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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 20:29:13 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by LA Blue Line on Sat Apr 28 20:07:58 2007.

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10 total and eight that are working.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by R30A on Sat Apr 28 20:35:00 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Apr 28 18:30:11 2007.

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on a boat

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by error46146 on Sat Apr 28 20:42:11 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 14:04:00 2007.

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EWW! FAKE R32!!

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 20:53:35 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 18:37:48 2007.

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I believe you are incorrect. See this post. R 32 Overhaul was synonymous with Phase 1, (cars below 3650 and R 32 A with Phase 2, 3650 and above.

If I remember correctly there were 286 Phase 1 and 290 Phase 2 cars.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 21:03:45 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 20:53:35 2007.

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no, he's right, I never said that.

Phase one were the cars that were in worse shape and went first. Phase 2s went afterwards. there is no corlation in numbers and phases.

You frist, you corect me on GOH, then you cite me?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 21:06:37 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 20:53:35 2007.

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Mismatched pairs: 3348 & 3549 (3348 was formerly 3659), 3382 & 3831, 3383 & 3890, 3418 & 3863, 3419 & 3740, 3420 & 3645, 3421 & 3558, 3444 & 3777, 3445 & 3468, 3469 & 3592, 3470 & 3919, 3471 & 3658, 3502 & 3905, 3503 & 3600, 3520 & 3891, 3521 & 3862, 3530 & 3741, 3531 & 3830, 3548 & 3593, 3559 & 3904, 3601 & 3918, 3617 & 3776, 3621 & 3644, 3628 & 3669, 3650 & 3767.

there are some in there that have one mate above the A mark and one below.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:16:32 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 20:53:35 2007.

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"I believe you are incorrect."

I can see why you may think so. Because you might have your facts incorrect. The R-32As were built before the R-32s and thus have lower numbers. The cars, however, were overhauled beginning with the worst performing, and not in numerical order so perhaps this is what has you confused.

Then again, I was one of the people who oversaw the warranty and acceptance of the R-32 GOH program back in the late 80s. So you can see why I believe that I might be correct and you may be incorrect.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 21:18:01 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 21:03:45 2007.

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Correcting you on GOH doesn't mean that any of your other information was wrong. It is a common error. For some reason I thought they didn't mix cars with different propulsion systems, but I also remember sending out the worst cars first, so I guess you are right. Sorry for stating misinformation.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:25:53 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 17:22:44 2007.

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1. there are 600 cars.

2. at frist they were R32R-32A (3350-3649) and R32AR-32 (3650-3949)-the R-32As came with Westinghouse Propulsion Packages while the R-32s came with GE SCM controllers.Both R-32 and R-32A had a mix of GE and Westinghouse propulsion packages

3. The ENTIRE R32 fleet was built by The Budd Company. There are no "fake" 32s. However, when their General overhauls came in the late 80's, ten cars were sent to GE in Buffalo instead of Morrison Knudsen. those ten are the R 32 GEs. When the cars came back, they were split into three groups, Phase 1, phase 2 and GE

R32 Phase 1-(re-built by Morrison Knudsen) have WABCO Air Brake packages, GE Master Controllers (Throttle) and Thermo King HVAC units

R32 Phase 2- (also re-built by Morrison Knudsen) have NY Air Brake equipment, Westinghouse Master Controllers and Stone Safety HVAC units.

(phase 1 and phase 2 sets now compise mixed 32 and 32A making the old name moot.)


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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by BIE on Sat Apr 28 21:29:00 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:25:53 2007.

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So the R32GEs were rebuilt at the GE Apparatus Service Shop at Buffalo?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:31:20 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by BIE on Sat Apr 28 21:29:00 2007.

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They were rebuilt in Buffalo. Where exactly, I'm not sure. That took place before I became part of that team. I only got to go to Buffalo once during the GOH program and Buffalo in late November seemed more like a punishment.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 21:43:11 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:25:53 2007.

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I copyed that so don't blame me

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:51:11 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 21:43:11 2007.

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Not blaming - just correcting.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 22:11:52 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 18:32:17 2007.

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PWN3D!!!



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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by error46146 on Sat Apr 28 22:14:36 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 18:32:17 2007.

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Error

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 22:42:35 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:51:11 2007.

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from the R 32 page on NYCSubway.org

R32 IND/BMT 3350-3649* Budd 1964
R32A IND/BMT 3650-3949 Budd 1964


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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 22:44:39 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by LA Blue Line on Sat Apr 28 20:07:58 2007.

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There are 10.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Apr 28 22:58:35 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by error46146 on Sat Apr 28 20:42:11 2007.

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Dude, shut the fuck up. There are no such things as a fake R32. All of them are real. God shall punish you by riding R46's for the rest of your life.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 28 23:00:39 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by error46146 on Sat Apr 28 12:48:32 2007.

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3880/81 and 3934/35 were back in Queens within the last week. In addition I saw 4 regular R32's which I believe are assigned to Pitkin running on the Queens IND: 3424/25 and 3888/89. Don't know if these 8 cars are on loan to Jamaica Barn or assigned there at the present time.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 23:03:56 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by 33rd Street on Sat Apr 28 22:58:35 2007.

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That would be punishment for the R46.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 23:08:28 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 22:11:52 2007.

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Meh?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by mambomta on Sat Apr 28 23:10:36 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 16:41:31 2007.

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Well, they're assigned to 2 different yards...

They used to all be assigned to the same shop.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Apr 28 23:12:30 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 13:09:04 2007.

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3594-95 Are out of service

Permanently or temporarily OOS ?

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 28 23:23:25 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 16:17:09 2007.

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When the R32's were sent out for GOH, they were sent out according to need. Meaning the worst cars went out first for GOH, irregardless of the car number. The first group of cars to return from M/K were Phase I's and the second group to return were Phase II's, figuring on a 50%/50% split. There is no relationship between car numbers and if they are a Phase I or a Phase II. Train Dude and myself work with the cars daily (albeit on a different basis) and we are in a position to know. 3348 is a Phase II. So is 3350/51 and 3352/53. But 3354/55 are Phase I's. I forget what 3356/57 are, but 3358/59 are Phase I's. Going to the end of the R32 roster, yes 3940 to 3949 are Phase II's but 3938/39 are Phase I's. In summary, between 3348 (3349 does not exist) and 3949, there is a complete mixture of Phase I's and Phase II's.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BIE on Sat Apr 28 23:30:26 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 22:44:39 2007.

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but two of the ten are OOS.

Quote from Train Dude:
"3594-95 Are out of service
3880-81 & 3934-35 are on the E line (usually)
3892-93 & 3936-37 are assigned to the A & C lines"



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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 23:40:07 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 21:16:32 2007.

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Then I must know you or at least your name because I was also involved in the R32 GOH Program.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:41:58 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by metropod on Sat Apr 28 22:42:35 2007.

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My information comes from;

MTA New York City Transit
Car Equipment and Technical Support
Revenue and Non-Revenue Car Drawing Manual

Date Jan 1998

Which do you suppose is more accurate?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:45:18 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Apr 28 23:00:39 2007.

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3424-25 and 3888-89 also belong to the Jamaica fleet. There were a total of 12 cars that were temporally re-assigned from Jamaica to Pitkin while the Pitkin R-32s were undergoing SMS. Now that all Pitkin cars have been completed, the 12 cars were returned to Jamaica.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:46:16 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Apr 28 23:12:30 2007.

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They are temporarilly out of service until they are scrapped :)

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 23:48:09 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BIE on Sat Apr 28 23:30:26 2007.

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Again, like I said, there are 10.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 23:49:11 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Nilet on Sat Apr 28 23:08:28 2007.

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No.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:51:20 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Apr 28 23:40:07 2007.

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In what capacity? I came in about 1/2 way through and did the warranty and acceptance at Jamaica and then did the R-46s.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 23:51:46 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Apr 28 23:12:30 2007.

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In better days:

R-32GE 3595 @ Chambers St (A). Photo taken by Brian Weinberg, 4/5/2006.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 23:59:13 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:46:16 2007.

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May as well cannibalize them for parts then.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Apr 29 00:01:14 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BIE on Sat Apr 28 23:30:26 2007.

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Best answer

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 29 00:03:46 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:51:20 2007.

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I was Project Manager for the M-K Phase 1 and 2 and the R-42s for the first half downtown at Lawrence Street so we may not know each other. Attended at least three meetings at Jamaica. There were about a dozen people at those meetings which held in a trailer. My job was changed about when the first cars started arriving back from Hornell so I stopped going to the meetings then.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 00:04:15 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Grand concourse on Sat Apr 28 23:59:13 2007.

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How do you know they haven't already?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Nilet on Sun Apr 29 00:19:45 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Apr 28 23:49:11 2007.

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Yes?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Apr 29 00:26:40 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 00:04:15 2007.

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Well since i don't work at the yards, I don't know that.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 01:35:44 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by BrooklynBus on Sun Apr 29 00:03:46 2007.

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I just sent you an e-mail re the GOH program. No sense in boring everyone here.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 01:46:47 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 01:35:44 2007.

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Actually it is very interesting and I'm sure many people here are enjoying this sub-thread. Your real reason for taking it to email is likely that you want to say things to him that you don't feel would be appropriate to say on this board - things that would get you in trouble with NYCT.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 02:03:54 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 01:46:47 2007.

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Actually, dickwad, I wanted to mention names of people who might not want their names posted here. Your supposition, as usual is incorrect.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 02:05:20 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 01:46:47 2007.

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By the way, have I told you today how totally obnoxious and annoying I find you?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 08:33:52 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 02:03:54 2007.

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That obviously falls under what I said.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 08:34:28 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 02:05:20 2007.

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Glad to have pissed you off. I will try to do it more often now.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 08:49:42 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 08:34:28 2007.

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You'll have to work a little harder to get me pissed off.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 09:08:15 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 08:49:42 2007.

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Nope, seems like I'm doing a fine job, based upon the post you made earlier.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction)

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Apr 29 10:48:56 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds (Slight Correction), posted by Train Dude on Sat Apr 28 23:41:58 2007.

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Car Equipment.

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Apr 29 11:06:28 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 08:33:52 2007.

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Actually, no it doesn't. It does mean you need to get your head out of Subchat and do something else for a while.

What is Tamar doing today?

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Re: R32 GE Rebuilds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Apr 29 11:53:41 2007, in response to Re: R32 GE Rebuilds, posted by Train Dude on Sun Apr 29 02:03:54 2007.

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That was included in what I said.

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