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A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by oaksmodelrr on Sun Jul 8 22:16:33 2007

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Gotta hand it to these guys, they work in some of the worst weather. Hot as hell but they still put the new signals in today, and they sure are purdy (gag, chortle, hurl) ....

BTW was told that Lunar White is part of the NORAC code but SEPTA does not use it (yet?)

http://www.trainweb.org/phillynrhs/RPOTW.html


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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 08:03:13 2007, in response to A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Sun Jul 8 22:16:33 2007.

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Well, that didn't last long. The CSX transfer run from Lansdale to Philadelphia, C746, literally knocked down the signal for the industrial track (signal on the right on last picture), dragging it across Main Street until it hit the in service signal for the runner, taking it out as well. The runner signal is back in service this morning with the remnants of the new signal and cage along side.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by WillD on Mon Jul 9 16:17:48 2007, in response to A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Sun Jul 8 22:16:33 2007.

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A facinating series of photos, thanks for sharing that ongoing project with us.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 16:45:02 2007, in response to A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Sun Jul 8 22:16:33 2007.

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The Safetran unilens signals don't use LED's, but fiber optics.

Also, it seems like SEPTA is again fucking things up by disregarding the "drawf signal to the right of the track they govern" rule. Yeah, like that won't cause confusion.

The million dollar question is when SEPTA will finally install proper full aspect home signals at the interlockings with 'C' boards for CSS failure. They should visit the NJT Pascack Valley line or the MTBA old colony to see how it's done be done.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 16:45:48 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 08:03:13 2007.

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Talk about the keystone track gang. That's what you get when a bus company tries to run a railroad.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 21:06:01 2007, in response to A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Sun Jul 8 22:16:33 2007.

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Yesterday had the before and after pics, today the after after pics. Let's just say, when they were talking about protecting the signals, I don't think they were thinking "from a freight train".

http://www.trainweb.org/phillynrhs/RPOTW.html


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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 9 22:02:55 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 21:06:01 2007.

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That’s so ironically funny! Is this because of siting the signals wrongly (or the protection boxes being oversized) or something CSX sent along with a car outside the loading gauge?

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 9 22:06:46 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 16:45:02 2007.

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The Safetran unilens signals don't use LED's, but fiber optics.

The two aren’t incompatible, but it looks like the illumination is some sort of incandescent bulb from this photograph.



I’m using the reflector as a guide, though it is amusing from an engineering point of view to find the light spread out, only to be collimated again by the fiber optic adapter.

LED laser direct to fiber next time?

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 9 22:07:18 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 21:06:01 2007.

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Priceless! That's the CSX I know. :)

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 22:58:14 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 9 22:02:55 2007.

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Without quizzing the engineering dept, I would have to guess that someone decided the signals needed cages long after the placement of the signals was worked out. Probably thought it was a good idea at down at HQ. I did not think vandalism was such a big problem there, not like in the city. I was told that the cages were a big hit (with SEPTA that is) when they were installed on the R8 Fox Chase Line, where the signals had been a favorite target of idle or drunken teenagers.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 23:49:07 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by JohnL on Mon Jul 9 22:06:46 2007.

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It has something to do with bulb out detection.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 23:53:37 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by oaksmodelrr on Mon Jul 9 21:06:01 2007.

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HA ha, are we learning yet?

Seriously, dwarf signals should be mounted low and to the right of the track they govern. Not just randomly placed there they seem to fit.

Someone needs the credit for installing the Unilens signals as opposed to some sort of MNRR style stack which can only ever display two aspects. This means that at least SEPTA can recover from its Rule 562 debacle.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 23:55:02 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jul 9 22:07:18 2007.

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Actually, this is the one case where CSX was the hand of common sense. Amazing, only SEPTA can out-CSX CSX.

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Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 10 02:06:27 2007, in response to Re: A jump ahead in the Dale Interlocking saga, posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Jul 9 23:55:02 2007.

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Sounds like a dare! :)

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