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A Shot From The Past |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007 
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jan 9 12:51:09 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. Good 'ol Fresh Pond Road Station. Wish those subway cars were still running today. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:52:17 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jan 9 12:51:09 2007. That was actually a fan trip sometime in the late 80's I believe. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 12:56:07 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. R10 fantrip, October 1989. I hated these cars, but I loved the paintscheme. I wish the R30's had been done with the same green, instead of red. |
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Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Jan 9 13:02:12 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. coolAre those trolley tracks on the ground? |
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Posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Tue Jan 9 13:09:47 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. Great pic of the R10! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 13:15:18 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Mr. Harlem Line on Tue Jan 9 13:09:47 2007. Thanks! |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 13:17:08 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Jan 9 13:02:12 2007. I'm not sure. The Fresh Pond Bus Depot is over to the left, I'm not sure if it was originally a trolley barn at one time. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jan 9 13:19:42 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:52:17 2007. I didn't think there was a train that went from Metro to Coney Island. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:24:40 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jan 9 13:19:42 2007. The M did. 1973 to 1986. I rode them. I swear it on a Bible. |
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Posted by mellow one on Tue Jan 9 13:26:56 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Jan 9 13:02:12 2007. Not only are those trolley tracks, they were the rapid transit tracks.See my Brooklyn Lutheran Cemetary surface ROW Photo Page. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jan 9 13:29:17 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:24:40 2007. No need to go that far. You might be right. After I wrote, I realised there was a M train that was something like a Brighton Local 20+ years ago. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:30:04 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by mellow one on Tue Jan 9 13:26:56 2007. Awesome pics. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:32:51 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Jan 9 13:29:17 2007. The first time I ever went to Coney Island, it was on an M train. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 13:34:43 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:24:40 2007. And I used to see them, everyday. Mostly R27/30, but some R38, and R40M/42 cars were used. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:42:53 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jan 9 13:34:43 2007. I rode them mostly in late '85/early 86 and it was almost always the 27/30's, with an occasional R42. The M almost never got burdened with the R16's while it was on the Brighton line and I always wondered why. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:42:53 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 13:17:08 2007. Sure was ... rumor has it that there's still steel under the floor too. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:43:46 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:24:40 2007. Oh noes! Faith based railroading! :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:45:09 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:43:46 2007. Jesus, take the throttle? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:48:22 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:45:09 2007. Pull 20 pounds and PRAY that it stops before you run out of platform. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:49:34 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:48:22 2007. Would Jesus have to pee in a cup if he overshoots the platform? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 9 13:50:02 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:32:51 2007. Yes, at one time the Moe ran from Metropolitan Ave. to Coney Island via the Brighton line during daytime hours on weekdays. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 9 13:50:51 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:49:34 2007. He could just order the train to stop and it would. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:52:12 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:49:34 2007. Did Reuter leave yet? :) |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 13:56:32 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jan 9 13:50:02 2007. Yup, and that was back when I attended Murrow High School, which is at the Avenue M station of the Brighton Line. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jan 9 15:00:07 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. I'm getting a Red XBill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 15:05:47 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jan 9 15:00:07 2007. How's this?:
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jan 9 15:23:31 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 15:05:47 2007. Thanks, I wasn't seeing it either. Very nice!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Jan 9 16:08:28 2007, in response to A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 12:44:53 2007. NOPE. Ain't going to log in.Sorry. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 9 16:57:19 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 13:42:53 2007. The perpetual letter writing Brighton line riders would never accept them. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 17:19:28 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jan 9 16:57:19 2007. No R16's. No R46's. Hard to please, these Brighton line riders. |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:24:04 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Jan 9 15:05:47 2007. Most likely their only appearence ever on the Myrtle line, since I have not seen any other pictures of the fleet on that route. On BMT routes #14, #15 and #16, yes, but...no R-10's on #10!Yeah, I was on that Sunday, June 8, 1986 fantrip, as you may correctly expect... -William A. Padron ["Smith-9th St."] |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:32:11 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 12:56:07 2007. Correction...it is the Sunday, June 8, 1986 fantrip [#'s 3013-2966-3101-3136] if the train went up and down on the Myrtle line. The Sunday, October 29, 1989 fantrip [#3018-3203-3182-2974-3143-3045-3145-3216] went on Broadway Brooklyn and Jamaica Avenue out to Parsons/Archer.-William A. Padron ["B'klyn-Queens Lcl."] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 17:41:00 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:32:11 2007. I thought I saw 8 cars. Funny, it's a rather safe bet I was out railfanning on the eastern division that Sunday and I totally missed it. |
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Posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Jan 9 17:44:10 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:32:11 2007. William: When the R-10s operated on the Eastern Division in place of the R-16's they carried numbered rollsigns on the front bulkheads. Where these orginal or did they swap rollsigns with the R-16s?Thanks Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:56:59 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Jan 9 17:44:10 2007. The R-10's that went to the Eastern Division in 1954-55 had both their front and side roll signs as indeed original and as printed by the Hunter Illuminated Sign Company. Those new roll signs had the same BMT Division readings in the same format as that of the R-11's.-William A. Padron ["Queens-Forest Hills"] |
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Posted by RedbirdR33 on Tue Jan 9 18:09:36 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:56:59 2007. Thanks for the info.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 10 14:09:16 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:56:59 2007. So the signage put into R1's being used by the BMT in the early 50's was different? |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jan 10 16:55:13 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 10 14:09:16 2007. The R-1's that went to the BMT in the early 1950's had different signage installed, especially on the sides too. When the R-1's were tested in 1931 on the BMT Sea Beach line, their front route bulkhead sign were also different, and it was just a simple number like a big "4" in the style first seen on the D-Types.When the R-1/9's went to the Astoria line, their "new" BMT Division front roll signs were pretty much in the same format established by the Board of Transportation, with big number on top half and route on bottom, as say "2\Astoria" as an example. I am not sure at this point if the post-1949 signage that the R-1's had all of the BMT Division readings in terms of routes and terminals. On the other hand, the R-10's and R-11's were also and always be capable to have their roll signs removed and changed to correspond into what divisions and any and all of their routes they would operate on. The Hunter Illuminated Sign Company made full sets for each division and their routes, and in my personal archives, I myself have two R-10 side route signs that were originally printed by them that had just only but all of the BMT Division routes. The R-16's were a different story, though. At first, the cars placed in service in 1955 only had signage for the four Eastern Division lines #10, #14, #15 and #16. Later on, some additions on those rollsigns would eventually be (as I recall) made for the Southern Division routes #1 and #2 at least, and then for the "GG", "JJ", "QJ", "RJ" and "RR". Of course, all the R-16's in service around 1968-69 had all of their roll signs changed with the modern lettered stuff featuring the color-coded routes. As a footnote, when fifty R-16's were sent to the IND to help open the Rockaway line in 1956, their signage was changed as well to match with the IND Division. One will noticed that on the front bulkheads in a few early black & white photos that it is a different font, and the readings would say like "'A\8th Ave.', 'Wash. Hgts.\207th St.'". -William A. Padron ["Canarsie"] |
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Posted by RedbirdR33 on Wed Jan 10 17:55:44 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jan 10 16:55:13 2007. William: I have seen some picture of the R-1s when they were tested on the Sea Beach Line way back in the early 30's. They seem to suggest that simple cardboard signs where installed on the cars since they would only be running on one route, i.e #4 Sea Beach Express, 57 Street-Coney Island.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 08:23:32 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jan 9 12:56:07 2007. Nothing tops the 1966-68 racing stripe scheme on the R-10s. That was my favorite paint job of all time. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 08:24:15 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jan 9 17:24:04 2007. We could have guessed that.:) |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Jan 11 09:22:10 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jan 9 13:42:53 2007. Put that rumor to rest..when they tore down the old trolley barns down at Fresh Pond Rd they went several feet down ripping any track out, now theres still rail under the station itself just paved over or at least it was when I moved away in 1967, my friends and I practically lived in those barns until they were gone played there almost every day....I wish I had enough insight then to photograph those barns, no good photos exist of the whole building as far as I know. Karl M |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 11 12:25:55 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jan 10 16:55:13 2007. Thanks for clearing that up. I always wondered if the R1's running on the BMT in the early 1950's got full BMT signage, since they seemed to not run anywhere outside the 4th Ave/Astoria local. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 12:28:52 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jan 10 16:55:13 2007. Believe it or not, the sign boxes (and curtains) were easily pulled out of arnines by their original design. Can't tell you how many times I'd be merrily cranking away in the builkhead and have the box fall out on me. Thet were mounted on hooks and came RIGHT out. I imagine it would have been a very simple matter to swap them out for BMT service. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 12:38:55 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 12:28:52 2007. 1689 had an issue with one of its bulkhead destination signs, didn't it? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 13:39:19 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 12:38:55 2007. Ayup ... not to whine, but as I remember how they were built, those screw in and shouldn't come loose as easily as the one you saw. But those bolts would walk themselves out normally so it wasn't at all unusual for that to happen. That's why you try to hold the box while cranking them, just in case.I heard in their dying days, redbirds were like that too. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 16:01:43 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 13:39:19 2007. Actually, that particular sign on 1689 had a sticking crank handle. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 16:06:08 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 16:01:43 2007. Here's a G-2 and a bad order tag ... submit it to the guy over there. :) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jan 11 19:55:23 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Jan 11 16:06:08 2007. Who squirts some WD-40 on the gears. |
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