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Re: A Shot From The Past

Posted by William A. Padron on Wed Jan 10 16:55:13 2007, in response to Re: A Shot From The Past, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 10 14:09:16 2007.

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The R-1's that went to the BMT in the early 1950's had different signage installed, especially on the sides too. When the R-1's were tested in 1931 on the BMT Sea Beach line, their front route bulkhead sign were also different, and it was just a simple number like a big "4" in the style first seen on the D-Types.

When the R-1/9's went to the Astoria line, their "new" BMT Division front roll signs were pretty much in the same format established by the Board of Transportation, with big number on top half and route on bottom, as say "2\Astoria" as an example. I am not sure at this point if the post-1949 signage that the R-1's had all of the BMT Division readings in terms of routes and terminals.

On the other hand, the R-10's and R-11's were also and always be capable to have their roll signs removed and changed to correspond into what divisions and any and all of their routes they would operate on. The Hunter Illuminated Sign Company made full sets for each division and their routes, and in my personal archives, I myself have two R-10 side route signs that were originally printed by them that had just only but all of the BMT Division routes.

The R-16's were a different story, though. At first, the cars placed in service in 1955 only had signage for the four Eastern Division lines #10, #14, #15 and #16. Later on, some additions on those rollsigns would eventually be (as I recall) made for the Southern Division routes #1 and #2 at least, and then for the "GG", "JJ", "QJ", "RJ" and "RR". Of course, all the R-16's in service around 1968-69 had all of their roll signs changed with the modern lettered stuff featuring the color-coded routes.

As a footnote, when fifty R-16's were sent to the IND to help open the Rockaway line in 1956, their signage was changed as well to match with the IND Division. One will noticed that on the front bulkheads in a few early black & white photos that it is a different font, and the readings would say like "'A\8th Ave.', 'Wash. Hgts.\207th St.'".

-William A. Padron
["Canarsie"]


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