo.

And no ... subways stuff isn't so important to me that I have a need or desire to go searching for stuff. Then again, I have a life. ;)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 16:25:24 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 16:15:47 2007.

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I know what you said. You said you didn't see it. Photos allow you to see it. If you meant you haven't visited the location, then you should have said so. I'd like to know how the photos can't show you what you need to "see" there.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:06:53 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 16:25:24 2007.

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Sheesh ... I haven't seen you either - doesn't mean I need photos. :)

Uh-oh ... uh-oh ... Wapner ... definitely Wapner ... definitely, definitely Wapner ... uh-oh.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 17:07:34 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:06:53 2007.

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I haven't seen you either

I doubt that.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:08:38 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 17:07:34 2007.

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Unless you ride PATH regularly, I haven't. There's a whole WORLD out there that hasn't been photographed. I kinda like that concept. :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 17:11:37 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:08:38 2007.

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What does riding PATH have to do with anything? You said you haven't seen me. I doubt that. Photos of me have been posted here many times.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:15:47 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 17:11:37 2007.

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Thanks for the continuing comedy ... your assumption is that I care, and it's misguided. I'm sure there's been photos of you out the wazoo. But ya see? Photos just don't DO it for me. We haven't MET. Until we do, I haven't seen you. A bunch of pixels whether on paper or a screen are just that. A bunch of dots. Doesn't compare to being IMMERSED in something real. Memorex just doesn't stick to the old meatrom like BEING there, and that's the media *I* prefer. :)

You still misinterpreted my original post and are yammering on trying to justify it. Don't bother, it doesn't matter to me. I just wanted to know what they did, if anything. Don't need to see a photo, would have taken somebody's WORD for it. I'm real easy, at least in THIS shirt. (grin)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 17:44:07 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:46:30 2007.

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As someone who drove the Bronx River Parkway with the el and without a very big change is the Gun Hill Rd overpass. Even today I kind of expect to see the el on top of the overpass.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 17:47:03 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Tue Jul 31 05:48:30 2007.

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Glad there wasn't betting allowed on this one as I was so sure it was this site pictured below. I wasn't even close, only the other end of the city!!! I guess it was the turning streetcar tracks that threw me off.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:53:06 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 17:44:07 2007.

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I used to just cut through the park from 204th up to Gunhill and White Plains, used to own a recording studio on 233rd and often just hoofed it if I didn't take the el ... there's a foot underpass under the BRP so I know the scene you describe there.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:55:13 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 17:47:03 2007.

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Yeah, they didn't allow BMT standards in the Bronx anyway - we had a militia equipped with TOW missiles to take any out should they have entered the territory. :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 31 18:30:55 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:55:13 2007.

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LOL!

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 18:38:44 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:15:47 2007.

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You wanted to know what they did there? Someone's word would have been fine? So why wouldn't photos have been fine? Just go to one of the two largest repositories of nyc subway photos and you could have seen what was done. Then you wouldn't have to say that you haven't seen it.

You can try to justify why you didn't go look up photos all you want, but none of your excuses will hold water.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 18:52:52 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 18:38:44 2007.

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What are you getting all worked up about? Do you realize how silly you're making yourself look by continuing this? Nope. :)

How about disassembling and rebuilding a control stand for a subway car? It'll make you feel a lot better about yourself, but I'll bet you're not into it. I'm not asking you to try it or make it a focal point. So why should I get a rip-roaring pants pole over pictures? I merely wanted to know what they did there. And I made the mistake of saying that I hadn't seen it (not that I needed to) not knowing your obsessive-compulsive thing would kick in the way it did. Do you have mental health coverage? If so, suggest taking your insurer up on it. =]

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 31 19:12:59 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 18:52:52 2007.

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Brian's content to be with his disability. He doesn't want to fix it.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 19:18:25 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 18:52:52 2007.

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I merely wanted to know what they did there.

Right. You've said that many times. And I've said that looking at photos of it would tell you what they did there. So what is your point?

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 19:56:03 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 18:52:52 2007.

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Ding.
End of round one.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jul 31 19:58:29 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 17:55:13 2007.

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They didn't have PCC's either.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 20:27:14 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 19:18:25 2007.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 20:28:37 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 20:27:14 2007.

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So you can't explain how photos wouldn't show you what was done? Wow. Just wow.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 21:11:11 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 20:28:37 2007.

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Yeah, I be mystified myself ... but I'm sure you can explain it all to us given that I didn't ask to be SHOWN anything ... but hey, carry on, you're on a tear and you've been amusing me like a kitty with a dangling furball in my face ... been fun! Go for it! :)

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 21:28:12 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 21:11:11 2007.

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I can't explain it either. It seems like you should be able to but why you can't is a mystery to me.

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 21:35:00 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 21:28:12 2007.

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Why should *I* have to explain YOUR misinterpretation? Yo ... Mister perfect ... factor me that! :)

So for the sake of monumental stupidity (I'm drawing up the FRP's for construction now) "let's go to the videotape!"

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 30 22:46:30 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by mellow one on Mon Jul 30 22:39:49 2007.

Did they remove the hump for the deuce and make it level, or did they just remove the steel for the Third Avenue? Haven't seen what they changed.


Nowhere did I ask for photographs, I asked a simple question as to WHAT they did given I hadn't been at street level to obsderve since the changes were made. A verbal response would have been more than adequate, and sufficed nicely. Until YOU stuck your nose in it.



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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 21:39:50 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 21:35:00 2007.

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Nowhere did I ask for photographs

I know that. Never said otherwise. In fact I never said you asked for anything. Your the one going on about that...

I asked a simple question as to WHAT they did given I hadn't been at street level to obsderve since the changes were made. A verbal response would have been more than adequate, and sufficed nicely.

I agree. But photographs would answer your question as well. So why not just look them up?

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Re: Guess the location

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 31 21:40:10 2007, in response to Re: Guess the location, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 31 21:35:00 2007.

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Nowhere did I ask for photographs

I know that. Never said otherwise. In fact I never said you asked for anything. You're the one going on about that...

I asked a simple question as to WHAT they did given I hadn't been at street level to obsderve since the changes were made. A verbal response would have been more than adequate, and sufficed nicely.

I agree. But photographs would answer your question as well. So why not just look them up?

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